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Old 11-04-2013, 04:58 PM   #1
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I just had the top replaced on my 2012 Camaro and need some assistance from 2013 Camaro convertible owners.
My top does not seem to go down nearly as far as the old top. I don't even think the tonneau will even fit. Since they replaced my top with the 2013 frame and fabric I would like pictures of some 2013 convertible tops showing how low they sit when down. The Side arms and right behind the seat. At least I can then show the top shop how it should fold down.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #2
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Yo, Mr. Angrybird 12,

Would it not be better to cruise down to the dealer and compare & contrast with any 2013's or even 2014's.

Good luck, please keep us posted.

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Old 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM   #3
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Yo, Mr. Angrybird 12,

Would it not be better to cruise down to the dealer and compare & contrast with any 2013's or even 2014's.

Good luck, please keep us posted.

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I did that but they would only let me see one of them. I didn't think at that time to take any pictures. I kept telling them mine does not go down that far.... The top shop is not at the dealership so the people that are working on mine cannot compair them directly.
They told me to give it a couple weeks to let it settle and the material stretch. It's been 5 days now and no change other than its easier to latch.
I figured if I can show them pictures of other peoples 13's I would have an easier time convincing them.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:36 PM   #4
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:40 PM   #5
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Here's a pic of mine....
Do you have to push yours down to get it that low? Unless I push it down after lowering the top sits two inches higher then the plastic trim of the back seat and the two side arms stick up higher than the plastic trim. If I push them down the top will be almost flush and the side arms still stick up higher than yours.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:12 PM   #6
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I guess I am just being paranoid after reading all the horror stories. I guess since mine is not flooding the car, we have already went through one all night rainstorm since I got it back, it's not too bad.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:20 PM   #7
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The " side arms" stick up just alittle bit after I put the top down. I gently push them down alittle before I install my tonneau cover. I thought about bringing up to the dealer and ask if this is normal, but I haven't goten around to it yet.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:22 PM   #8
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Great feedback, it's starting to ease my fears somewhat, thanks.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:25 PM   #9
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angrybird. i can PM or email a pic of mine. its a new 13 2LT vert. but, my top goes down, and i put tonneau cover on and thats it. i dont push or tug at anything. i dont think you should have to push anything. everything should be folded down and all you do is put the tonneau on and be done. now, my top latches kind of hard but i think its just knowing how to do it correctly, i have only had it 3 weeks. but, it goes down and no pushing or shoving.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:35 PM   #10
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I have to slightly push mine down about 2 inches after the car says it is down not any resistance when I do and no binding. I have no trouble fitting the tonneau cover, it fits fine. Top fits tight also when I latch it. I would rather that than it flop around in the wind.
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Here is a pic of mine. You can see the arms are up slightly. I push them down once in awhile and definitely if I am going to put on the tonneau. No problems with the operation and fit with the tonneau. I do notice that one of my bungees for the tonneau is close to fraying in half and this is the new design.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:45 PM   #12
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angrybird. i can PM or email a pic of mine. its a new 13 2LT vert. but, my top goes down, and i put tonneau cover on and thats it. i dont push or tug at anything. i dont think you should have to push anything. everything should be folded down and all you do is put the tonneau on and be done. now, my top latches kind of hard but i think its just knowing how to do it correctly, i have only had it 3 weeks. but, it goes down and no pushing or shoving.
Isn't the one you bought one that has sat on the dealer lot for almost a year? I guess it has had plenty is stretching and settling time.
All these posts are making me feel better. I have been thinking that maybe that is how they are reducing the rub marks and wrinkles by not folding the top as far down as the earlier cars. I know my other top went way down on its own and the side arms were a lot lower.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #13
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My convertible is a little over a year old. The top pulls down flush with the car, but the arms stick up a bit. A gentle push will tuck them in flush.

Have you looked at the space the top folds into in the trunk? Maybe an obstruction in the bag or adjustment needed?
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:00 PM   #14
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My convertible is a little over a year old. The top pulls down flush with the car, but the arms stick up a bit. A gentle push will tuck them in flush.

Have you looked at the space the top folds into in the trunk? Maybe an obstruction in the bag or adjustment needed?
No no obstructions but it still has the old style water management bag. It may not be as big as the 13 style.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:10 PM   #15
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The " side arms" stick up just alittle bit after I put the top down. I gently push them down alittle before I install my tonneau cover. I thought about bringing up to the dealer and ask if this is normal, but I haven't goten around to it yet.
I would get you pics but it's around 40 degrees out now and dark, but that sounds normal.
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Here is a pic of mine. You can see the arms are up slightly. I push them down once in awhile and definitely if I am going to put on the tonneau. No problems with the operation and fit with the tonneau. I do notice that one of my bungees for the tonneau is close to fraying in half and this is the new design.
Never used my tonneau cover, just took it out last week and read the instructions to figure it out. Then I realized the dlr. didn't install the plastic "buttons" that the bungee cords on each side are to attach to. So I am debating taking it back or trying to figure it out myself.

Anyways, mine tonneau has never been used and both bungee loops are half cut on mine........why? Maybe to relieve stress but when I first saw it, it was like WTF?
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angrybird, yes, my car was built a year ago, but was new when i got it. but, i just dont think a person should have to push or pull anything to put the toneau on. that just dont seem right, but i may be wrong. if i had to do that each time, i would have it checked out. these are expensive cars, just seems odd to have to push arms down some to get tonneau on. NOT, i made sure my tonneau bungee screws wee attached. they look like metal hooks. i do not attach the bungee cords unless i am going to do extended freeway driving 70 mph, etc. for just buzzin around town at 25 to 45 mph, the tonneau stays down ok.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:23 PM   #18
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Never used my tonneau cover, just took it out last week and read the instructions to figure it out. Then I realized the dlr. didn't install the plastic "buttons" that the bungee cords on each side are to attach to. So I am debating taking it back or trying to figure it out myself.

Anyways, mine tonneau has never been used and both bungee loops are half cut on mine........why? Maybe to relieve stress but when I first saw it, it was like WTF?
I use my tonneau anytime I am either going to have the top down for several hours or on the highway, just around town or for just a short while I don't bother putting it on. I have probably used it 70 times in the last year and 4 months and my bungee cords still look like new.

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angrybird, yes, my car was built a year ago, but was new when i got it. but, i just dont think a person should have to push or pull anything to put the toneau on. that just dont seem right, but i may be wrong. if i had to do that each time, i would have it checked out. these are expensive cars, just seems odd to have to push arms down some to get tonneau on. NOT, i made sure my tonneau bungee screws wee attached. they look like metal hooks. i do not attach the bungee cords unless i am going to do extended freeway driving 70 mph, etc. for just buzzin around town at 25 to 45 mph, the tonneau stays down ok.
Thanks, Kevin, are you enjoying yours as much as you thought you would?
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Never used my tonneau cover, just took it out last week and read the instructions to figure it out. Then I realized the dlr. didn't install the plastic "buttons" that the bungee cords on each side are to attach to. So I am debating taking it back or trying to figure it out myself.

Anyways, mine tonneau has never been used and both bungee loops are half cut on mine........why? Maybe to relieve stress but when I first saw it, it was like WTF?
As for the buttons, if it isn't a hassle I would ask the dealer to install them, for free of course. Otherwise I think they just plug or screw in. Mine were already installed. That's interesting about your new bungee cords that look half cut. I have to check my other one now. Doesn't look right to me. I'll have to take a pic and compare notes with other members.
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Angrybird,
I have a 2011, had the top replaced this year.Some things I have noticed are:

when top is down,
side arms are at a bit of an angle now.
top sits almost flush with rear seatback plastic molding.
top is far away from the rear deck(by the trunk), so no chance of rubbing.
I also find it much harder to latch than the original.
Tonneau cover fits but it is more snug but doesn't seem to be an issue.

and the most positive thing=no leaks!!!(knock on wood)
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angrybird, yes its fun, but just driving it on weekends so far, has about 270 miles on it. will be DD in a month or so, still driving my old Firebird. the weather now is changing so top not going down much anymore, but i love the car. just the fact its new and handles so much nicer. i hesitant to drive it much till i get catch can. and i wont drive it in snow or ice. but after driving a 16 yr old car with basically no shocks and handling not great, the camaro is very nice.
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Here is how my old top looked when it was down I never had to push down on anything. Notice the arm on the outside is just barely visible. So you can see why I was so concerned when my new top does not come close to being like this.
I'll take a picture of my new one later after it warms up today.
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Here it is after pushing down on it, the arms are still way too high in my opinion.
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