Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Cold Air Inductions
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Regional Forums > Canada

Canada Leafs

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-03-2013, 02:02 PM   #1
Caswell239

 
Caswell239's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2ss/rs
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,135
The joys of being Canadian

Don't get me wrong i love being Canadian. BUT!!! I ordered a blower package from Jannetty racing, came in four boxes. No duty or brokerage at the door, but just got 4 invoices for them. Total of 715$ Canadian in duty and brokerage! I already paid a lot for shipping in the first place! Man we get raped hard for parts crossing the boarder!!!

/endrant


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Caswell239 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 02:07 PM   #2
RickRay
INJACC
 
RickRay's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 CGM 2LT/RS AUTO
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Montreal (South Shore)Quebec, Canada
Posts: 5,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
Don't get me wrong i love being Canadian. BUT!!! I ordered a blower package from Jannetty racing, came in four boxes. No duty or brokerage at the door, but just got 4 invoices for them. Total of 715$ Canadian in duty and brokerage! I already paid a lot for shipping in the first place! Man we get raped hard for parts crossing the boarder!!!

/endrant


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Next time tell them that you will do the p/u at UPS... They(UPS) will give you a paper to go to the Customs & you pay the taxes ONLY no other fees.
__________________
RickRay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 02:14 PM   #3
Caswell239

 
Caswell239's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2ss/rs
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,135
Same with FedEx? That's who it was


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Caswell239 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
RickRay
INJACC
 
RickRay's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 CGM 2LT/RS AUTO
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Montreal (South Shore)Quebec, Canada
Posts: 5,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
Same with FedEx? That's who it was


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
I would guess so...
__________________
RickRay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 02:44 PM   #5
BlkSlvrdo129
 
Drives: 2008 Silverado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 98
Is that $715 separate from the taxes?

Auto parts made in the states should be exempt from duty. I now drive across the border to pick up any shipments from a shipping centre to avoid brockerage.
BlkSlvrdo129 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 03:26 PM   #6
Meltdownaverted
I sell Camaro's
 
Meltdownaverted's Avatar
 
Drives: traded 11 2SS RS SGM for 13 SS 1LE
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brooks Alberta Canada
Posts: 1,343
Fed Ex is the worst, I always check before buying out of the states to ensure its not FedEx always seem to get charged way more duty and taxes
__________________
Meltdownaverted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 04:02 PM   #7
fshog
 
fshog's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 RS/2SS
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Okotoks, Alberta
Posts: 377
I used FedEx for shipping up here recently for headers, full exhaust, and some misc. parts and was charged around $150 for everything including brokerage fees. I know they charge based on value though, so it kinda doesn't surprise me on the $715 charge given what you bought. FedEx is generally more expensive, but on my order for some reason was extremely cheaper.
fshog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 04:16 PM   #8
mhoskins76
HTWEELS
 
mhoskins76's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS Hot Wheels Edition
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta
Posts: 887
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meltdownaverted View Post
Fed Ex is the worst, I always check before buying out of the states to ensure its not FedEx always seem to get charged way more duty and taxes
Fed Ex and UPS are the worst for duty charges. I always ask to have stuff shipped via USPS which goes through Canada Post. Might take an extra day or two to get here to Fort McMurray, but worth it when not having to pay the duty charges.

And another thing I never ask for here is express delivery. Does not happen here because things go through Edmonton first then get driven up the highway. So depending on the time it gets to Edmonton it might not get up the highway for the next day.
__________________
2013 2SS Hot Wheels Edition 727 of 1524
w/ Dual Mode Performance Exhaust, Nav, and
Performance Shifter.
DELIVERED APRIL 22nd, 2013 and enjoying every minute since!

Mods:
Cold Air Inductions CAI, CNC Ported Throttle Body, Elite Engineering Oil Catch Can, Smoked Spyder LED Tail Lights, OEM 1LE Strut Tower Bar, 12" JBL Sub, JBL Amp, Stealth Sub Box, American Racing LT headers and hi-flo cats, Tuned by Davenport, LED lights, Custom painted interior, Custom painted hood liner, Niche Targa M-130 wheels

More mods to come!
mhoskins76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 06:09 PM   #9
slededorilllia
slededorillia
 
slededorilllia's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 camaro 2ss convertible
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: ontario
Posts: 47
i have heard of a lot of places just over the border that offer parcel pick up for Canadians with minimal charges......my father-in-law gets stuff all the time shipped to these places, and some even offer to repackage stuff and send it as a gift or labelled at the minimum price for stuff to be shipped without duties and brokerage fees.....we use a few places in buffalo, where the old lady shops about once a month and picks up all the stuff.....shitty luck about your charges though.....
slededorilllia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 06:10 PM   #10
Caswell239

 
Caswell239's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2ss/rs
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,135
I wish I could do parcel pick up, cept I live probably 10 hours from the nearest boarder, atleast 10
Caswell239 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 06:50 PM   #11
Trackman

 
Trackman's Avatar
 
Drives: 67RS Camaro ,Black 2013 ZL1
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 968
I think UPS is worse than Fedex when it comes to excessive brokerage charges. I'm sure half that bill is tax. I'm surprised you paid any duty. The parts your describing would likely be assembled in the USA so they should be exempt.
Trackman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 06:57 PM   #12
Matster

 
Matster's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IOM #3625
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Posts: 1,886
Thinking the majority of the $715 is HST. Not sure which blower package but most run between $6000 & $7000, so depending what province ur in 13% -15%?
__________________
666 EVIL RWHP BUILT AND TUNED BY SHIFTED PERCEPTIONS INC.(SPi)

416 Forged Stroker, E-Force Supercharger, Blower Cam, Rotofab CAI, Stainless Works 2" LT Headers and 3" Exhaust, LPE ZR1 Twin Disc Clutch, DSS 1400 HP Axles, Pfadt Performance Kit Stage 3.
Matster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 07:05 PM   #13
Rob3D

 
Drives: Car
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Here
Posts: 846
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
Don't get me wrong i love being Canadian. BUT!!! I ordered a blower package from Jannetty racing, came in four boxes. No duty or brokerage at the door, but just got 4 invoices for them. Total of 715$ Canadian in duty and brokerage! I already paid a lot for shipping in the first place! Man we get raped hard for parts crossing the boarder!!!

/endrant


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Yeah, but you got hockey which makes it alllllllllll ok!
Rob3D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 08:18 PM   #14
Meltdownaverted
I sell Camaro's
 
Meltdownaverted's Avatar
 
Drives: traded 11 2SS RS SGM for 13 SS 1LE
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brooks Alberta Canada
Posts: 1,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matster View Post
Thinking the majority of the $715 is HST. Not sure which blower package but most run between $6000 & $7000, so depending what province ur in 13% -15%?
He's in Alberta no PST or HST here
__________________
Meltdownaverted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 08:31 PM   #15
Matster

 
Matster's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IOM #3625
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Posts: 1,886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meltdownaverted View Post
He's in Alberta no PST or HST here
Rub it in But hey with all that oil in ur backyard that's the least the gov can do.
__________________
666 EVIL RWHP BUILT AND TUNED BY SHIFTED PERCEPTIONS INC.(SPi)

416 Forged Stroker, E-Force Supercharger, Blower Cam, Rotofab CAI, Stainless Works 2" LT Headers and 3" Exhaust, LPE ZR1 Twin Disc Clutch, DSS 1400 HP Axles, Pfadt Performance Kit Stage 3.
Matster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 08:51 PM   #16
Caswell239

 
Caswell239's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2ss/rs
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,135
The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!
Caswell239 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 10:30 PM   #17
Cap'n Pete
 
Cap'n Pete's Avatar
 
Drives: '02 Z28
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 85
I've typically found UPS to be worse than FedEx for cross-border shipping. I've had some large/heavy items shipped by FedEx (full exhaust system, a transmission on a skid) and while the shipping ain't "cheap", the "surprise" brokerage fee after the fact (on top of the up front shipping cost) isn't as bad as UPS ... who RAPE YOU after the fact. I just bought a set of skis for my sled recently: $200 skis, $120 shipping (UPS) and THEN $90 brokerage fee upon delivery!!! So I paid $210 for shipping on $200 parts!!
__________________
Current car:
2002 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56 - Black
Previous cars:
2006 Corvette Z06 - LS7 - LeMans Blue
2010 Corvette - LS3/MN6 - Black

www.time-attack.ca
Cap'n Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 10:45 PM   #18
slededorilllia
slededorillia
 
slededorilllia's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 camaro 2ss convertible
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: ontario
Posts: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cap'n Pete View Post
I've typically found UPS to be worse than FedEx for cross-border shipping. I've had some large/heavy items shipped by FedEx (full exhaust system, a transmission on a skid) and while the shipping ain't "cheap", the "surprise" brokerage fee after the fact (on top of the up front shipping cost) isn't as bad as UPS ... who RAPE YOU after the fact. I just bought a set of skis for my sled recently: $200 skis, $120 shipping (UPS) and THEN $90 brokerage fee upon delivery!!! So I paid $210 for shipping on $200 parts!!
hey is it cap'n pete from HCS?????
slededorilllia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 01:16 AM   #19
dragon22

 
dragon22's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
Don't get me wrong i love being Canadian. BUT!!! I ordered a blower package from Jannetty racing, came in four boxes. No duty or brokerage at the door, but just got 4 invoices for them. Total of 715$ Canadian in duty and brokerage! I already paid a lot for shipping in the first place! Man we get raped hard for parts crossing the boarder!!!

/endrant


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Wait a minute...they charged you duty? Aren't the parts made in North America? We're not supposed to have to pay duty anymore unless the parts are made outside of North America. I would argue that!
__________________
2010 2SS/RS - 6M Silver Ice Metallic

ARH LT Headers with MBRP 3" catback exhaust, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ZL1 inspired splitter, ZL1 Grille, Rear Fascia blackout, Gill decals, Aftermarket Hurst Short Throw shifter, Tune by Jannetty Racing.
dragon22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 05:33 AM   #20
Matster

 
Matster's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IOM #3625
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Posts: 1,886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!
Caswell if this is the case and you are a resident of Alberta, irrelevant of where the goods entered Canada you might be entitled to an HST rebate. Check out this website http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tp.../menu-eng.html.

From the CRA's website mentioned above.....

General rebates

There are various situations that entitle resident and non-resident individuals or businesses to a GST/HST rebate. In some cases, you don't have to be registered for the GST/HST. For instance, you may have paid the GST/HST in error on a non-taxable item
, or you may have paid the HST on imported goods that will not be used or consumed in a participating province.

Check out the attached rebate form and good luck Be sure to post whether you are eligible and whether you get the HST back as this may be helpful to other members in Alberta.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf HST General Rebate Form.pdf (48.2 KB, 29 views)
__________________
666 EVIL RWHP BUILT AND TUNED BY SHIFTED PERCEPTIONS INC.(SPi)

416 Forged Stroker, E-Force Supercharger, Blower Cam, Rotofab CAI, Stainless Works 2" LT Headers and 3" Exhaust, LPE ZR1 Twin Disc Clutch, DSS 1400 HP Axles, Pfadt Performance Kit Stage 3.
Matster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 05:33 AM   #21
Motion427
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Red Jewel L99
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NB,Canada
Posts: 839
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon22 View Post
Wait a minute...they charged you duty? Aren't the parts made in North America? We're not supposed to have to pay duty anymore unless the parts are made outside of North America. I would argue that!

Yes,if the product is made in the USA,you would not need to pay for brokerage fees.
But you have to have the right paper work to be exempt.If you do not have the paper work,you pay the normal fees.
Even if it's not made in the USA,proper paper work does help with the Fees quite a bit.
We import from the US everyday.We use UPS,FED EX or ship to our warehouse in Calais,Me. (I'm from the East coast).Because we buy performance/4x4 parts on a daily basis,I use a customs broker based on the weight of the product and not tha value. UPS and FEDEX brokerage is based on the value of the product.
So a $6600.00US supercharger pkg, will not cost us a crazy amount of money to get it here to our Canadian customers.
Actually we would sell a Camaro supercharger(Whipple).If I use $6600.00US as an example again.I would sell it around $6800.00 CDN +HST or GST(depends on the province we ship it to)out the door at our shop.

Same here,we are 3 hours away from the border.It would not benefit me to drive a 6+ hour drive round trip to the border to pick up our parts which is at the border anyway,because we have a good broker to help us out to import or export products to and from the USA.

If you buy alot of products, look up a broker near you.Or shop around for a good Canadian side performance/4x4. It may be cheaper in the long run.
Motion427 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 06:40 AM   #22
Matster

 
Matster's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IOM #3625
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Posts: 1,886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Motion427 View Post
Yes,if the product is made in the USA,you would not need to pay for brokerage fees.
But you have to have the right paper work to be exempt.If you do not have the paper work,you pay the normal fees.
Even if it's not made in the USA,proper paper work does help with the Fees quite a bit.
We import from the US everyday.We use UPS,FED EX or ship to our warehouse in Calais,Me. (I'm from the East coast).Because we buy performance/4x4 parts on a daily basis,I use a customs broker based on the weight of the product and not tha value. UPS and FEDEX brokerage is based on the value of the product.
So a $6600.00US supercharger pkg, will not cost us a crazy amount of money to get it here to our Canadian customers.
Actually we would sell a Camaro supercharger(Whipple).If I use $6600.00US as an example again.I would sell it around $6800.00 CDN +HST or GST(depends on the province we ship it to)out the door at our shop.

Same here,we are 3 hours away from the border.It would not benefit me to drive a 6+ hour drive round trip to the border to pick up our parts which is at the border anyway,because we have a good broker to help us out to import or export products to and from the USA.

If you buy alot of products, look up a broker near you.Or shop around for a good Canadian side performance/4x4. It may be cheaper in the long run.
Hey Motion, Fellow NB'r here born and raised in Sussex now living in Ontario.

Your post is a little confusing so may be I can clarify this a bit.

Goods that are manufactured in North America that comply with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) rules of origin do indeed enter Canada duty free. Duty and brokerage fees are 2 different things, duty is collected by the broker and handed onto the Federal Government based on the value of the goods and Brokerage fees are charged by the carrier/broker for their services. Brokerage fees can be determined by any number of things and are negotiated rates between the broker and their customer. In your case it would appear you are paying brokerage fees based on the weight of the shipment.

Technically in order to receive the duty free benefits under the NAFTA, the importer must be in possession of a properly complete Certificate of Origin from the manufacturer. A simple statement on the commercial invoice "made in the U.S." is not sufficient but is often used on LVS (low value shipments) under $1,600.00 CAD. The NAFTA certificate can be a "one time" which would apply to one shipment and would identify the PO #, commercial invoice number or some other reference number specific to that one shipment. For large commercial importers that import a lot of product from one supplier throughout the year, they can request that the manufacturer complete a blanket certificate, this would itemized all products imported and can be issued for a period not exceeding 12 months.

The most common misconception is that "its made in the U.S. or Mexico" it therefore should be duty free. There is a set of origin rules as thick as an encyclopedia that lay out the rules on how and what must take place in order to qualify for NAFTA.
__________________
666 EVIL RWHP BUILT AND TUNED BY SHIFTED PERCEPTIONS INC.(SPi)

416 Forged Stroker, E-Force Supercharger, Blower Cam, Rotofab CAI, Stainless Works 2" LT Headers and 3" Exhaust, LPE ZR1 Twin Disc Clutch, DSS 1400 HP Axles, Pfadt Performance Kit Stage 3.
Matster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 09:18 AM   #23
willhe64

 
willhe64's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 45th Vert, 2011 4x4, 9sec Vega
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,905
I had my Supercharger drop shipped (for free from SCC!) to Summit Customs brokers at the border. They brought it through and shipped it to me. Total cost of tax brokerage and shipping was $275. No duty.
__________________
I feel it only fair to warn you, I have a black belt in CAPS LOCK.
willhe64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 10:51 AM   #24
Trackman

 
Trackman's Avatar
 
Drives: 67RS Camaro ,Black 2013 ZL1
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswell239 View Post
The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!
I cross border shop all the time. I never have been charged HST when parts cross the border through a province that has HST/PST.
Scan and post your Fedex statement.
Trackman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 02:20 PM   #25
mhoskins76
HTWEELS
 
mhoskins76's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS Hot Wheels Edition
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta
Posts: 887
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackman View Post
I cross border shop all the time. I never have been charged HST when parts cross the border through a province that has HST/PST.
Scan and post your Fedex statement.
Well when you live close to the border...it is definitely a good idea to do so.

Unfortunately for the OP and myself we live at least a 10 hour drive one way to the border. So for us it just does not make sense to do that.

__________________
2013 2SS Hot Wheels Edition 727 of 1524
w/ Dual Mode Performance Exhaust, Nav, and
Performance Shifter.
DELIVERED APRIL 22nd, 2013 and enjoying every minute since!

Mods:
Cold Air Inductions CAI, CNC Ported Throttle Body, Elite Engineering Oil Catch Can, Smoked Spyder LED Tail Lights, OEM 1LE Strut Tower Bar, 12" JBL Sub, JBL Amp, Stealth Sub Box, American Racing LT headers and hi-flo cats, Tuned by Davenport, LED lights, Custom painted interior, Custom painted hood liner, Niche Targa M-130 wheels

More mods to come!
mhoskins76 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.