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Old 03-28-2013, 10:18 PM   #1
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Anyone have a tune causr problems??

I have a Superchips tune on the way. I know it voids the warranty as long as they can prove it's a ditect result but Ive never tuned a car and curious if anyone has ever had one directly mess up their car?
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crap tunes will do crap things to your car. best to get it dyno and street tuned by a professional.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:34 PM   #3
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I have a Superchips tune on the way. I know it voids the warranty as long as they can prove it's a ditect result but Ive never tuned a car and curious if anyone has ever had one directly mess up their car?
They don't have to prove anything. If you're tuned, and they check your ECU, you're screwed.

If you're giving up your warranty, then make sure you know who who's taking care of you. Superchips... call their customer service line while you're waiting to tune and see how it goes. I don't know anything about them, but you need to make sure you're aware of everything that can happen if you go this route.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:48 PM   #4
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The only way I would spend money on a hand held tuner is if it has the ability to load a custom tune. Otherwise, IMO, it's a waste of money. I had a Superchips tuner for my 04 Silverado, and let's just say I was less than impressed. Went back to stock after a week and got a custom tune.
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The only way I would spend money on a hand held tuner is if it has the ability to load a custom tune.
that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

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that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

You'll notice a performance differance, but its not optimizing your vehicle through calibration.

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Thats a good way to put it.

Some people will claim it's the same by tons of experience. I had one, it was off alot.
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I got the tune for free so Im not out any money on it. I mainly want it to disable the AFM, and get a better throttle response. Simple stuff really. I dont race or drag it, not a daily driver. A weekend car I take to shows. Is it worth it?
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Free, great. Doesn't mean its good for your car.
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Thats a good way to put it.

Some people will claim it's the same by tons of experience. I had one, it was off alot.
Yep, its easy for tuners to make a generic (one size fits all) tune for different setups (an intake, or intake and headers, etc). The next step is to play the back and forth game until you get the tune right (or close enough to call it a day).

I always encourage people to get a dyno/street tune by a skilled professional. When you leave you have a car that's perfectly tuned exactly the way you want it.
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that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

You'll notice a performance differance, but its not optimizing your vehicle through calibration.

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So how would this compare to having JRE doing a handheld tune? Would that be considered a can/mail order tune? I was under the impression that JRE takes your stock tune and tweaks it and emails it back to you.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:28 AM   #11
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I got the tune for free so Im not out any money on it. I mainly want it to disable the AFM, and get a better throttle response. Simple stuff really. I dont race or drag it, not a daily driver. A weekend car I take to shows. Is it worth it?

You can get an afm delete that won't void your warranty =)
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Yep, its easy for tuners to make a generic (one size fits all) tune for different setups (an intake, or intake and headers, etc). The next step is to play the back and forth game until you get the tune right (or close enough to call it a day).

I always encourage people to get a dyno/street tune by a skilled professional. When you leave you have a car that's perfectly tuned exactly the way you want it.

I agree. Mine was tuned by a well known tuner on this board via handheld. My tune consisted of TM delete, CAGS delete, various codes for headers and for power, just the PE A/F was changed. Stock timing and everything else not changed. Car ran ok.
Took my own software out to scan about a month later, KR everywhere.

Had a local tuner do his tuning. Instantly felt alot better. I scanned it after, no KR and alot of table's changed. Car was just a lot smoother to drive.

So, I'm done with mail order or hand held stuff on GM's.
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I agree. Mine was tuned by a well known tuner on this board via handheld. My tune consisted of TM delete, CAGS delete, various codes for headers and for power, just the PE A/F was changed. Stock timing and everything else not changed. Car ran ok.
Took my own software out to scan about a month later, KR everywhere.

Had a local tuner do his tuning. Instantly felt alot better. I scanned it after, no KR and alot of table's changed. Car was just a lot smoother to drive.

So, I'm done with mail order or hand held stuff on GM's.

I often get P.M.s from guys that feel the same way (swithed from popular hand held tunes to dyno/street tunes done locally). This information is rarely posted because of the popularity of some of these tunes.
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I wouldn't touch a hand held tuning device myself. I've used HP Tuners and I know how many parameters there are within the software. Personally I've only done some minor tweaks to my car with HPT and after I installed my whipple it was time for a real pro who knows these cars in and out to get my tune spot on.
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So how would this compare to having JRE doing a handheld tune? Would that be considered a can/mail order tune? I was under the impression that JRE takes your stock tune and tweaks it and emails it back to you.
I'm curious as well...

Also, what can I expect to pay to get it tuned on a dyno?
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Yeah I don't know much about cars. I put headers, CIA, and flowmasters. I bought a Diablo i1000 and didn't know what to do with it. Took it to a professional and what a difference! 385whp 400tq
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I'm curious as well...

Also, what can I expect to pay to get it tuned on a dyno?
I'm curious as to the cost of that as well…even if its just a ball park figure.
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The Answer is Absolutely Not, Every tune I write is Fully custom for your specific Mods.

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I have a Superchips tune on the way. I know it voids the warranty as long as they can prove it's a ditect result but Ive never tuned a car and curious if anyone has ever had one directly mess up their car?
Don't let these guys get you all worked up, for what you want out of it you will be fine.

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The Answer is Absolutely Not, Every tune I write is Fully custom for your specific Mods.

You Log I tune the end result is Nothing Short of Amazing.


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The Answer is Absolutely Not, Every tune I write is Fully custom for your specific Mods.

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4-600.00 on average.
Thanks for the response Ted. I can hardly wait to get mine installed. I received my iTSX from you Friday and attempted to down load the Stock Tune from my car but I got a message on the program telling me to download an upgrade. I tried to download the upgrade on my son's Dell but had problems installing the drivers. Well, it was the Easter weekend and had to wait until today to contact customer service. I called from work so I didn't have my son's computer there to allow them to manually install the drives for me. I have to wait until the morning to get the issue ironed out. I'll keep you posted.
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what can I expect to pay to get it tuned on a dyno?
I charge:

For stock to bolt ons modifications, I charge $390.00 to dyno tune.

For Internal modifications (cam), I charge $450.00 to dyno tune

For Forced Induction, I charge $500.00-$600.00 to dyno tune depending on the operating system and additional supporting mods
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For stock to bolt ons modifications, I charge $390.00 to dyno tune.

For Internal modifications (cam), I charge $450.00 to dyno tune

For Forced Induction, I charge $500.00-$600.00 to dyno tune depending on the operating system and additional supporting mods
Wow! I thought it would be much more than that. Thanks!
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I'm curious as to the cost of that as well…even if its just a ball park figure.
Anywhere from $250-$600 depending on your location and modifications. I had a customer come in yesterday that got taken for a ride by another shop, they charged him $699 and only seven tables were changed for a cammed car dyno tune. Don't think that just because someone sells you a dyno tune that it is better, WHO is doing the tune is what counts. I could have tuned that car better remotely while sitting at my desk than the job that shop did in person.

Long story short we started over, made an additional 25rwhp and the car drove absolutely amazing when it left (unlike the huckle buckle it was doing when it came in).
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At our recent dyno day, we had a couple cars that hand held unit tunes uploaded to them. All I could say to the owner was my scanner doesn't lie and neither does the dyno.

One of them had 4-6 degrees of knock while rich, and another one was an
" experimental " tune on a ZL1 with a pulley exchange and his AFR was in the low to mid 10's, little knock, and 117% duty cycle. Thank god he won a free tune from me to save the ZL1.


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