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Old 04-11-2013, 04:49 PM   #26
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If I change out the CAI intake, I don't think that I need to get a retune right? I know if I change out the pulley or the OD cog than I would have to get a retune.
I would retune if i added any more bolt ons to a FI car but thats just me. The shop should retune you for a big discount.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:52 PM   #27
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If I change out the CAI intake, I don't think that I need to get a retune right? I know if I change out the pulley or the OD cog than I would have to get a retune.
You will need to get it retuned with the new intake
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:02 PM   #28
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I believe it was a dynojet. Im not to caught up on the numbers, just want to know that i am getting the same hp with everything i got. Everything with the next modifications i get, it will help out. Thanks
It's a dynojet but I believe since they just moved into a new shop and got a new dyno it's a eddy current loaded version.
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my set on my L99... 582rwhp 521 tq

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Old 04-13-2013, 03:14 PM   #30
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Yeah i am thinking a Rotofab Cai with the adm scoop. Im not sure wether to get a smaller size pulley maybe a 3.6 or get the OD Cog drive. I just put on the 1:1 cog drive so i can here the whine, i dont think i want to take that out. But changing out the pulley would be just as good right? Plus i had 22s while i was on the dyno so i know that hurt my numbers as well. Thanks for your response
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It's a dynojet but I believe since they just moved into a new shop and got a new dyno it's a eddy current loaded version.
What does an eddy current version do?
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:47 PM   #32
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Not to cut in on the op post. But why the big difference on the dyno? 50HP is a lot.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:26 AM   #33
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Not to cut in on the op post. But why the big difference on the dyno? 50HP is a lot.
Dynos just perform differently. Some are just more conservative on bigger HP builds (Mustang). I ran a 663 on a Mustang & 716 on a Dynojet.
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There are a ton of things that can affect the output on the dyno. Temp, humidity, calibration on the dyno, where its setup on the rollers, the break hanging up on the wheel, operator error, the list goes on and on.

Like Kronix said, different dynos read much differently. As long as you are not going lean, I wouldn't worry about the numbers. I put down 622rwhp on one dyno in 108* heat and then did 658rwhp on a 73* day, on a different dyno with no changes being made to the car.

Do you have a copy of the graph? Was it choppy or smooth? What smoothing factor did they use? You could have had wheel spin on the dyno that gave you artificially low numbers too.


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Old 04-16-2013, 12:01 PM   #35
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i get 21mpg on the highway with 411 gears, if you are just getting 16 on the highway that dont seem right but if it was city/highway driving thats about right.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:09 PM   #36
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On the mustang dyno 587 and its a straight line 525tq 3500rpm and holds level. It was dyno twice bolt times was warm and humid. I know its running rich only 11.9 mpg. Wished I had the OP 16mpg.
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When you change intake or exhaust components you will need a tune. The effects of those components are magnified when running a supercharger. Your cars tune is fine. I'm sure Lethal did a great job on it. Those 22" wheels and stock air box are what's bringing down your numbers on the dyno. Enjoy the power increase, when you're ready for more add some components. Jannetty will retune if you buy from him. If you're concerned about tunes every time you make changes . That's the best deal going.
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This the dyno sheet I was given. It looks a little choppy now that I am noticing it

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There are a ton of things that can affect the output on the dyno. Temp, humidity, calibration on the dyno, where its setup on the rollers, the break hanging up on the wheel, operator error, the list goes on and on.

Like Kronix said, different dynos read much differently. As long as you are not going lean, I wouldn't worry about the numbers. I put down 622rwhp on one dyno in 108* heat and then did 658rwhp on a 73* day, on a different dyno with no changes being made to the car.

Do you have a copy of the graph? Was it choppy or smooth? What smoothing factor did they use? You could have had wheel spin on the dyno that gave you artificially low numbers too.


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This the dyno sheet I was given. It looks a little choppy now that I am noticing it
I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power.

Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while.

sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.
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why does the tq fall off is it because its a M6? Mine hits 525 at 3600 rpm and holds level throw the dyno
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:42 AM   #42
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QUOTE=driyac;6432877]I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power.

Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while.

sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.[/QUOTE]
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The torque "curve" looks bad. It could be bad gas or an issue somewhere else, but it does not look even remotely close to right.

It should look more like this.... This was done on the same type of dyno you were on with the same smoothing factor. Your graph shows more chop, because the scale is not as compressed, but the torque "curve" is way off.

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I am not a tune expert but all that choppyness is knock and knock kills power.

Those guys suck at tuning plain and simple. That is the ugliest graph ive seen in a while.

sucks man. get someone down there in texas to do a really good tune for you.
Should have gone to Pat G, or Lethal Racing, or ARD.
very good tuners.

yeh that graph looks terrible.
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Lethal racing in san Antonio did it
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This is mine on a mustang dyno. L99 & 4L80E trans
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One is before the 4l80e and the higher one after.
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That's strange OP if he did it.
That's really a messy graph.
And fairly low.
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Yeah, I heard some good things about them as well, but this visit with them was not good at all. They were changing shops and moving to another, I am guessing they rushed it or something. Im thinking about going to Houston and going to phasetek but that's a 3 1/2 hour drive.


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That's strange OP if he did it.
That's really a messy graph.
And fairly low.
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