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Old 06-22-2009, 06:30 AM   #76
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GM just needs to quit ****ing yanking our chains and let us know is it coming out or NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:42 AM   #77
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its a model. and how is it there are so many people who don't understand still that Z/28 is above SS?
Umm 4th gen?
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:46 AM   #78
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but guys lets be real here for a second hm is B rupt right now. they do not have money to spend on developing another sports car, also gm's SS and V is workers(cannot remember the name sorry) are gone

this might just be some after market parts that gm is producing for the camaro like bumber fasica hood
Good point. Isn't the performance division done at this point?
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:47 AM   #79
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hmmm the evidence seems to be overwhelming that there is a z


but guys lets be real here for a second hm is B rupt right now. they do not have money to spend on developing another sports car, also gm's SS and V is workers(cannot remember the name sorry) are gone

this might just be some after market parts that gm is producing for the camaro like bumber fasica hood
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Good point. Isn't the performance division done at this point?

If you read the thread, you learn that this was supposed to be the Z28 design, not just GM working on a bumper and so forth just for looks.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:51 AM   #80
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It's a nice idea and I sincerely hope GM gets back on form and able to produce this model. Whether it happens is a question I doubt anyone here can answer - but it won't be this year or even next.. will it? Perhaps 2012 or 2013 toward the end of this 5th Gen's supposed production period. Hmm.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:52 AM   #81
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I don't doubt they were working on it.... but are they still? doubtful. They almost cut the 'vert.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:58 AM   #82
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I have high hopes that a Z28 will be produced but I'm still not sure if it will happen or not. Figured GM would have already said something about it. And i thought that GM already posted in an article that it wouldn't happen???
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:58 AM   #83
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As someone already said...you are looking at $50K/$60K Z/28 if produced as most are assuming!

Think about this too...for an LS9 engine, GM wants what...$25K or so...add that to the $36K of the SS and you are at $61K and that's without the new tranny, rearend, suspension, front fascia, etc, etc...you are looking at a $75K - $100K car with the LS9!

An LS7 or even a beefed up LS3 you are in the area of $50K/$60K!

How many GT500s are selling each year? I'd think not enough for GM to produce this Camaro...at least while in their situation!

Love the thought but maybe at the end of the 5th gen era we'll see it...
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:02 AM   #84
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I think GM is doing it right here. I also think we'll all be surprised by the powertrain. Think about the original Z-28... It had the SMALLEST C.I.D. of any V-8 model, with an ADVERTISED HP of 295, which was ridiculously conservative. Of course this was to satisfy trans am limits of under 305 cu. in., but nevertheless, that's it's heritage.

I think in this ecological and political climate, the 2011 Z/28 is going to be a V-6 that produces, through the use of some really cutting edge technology, an amazing amount of performance. It may even be a hybrid high performance, who knows, but I don't expect it to have a V-8, at least not as big as the SS. Just my opinion. If GM is really reinventing themselves, it would be very disappointing for the Z/28 to be nothing more than badges, stripes, and fake air dams.
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:25 AM   #85
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GM will not make a camaro faster than a corvette. If the current regular vette also has 426hp then the z28 will probably be at or below that level. A current vette is around $45-$50k. so if they decide to give the z28 more power the price will reflect it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:20 AM   #87
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The stories have been pretty consistent around the Z/28. The design is done, but the car won't be produced anytime soon, if at all:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...rns/index.html

http://www.motorauthority.com/previe...amaro-z28.html

http://autos.signonsandiego.com/auto...le-release.php

http://jalopnik.com/5176933/camaro-z...urther-delayed

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/20/r...-facing-cance/


The convertible seems to be getting the axe, at least temporarily, as well.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:28 AM   #88
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You can make your own you know. Put on a supercharger, headers, cams and so forth. I may go that route, just get a 2SS that is 2-3 years old for $15-$20k and modify it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:35 AM   #90
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Wow, when were those pictures taken? I think someone said the pictures came out of a 3 year old book. They look pretty old. Looks like they are from the original design of the Camaro when, I am sure, they were just deciding what to do with the camaro (ie: LT 1LT, 2LT, 1SS, and 2SS).
However I do like the hood. It would be wierd for that hhod to be on a Z28 since the SS has always been the high Performance version of the V8 and always sported the ram Air type hood. And the Z28 had the looks and style of the V6 but the power from a V8.



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its a model. and how is it there are so many people who don't understand still that Z/28 is above SS?
On all generations upto now, the Z28 was always a lesser V8 version. In the 70s the Z28 and SS alternated, one year they had the SS the next they had the Z28 and so forth, both were the High perf version of the Camaro that came with a bigger engine than the base engine. In the 93-2002 time period, it had V6 styling, making it affordable to people that could not afford an SS. The Forth generation SS had approx 30 more HP at the rear wheel horsepower and was the Cadillac version of the V8 packaged car. Also in 96 they had an LT4 version of the SS. The SS disappeared during the first 2-3 years of the 4th gen time, so only the Z28 was available. So the SS always had more power than the Z28.

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GM just needs to quit yanking our chains and let us know is it coming out or NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was an interview with GM (Settlemire) stating that there would be NO Z28.

Not trying to rain on anyones parade, I'm just trying to add some facts. However, if they had a Z28 version it would make it much easier to buy a performance camaro for less.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:01 AM   #91
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I have high hopes that a Z28 will be produced but I'm still not sure if it will happen or not. Figured GM would have already said something about it. And i thought that GM already posted in an article that it wouldn't happen???
Yes. Good point. I am not knocking down GM. I am a true Chevy guy through & through. BUT,...think about this.
Why would Chevrolet wait on announcing the Z28 return? I think they are shooting themselves in the foot by doing that. Reason; because everyone, (ok not everyone), but a good majority of people are going out and buying the SS models right now. So, by the time the Z28 does come out, (if it does at all), people will be locked into their finances with their current Camaro and would have to wait on a purchase of the Z28, (if it is being produced). That could hurt GM in my opinion.
BUT,....on the plus side for GM. People that buy their SS models now will WANT the Z28, (if it does make production), and will trade in their current SS Camaros, thus making GM LOTS of money and boosting Camaro production. Just my opinion and something to think about.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:11 AM   #92
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the Z28 design has been finalized. GM knows what they want to do. they just cant afford to do it right now
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:44 AM   #93
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its a model. and how is it there are so many people who don't understand still that Z/28 is above SS?
ONLY BECAUSE THEY STOPED PRODUCING THE SS FOR SO MANY YEARS ... IMO THE SS HAS ALLWAYS LOOKED MORE BADAZ THAN THE Z BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY ARE BOTH CAMAROS ... THEY PRODUCED A SS396 IN 1967(WHICH I HAVE HA! HA! ) TO GET ONE IN THE Z WAS A SPECIAL ORDER SO TELL ME DO YOU THINK A Z WITH A 327 HAS MORE PERFORMANCE THAN A SS WITH A 396 ... PERSONALLY I THINK THE BIG HOOD SCOOP BELONGS ON THE SS AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT WITH SOMETHING LIKE AN LS9 OPTION
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:53 AM   #94
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I hope that the Z28 will be a stripper package w/o a radio and maybe even no a/c. It needs to be basicly a street legal factory race car.
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I hope that the Z28 will be a stripper package w/o a radio and maybe even no a/c. It needs to be basicly a street legal factory race car.
Thats EXACTLY what GM should do when they have the extra $$. I can't see the Z28 being more expensive than the CTS-V, which starts at 60k i believe. They have to price it competively to the GT500 or why bother
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GM will not make a camaro faster than a corvette. If the current regular vette also has 426hp then the z28 will probably be at or below that level. A current vette is around $45-$50k. so if they decide to give the z28 more power the price will reflect it.
i don't remember who but they said they were not scared to get into vette territory. Maybe at the Cleveland auto show?
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:25 AM   #97
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:45 AM   #98
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:18 PM   #100
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I think in the situation that GM is in, they will keep pushing the v-6 & SS models. Maybe in the future they will get back lucrative & kick out a z-28. Hell, I'm surprised that they still came out with the zr-1.
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