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Old 03-31-2013, 09:27 PM   #1
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Transmission problem...

Had a few days of warm weather and finally get to get it out and get on it a little. I have a track day coming up at mid Ohio on the 13th-14th and wanted to practice banging gears seeing how i haven't had much seat time after break in (only 1800 mile on it) Since day one of owning this car I have felt that when shifting fast its hard to to go from 2nd to 3rd.(seems like I always hit the gate area between 1st and 2nd). Also Sometimes It would go in second kinda hard. (like notchy) Well today it started grinding when shifting in to 5th. With the track day coming up I think i may just run it like this and have the dealer look at it after....

but what do you guys all think. Anyone else have any of these problems?

Also have a note worthy clunk when you transition from on to off gas or off to on gas at low speeds in first or second.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:54 PM   #2
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Had the same trouble at the drag strip
Wouldn't go n 3rd at high rpm
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:00 PM   #3
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what did you do to fix it?
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:02 PM   #4
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May put a clutch resivour in
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:19 PM   #5
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have an appointment with the dealer on Thursday... not looking forward to them ripping the tranny out of my brand new car. Hope they will have it done before my track day i already paid for on the 13th!
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:27 PM   #6
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dealer called today stated g/m is shipping them a hole new trans. G/m wants mine back in one piece to find out what failed. They didn't even want the dealer to open it up and look.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:41 AM   #7
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I've had the same trouble with third at high rpms. Ground the gears a couple times because it wouldn't go in and I was off the clutch too fast. Let us know of you hear anything back...I'm interested, but not sure I want a tranny replaced.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:53 AM   #8
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Mine does it first to second when ever i try the no lift shift. But not second to.third.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:45 AM   #9
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Mine does it first to second when ever i try the no lift shift. But not second to.third.
I have noticed a problem on the 1-2 shift during regular easy shifts
at low RPM's (under 1500 RPM)

This has occurred at least 25 times and the car only has 1000 easy miles
on it.

I'm gonna have the dearler adjust the shift linkage when I hit the
1500 mile break in period.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:08 AM   #10
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I use to have all these same problems on my SS, I had to teach myself not to try and force the gears. Go easy with the shifts, and they will go in like butter. These trans are notchy, but that's just the way they are.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #11
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I forget which one but one of the mags that did a review on the ZL-1 commented on a similar experience with trouble shifting vigoriously so apparently its not an isolated incident and something in there could use a bit of improvment. Hopefully the aftermarket will address it in the near future. Good luck with the new trans and on the track
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:50 PM   #12
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I wont get my car back until this Thursday... And I am racing at Mid Ohio on sat and Sunday.. So i will def be-able to compare the new trans with the old. Maybe there is a batch of bad transmissions and their is hope for everyone with this problem
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:57 PM   #13
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I have noticed a problem on the 1-2 shift during regular easy shifts
at low RPM's (under 1500 RPM)

This has occurred at least 25 times and the car only has 1000 easy miles
on it.

I'm gonna have the dearler adjust the shift linkage when I hit the
1500 mile break in period.
This is the only thing I have noticed. I believe it is when you sre close to the skip shift range. I just go up to about 2k RPM and it seems to eliminate this. I have never had any issues with 3rd.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:17 PM   #14
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does anyone know is their a proper way to use the no lift shift when drag racing? I mean i would just clutch at 6000-6200rpm grab the next gear with out lifting the gas and drop the clutch. Is this wrong?? i tried it in all the PTM settings. Seemed that traction control would interfear in the lower settings. I found it seemed to work best with all nannies turned off. But when trying to do this seemed to cause me to most missed gears. Long story short I was more consistent with out it. (no missed gears)
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:41 PM   #15
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don't believe the ZL1 has skip shift.
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don't believe the ZL1 has skip shift.
Sure it does.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217448
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:03 PM   #17
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Well I'll be damned, i thought for sure they didn't have that on the ZL1. Looks like I have two choices, eliminate it, or just make sure I accelerate over 21% throttle.
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Well I'll be damned, i thought for sure they didn't have that on the ZL1. Looks like I have two choices, eliminate it, or just make sure I accelerate over 21% throttle.
I hardly ever notice it. I had the same in my 01 Trans Am, just mash it in first and no problem lol.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:45 PM   #19
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I try to shift with minimal force and let the gear pull the shifter in, so to speak. Still trying to master the no lift shift function. Gotta admit it gives me the willies, but when you do it right its VERY rewarding.

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Old 04-07-2013, 08:07 AM   #20
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Just a thought, when taking off "slow" sometimes I would just use the top gears (Shift from 1st to 3rd to 5th then 6th. ) I found it saves fuel and wasn't as (luggy) as the shift from 1st to 4th. (skip shift) Does anyone think shifting in this manner was damaging to the trans?
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Just a thought, when taking off "slow" sometimes I would just use the top gears (Shift from 1st to 3rd to 5th then 6th. ) I found it saves fuel and wasn't as (luggy) as the shift from 1st to 4th. (skip shift) Does anyone think shifting in this manner was damaging to the trans?
Just don't force it into 3rd, rev it up just a hair to get out of the skip range then go to 3rd.
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I use to have all these same problems on my SS, I had to teach myself not to try and force the gears. Go easy with the shifts, and they will go in like butter. These trans are notchy, but that's just the way they are.
I think this was my problem. Took a trip through a few curvy backroads today and tried to be gentle and it was working great for me. I thought she was the type that wanted to be man handled...wrong again!
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:11 PM   #23
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Ok, Got her back. This trans shifts like butter compared to my old one. I put 100 miles on it and the 2nd to 3rd shift is Much improved. I did try no lift shift one time from 1st-2nd-3rd. and it went is all gears very well. I did make it grind once shifting from first to second when tryng to do a quick shift but i think it was my fault. (droped the clutch before i got it in gear) I really couldnt be happier so far with the new trans. My first one never shifted this smooth.
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Also have a note worthy clunk when you transition from on to off gas or off to on gas at low speeds in first or second.
I'm pretty sure this is normal, I've also noticed the same on mine. you just gotta stay on the gas or shift to a lower gear. after getting to know my car better i know how to prevent it.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:25 PM   #25
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I'm pretty sure this is normal, I've also noticed the same on mine. you just gotta stay on the gas or shift to a lower gear. after getting to know my car better i know how to prevent it.
yeah my dealer said this was normal also. I really have to try hard to make it clunk so i'm not worried about it.

My first track day at mid Ohio went very well no missed gears. I do see how it could be very easy to miss second as I have to wait for it to fall in to place a sec. But still much smoother than my first trans!!!
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