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Old 03-29-2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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Z/28 Radio -- None or single speaker?

As the title states, I am curious what we know. Initially I read the press release as 'no radio' since they were trying to save weight, but I know they kept the single speaker for the door chime (is this the one by the key, or does it come out of the central dash speaker?).

The pictures seem to depict a 2010-2012 style radio w/ CD. This would suggest to me that the car might have a single speaker. While a small issue and certainly the least important in my mind as it relates to the performance of the car, I'm curious. If no radio, what will they put in its place?
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It does have a single speaker for the door chime. I'm guessing it has a radio for the bluetooth, phone and onstar capability.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:00 PM   #3
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:11 PM   #4
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I read somewhere that the speaker is in the driver's door.

From the pictures I've seen it looks like it still has a radio and the grills are still in the passenger door, rear, and center dash. I'm thinking it shouldn't be too difficult for people to install more speakers if they want to.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:35 PM   #5
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I read somewhere that the speaker is in the driver's door.

From the pictures I've seen it looks like it still has a radio and the grills are still in the passenger door, rear, and center dash. I'm thinking it shouldn't be too difficult for people to install more speakers if they want to.
Unless the wiring is gone for weight savings.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:58 PM   #6
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Unless the wiring is gone for weight savings.
According to GM, they did delete all the unnecessary wiring for weight, but I still don't think it would be too tough.....maybe not plug & play, but still doable. I'd rather splice & run wires from a donor stereo connector than have to figure out where to cut & mount speakers any day.
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My guess is pics with radio are showing the "optional" radio,which can be ordered; similar to the idea that AC is optional, but can be ordered......
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My guess is pics with radio are showing the "optional" radio,which can be ordered; similar to the idea that AC is optional, but can be ordered......
I'd want a radio ..... even if it is just for the track, listening to some tunes is a good way to clear your head before (and after!) going out on the track . And obviously, driving to/from the track, you gotta have driving music going!!!
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:27 PM   #10
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Many of the controls and alarms are set through the radio. So I think you get the base radio CD player but it only comes with one speaker for the chimes turn signal clicks ect....
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Many of the controls and alarms are set through the radio. So I think you get the base radio CD player but it only comes with one speaker for the chimes turn signal clicks ect....
This ^^^ makes the most sense. I do wish they would have clarified, though.
A radio with one speaker (it's not a bad one, at that) would be 100x better than no radio at all.
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Thanks! I missed that one.
I guess that's that, then. Radio with one speaker.
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If I bought this car, I would remove the speaker and radio, and just fabricate a lightweight plastic or fiberglass filler panel, remove the radio, and install the panel as filler over it (painted either black or dark grey).

This car is for track purposes. So you don't need to hear the seatbelt chime, headlight reminder chime, door ajar chime, or turn signal click. You don't need music since the sound of the engine is all you want to hear anyway. Sure the feds mandate that it be there at production, but once you take possession there's nothing that says you can't take that stuff out. And it's not like you're taking this car on any long vacation trips, so you really don't need any of the modern conveniences. If you do aspire to take this car on a long drive, you're missing the point of it's existence, and I can name at least 4 cars in what will probably be the Z/28 price range that are fantastic, upscale cars that you can enjoy long distance drives in.
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If I bought this car, I would remove the speaker and radio, and just fabricate a lightweight plastic or fiberglass filler panel, remove the radio, and install the panel as filler over it (painted either black or dark grey).

This car is for track purposes. So you don't need to hear the seatbelt chime, headlight reminder chime, door ajar chime, or turn signal click. You don't need music since the sound of the engine is all you want to hear anyway. Sure the feds mandate that it be there at production, but once you take possession there's nothing that says you can't take that stuff out. And it's not like you're taking this car on any long vacation trips, so you really don't need any of the modern conveniences. If you do aspire to take this car on a long drive, you're missing the point of it's existence, and I can name at least 4 cars in what will probably be the Z/28 price range that are fantastic, upscale cars that you can enjoy long distance drives in.
Unless its a Camaro, not interested...
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The ZL1 comes to mind... only it's less expensive.
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If I bought this car, I would remove the speaker and radio, and just fabricate a lightweight plastic or fiberglass filler panel, remove the radio, and install the panel as filler over it (painted either black or dark grey).

This car is for track purposes. So you don't need to hear the seatbelt chime, headlight reminder chime, door ajar chime, or turn signal click.
Instead of the filler panel how about an AiM Solo lap timer? I need that way more than I'll ever need a radio in this car. And radios chassis are heavy 5-8 lbs. How do we separate the radio from the climate controls though? Looks integrated on the panel? Seeing as how I am spec'ing A/C delete all I need is a heater control

A great project for an aftermarket supplier to engineer a solution for this.
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Instead of the filler panel how about an AiM Solo lap timer? I need that way more than I'll ever need a radio in this car. And radios chassis are heavy 5-8 lbs. How do we separate the radio from the climate controls though? Looks integrated on the panel? Seeing as how I am spec'ing A/C delete all I need is a heater control

A great project for an aftermarket supplier to engineer a solution for this.
The outside panel of the HVAC and radio are integrated, but the internal components are separate units. When you take them out, just cut the front panel in half to separate everything.
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Unless its a Camaro, not interested...
Then buy an SS, 1LE, or ZL1 and save a few bucks.

You want creature comforts, I get that. If you're going to spend Z/28 money, either you don't want creature comforts at all, or you want another completely different car.
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The outside panel of the HVAC and radio are integrated, but the internal components are separate units. When you take them out, just cut the front panel in half to separate everything.
Awesome, thanks for the info
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Awesome, thanks for the info
After thinking about it, you really can't cut the front bezel in half because the illumination of all the lights on the radio and HVAC are all interconnected, and the HVAC dials are too darn close to the radio controls to have a clean line to cut through......

BUT....

You can still remove the CD player and tuner module. The plastic bezel is just a keypad and the climate controls are all electronic, no mechanism or box inside. The bezel less than a quarter inch thick, and it weighs very little. The HVAC controls are part of the whole bezel, but the radio and CD player are not. Therefore, you can remove the bezel, take out the tuner module and CD player, and replace the front bezel.

Just make sure you don't try to accidentally put a CD through the slot, it will get stuck behind your dashboard now!

You could just tape off the CD slot from the inside while you have the bezel off.

But I definitely like your idea, that someone like Scotshe or DEI should come up with an aftermarket bezel that gives you the HVAC while just a black filler panel for the radio. They make custom trim bezels for all aftermarket head units right now anyway.
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But I definitely like your idea, that someone like Scotshe or DEI should come up with an aftermarket bezel that gives you the HVAC while just a black filler panel for the radio. They make custom trim bezels for all aftermarket head units right now anyway.
Or a trim bezel with compartment to fit in a Video VBox Lite box
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If I bought this car, I would remove the speaker and radio, and just fabricate a lightweight plastic or fiberglass filler panel, remove the radio, and install the panel as filler over it (painted either black or dark grey).

This car is for track purposes. So you don't need to hear the seatbelt chime, headlight reminder chime, door ajar chime, or turn signal click. You don't need music since the sound of the engine is all you want to hear anyway. Sure the feds mandate that it be there at production, but once you take possession there's nothing that says you can't take that stuff out. And it's not like you're taking this car on any long vacation trips, so you really don't need any of the modern conveniences. If you do aspire to take this car on a long drive, you're missing the point of it's existence, and I can name at least 4 cars in what will probably be the Z/28 price range that are fantastic, upscale cars that you can enjoy long distance drives in.
It likely won't function. Because so many functions are electronically controlled through the radio...you can't just ditch the radio without adjusting the ECM so it won't freak out when it doesn't see the BCM is connected anymore...at least, not easily...
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After thinking about it, you really can't cut the front bezel in half because the illumination of all the lights on the radio and HVAC are all interconnected, and the HVAC dials are too darn close to the radio controls to have a clean line to cut through......

BUT....

You can still remove the CD player and tuner module. The plastic bezel is just a keypad and the climate controls are all electronic, no mechanism or box inside. The bezel less than a quarter inch thick, and it weighs very little. The HVAC controls are part of the whole bezel, but the radio and CD player are not. Therefore, you can remove the bezel, take out the tuner module and CD player, and replace the front bezel.

Just make sure you don't try to accidentally put a CD through the slot, it will get stuck behind your dashboard now!

You could just tape off the CD slot from the inside while you have the bezel off.

But I definitely like your idea, that someone like Scotshe or DEI should come up with an aftermarket bezel that gives you the HVAC while just a black filler panel for the radio. They make custom trim bezels for all aftermarket head units right now anyway.
You could also install the Metra kit and just not install a stereo. You could fab a plate to insert in the double din and fill it with the gauges of your choice.
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