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Old 05-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #137
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Also I think taking off 400lbs is going to be a very difficult task. I remember reading someone that had a dedicated stripped down 5th gen and it weighed in at 3500 wet. Regardless, very interested in seeing the results.
So far from what both Nathan and Justin have done I think they will be able to reach their goal.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:48 AM   #138
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Mine isn't stripped at all; it still has the full stock interior and I'm at 3688 with a full tank. Nathan is easily taking out enough weight to be near or at 3,400 lbs. The problem is when you start adding the systems you need for a dedicated track car, like the roll cage, trans oil cooler, diff oil cooler, etc. and the extra associated fluids and support pieces. Those of course add weight back but still, even with that I think he can achieve 3,400 lbs.

I received a reply from Jim at Optic Armor:

"We do not have the weights on the sides and qtrs at this time however our front 3/16” window weighs 11lbs and the rear window weighs 6lbs which is a net savings of approx 27 lbs. If you did do all the windows you would easily see a 50lbs reduction in weight. As for rolling them up and down they will withstand the motion of such however you will need someone who is experienced with polycarbonate windows to install them due to some minor issues with installing side windows in a door that does not have a full frame. Let me know if you have any additional questions, thanks again!"

I'm guessing the door glass has to be about the same weight as the rear window. Quarters probably don't weigh all that much. So it looks like front and sides should be about 50 lbs of weight reduction. And that's staying with the same thickness as the factory glass which is 3/16". If you wanted to go down to 1/8" on the sides you could probably save another few pounds but then you have slight fitment issues with gaps and seals. Keeping the factory rear window which has the rear defogger grid and radio antenna in it would only be a difference of about 9 lbs which is more than acceptable on a car that's not totally dedicated to track use. Plus that's 9 lbs in the back which is already lighter than the front, so pulling 50 lbs out of the front/middle helps to slightly move the weight balance for the car towards 50/50 which is ideal. And that's removing 50 lbs way up above the roll center which helps lower that and lessen body roll.

Going by their price list online it would be $940 plus shipping to do front and sides. Hmmm....... decisions decisions....
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Mine isn't stripped at all; it still has the full stock interior and I'm at 3688 with a full tank. Nathan is easily taking out enough weight to be near or at 3,400 lbs. The problem is when you start adding the systems you need for a dedicated track car, like the roll cage, trans oil cooler, diff oil cooler, etc. and the extra associated fluids and support pieces. Those of course add weight back but still, even with that I think he can achieve 3,400 lbs.

I received a reply from Jim at Optic Armor:

"We do not have the weights on the sides and qtrs at this time however our front 3/16” window weighs 11lbs and the rear window weighs 6lbs which is a net savings of approx 27 lbs. If you did do all the windows you would easily see a 50lbs reduction in weight. As for rolling them up and down they will withstand the motion of such however you will need someone who is experienced with polycarbonate windows to install them due to some minor issues with installing side windows in a door that does not have a full frame. Let me know if you have any additional questions, thanks again!"

I'm guessing the door glass has to be about the same weight as the rear window. Quarters probably don't weigh all that much. So it looks like front and sides should be about 50 lbs of weight reduction. And that's staying with the same thickness as the factory glass which is 3/16". If you wanted to go down to 1/8" on the sides you could probably save another few pounds but then you have slight fitment issues with gaps and seals. Keeping the factory rear window which has the rear defogger grid and radio antenna in it would only be a difference of about 9 lbs which is more than acceptable on a car that's not totally dedicated to track use. Plus that's 9 lbs in the back which is already lighter than the front, so pulling 50 lbs out of the front/middle helps to slightly move the weight balance for the car towards 50/50 which is ideal. And that's removing 50 lbs way up above the roll center which helps lower that and lessen body roll.

Going by their price list online it would be $940 plus shipping to do front and sides. Hmmm....... decisions decisions....
Do you know if they'll give a discount if we get a group buy together? I mean 10% off would still be about $100.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:04 AM   #140
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Do you know if they'll give a discount if we get a group buy together? I mean 10% off would still be about $100.
AS long as the windshield will work with HUD
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:24 AM   #141
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SSMickey, I think we found a solution for the air bag deal. It will be a little while before we can confirm, LOL.

In our quest to improve the cars handling, one of the area of weight reduction was the seats. We have decided to go with the Cobra Misano Anniversary edition. They weigh only 24 lbs each and are consistent with the build level that we are shooting for. I fell in love with these seats when I first saw them at SEMA a few years ago. The seats will be coming from England, and we are working with Cobra on the idea of embroidering the G5.R logo on the seats (See pic below)

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Hoping to have the car back as a roller in the next week as we are going to be building a roll cage for it.




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I'm seriously diggin those seats. I bet thats worth a few pounds for sure!

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That I don't know about.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:08 PM   #143
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Do you know if they'll give a discount if we get a group buy together? I mean 10% off would still be about $100.
We'd have to inquire.

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AS long as the windshield will work with HUD
I don't see why it wouldn't; there's nothing special about the windshield on models with HUD as far as I know.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:13 PM   #144
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I don't see why it wouldn't; there's nothing special about the windshield on models with HUD as far as I know.
Theres a special coating in that area that helps with clarity. Corvette and camaro people have been doing the swap without the different windshield with no ill effects. There might be some glare situations with reduced visibility.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:19 PM   #145
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I don't see why it wouldn't; there's nothing special about the windshield on models with HUD as far as I know.
There is an anti reflective property to the windshield. Or something like that. It makes the HUD show clear. There gave been multiple instances on here of people having broken windshields and then receiving the non HUD ones and them being blurry
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:20 PM   #146
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I thought it was the Hankook formula drift car but Im not 100% sure.
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I thought it was the Hankook formula drift car but Im not 100% sure.
I was wrong about it being Doc anyway though - but I know another member just posted his truck weigh-in station slip. Showed like 3405 or something - still full interior.

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Considering I added a/c back to the car for the hot GA summer, can't say I'm not satisfied. Car has a rollbar, deep TCI pan and metal hi-ram intake all adding weight, too. Some records going to be broken once it cools off. Roughly half tank of E85 in the car.






No, I'm not going to list out the reduction (it would take too long anyway). Yes, the car still has a full interior, stereo, and air conditioning.
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AS long as the windshield will work with HUD
Hey guys sorry for the late respond on this question as Jim had e-mail me the answer last week. (See below)

"Yes it does work it, however because our windows are so clear the HUD reflection will not be as bright."

RJ it would hurt to ask Jim about a group buy discount. Perhaps you can call him and see what he would be willing to do for Camaro5 members and if possible, make a check interest thread. I guessing if there's enough interest, he might become a sponsor of the site.

As far as update, I am really back up! Hoping to get the engine bay completed and ready for paint this weekend! This is contingent on my friend who is helping us with the body work can make it over. If he can't, we going the assemble the front and rear cradle and make the car a roller so that we can start on the roll cage.


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Do you know if they'll give a discount if we get a group buy together? I mean 10% off would still be about $100.
Just got a reply back from Jim and he said yes. If we can put together a group buy for at least 10 windows they'll give us a 10% discount. I wonder how many are actually interested?
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....RJ it wouldn't hurt to ask Jim about a group buy discount. Perhaps you can call him and see what he would be willing to do for Camaro5 members and if possible, make a check interest thread. I guessing if there's enough interest, he might become a sponsor of the site.
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So what section of the forum would we post a group-buy thread for Optic Armor windows?
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So what section of the forum would we post a group-buy thread for Optic Armor windows?
hahaha - cosmetic mods maybe? I can't really think of a subforum that "windows" fits under
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hahaha - cosmetic mods maybe? I can't really think of a subforum that "windows" fits under
Hahaha, Idk, its more performance related, id put it in bolt ons if there was one for all engines. But cosmetics is good too i guess.
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