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Old 04-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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bmw 330i vs camaro LT

Alright, so i figured i'd give y'all something to lighten up your morning.

My friend is talking big about how his car can smoke mine if he took of his speed limiter haha. also saying that my exhaust does nothing for my car with increasing horsepower

his car: 2002 Bmw 330i 3.0 inline 6 | all stock

in the past he's said how his is faster than mine, so i mentioned lets go to the 1/4 mile and see and he backed out saying i'd win.
but yesterday he's now saying he can smoke my car

Just want to see if y'all think it would be close or not. I dont know how an older bmw compares speed wise.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:26 AM   #2
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My cousin has a 2009 330i .. its defnatley a lighter car.. not sure about the HP and 0-60 speed..
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:34 AM   #3
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2002 330i has 225hp 214 ft lbs torque.

i just want him to see what everyone would say so that way he'd shut up about it
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #4
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They were mid 14s at best. If he's taken good care of it then he still may be able to pull a similar time. You should be low 14s and even high 13 in good air.

Best way to get him to shut up is invite him to the track again. If he declines, the make fun of him.
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lol 2002 3 series? yeah my little sister has that car and every other girl I know lol
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man, I got a friend with exactly the same car, 330i BMW model 2002 and he talk shit all the time about how he can beat me, but when I tell him lets find out who is faster he backs off

but I dont think its a powerful car
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oh, Also, I dont think there is any gain from Axle back exhaust, maybe weight savings at best
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oh, Also, I dont think there is any gain from Axle back exhaust, maybe weight savings at best
oh i know the axle back wont increase power, but the long tube headers do.
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oh i know the axle back wont increase power, but the long tube headers do.
Are you tuned?
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Are you tuned?
not yet, im looking to get a ported throttle body and an intake before i do.

Don't know too much about tuning the camaro to know how much of a difference it will make.
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not yet, im looking to get a ported throttle body and an intake before i do.

Don't know too much about tuning the camaro to know how much of a difference it will make.
Looks like they are starting to get some pretty good results with bolt-on LLTs lately. If you can pick up another 15 ft-lbs of torque down low you can cut some time off your 60' and that helps a lot in the 1/4 mile.
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awesome! what do you recommend to increase low end torque? also what tune would you go for?

Awesome numbers on the LFX by the way. i could only imagine getting to that point
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awesome! what do you recommend to increase low end torque? also what tune would you go for?

Awesome numbers on the LFX by the way. i could only imagine getting to that point
Both IPF and Trifecta offer tunes. I'd work with Matt@FSP (member here). Just PM him; I'm sure he can help you.

I think most of the low-end torque gains are coming from the VVT phasing. With headers you may pick up even more than usual. You might want to look into the intake isolators (VMAX and MACE). They help low-end torque as well.

If you have an automatic then they can tune that as well and it will feel like a totally different car.
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Both IPF and Trifecta offer tunes. I'd work with Matt@FSP (member here). Just PM him; I'm sure he can help you.

I think most of the low-end torque gains are coming from the VVT phasing. With headers you may pick up even more than usual. You might want to look into the intake isolators (VMAX and MACE). They help low-end torque as well.

If you have an automatic then they can tune that as well and it will feel like a totally different car.


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Here's something for you:

stock tune with intake, compared to with IPF tune, and then highest solid line is with LT headers added in. Thats a solid 350 - 360 crank HP.

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Here's something for you:

stock tune with intake, compared to with IPF tune, and then highest solid line is with LT headers added in. Thats a solid 350 - 360 crank HP.

You will feel the part in the yellow circle. That's atleast a 20 ft-lb bump in TQ.
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More horse power is always nice, that that torque feeling I'm looking for. I'll definitely have to go with a black ice-olator though if what I'm hearing about them it true and Also a cai and ported throttle body. That should be good enough to get that feeling
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Shouldn't even be close, I hate these BMW fanboys who think their junker 10 year 3 series is the "ultimate driving machine"
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Here's something for you:

stock tune with intake, compared to with IPF tune, and then highest solid line is with LT headers added in. Thats a solid 350 - 360 crank HP.

Assuming 15% drivetrain loss if a 6spd car (333x.85=283.05) this graph represents a 333 hp @ the crank. Still awesome from a 6cyl...
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Here's something for you:

stock tune with intake, compared to with IPF tune, and then highest solid line is with LT headers added in. Thats a solid 350 - 360 crank HP.

Eh. 360 crank horsepower? Stock G37's and 370Z's are rated 328-330 horsepower and put down 290-305 whp stock.

350-360 may be correct under the pre-2007 SAE hp revisions albeit.

Though this is a mustang dyno, but mustang's are not known for reliably comparable numbers. Most read low, some read high.

Probably would read 290ish whp on a dynojet.

Reminds me of few other V6's.

accord v6 j30a5 3.0 liter

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Eh. 360 crank horsepower? Stock G37's and 370Z's are rated 328-330 horsepower and put down 290-305 whp stock.

350-360 may be correct under the pre-2007 SAE hp revisions albeit.

Though this is a mustang dyno, but mustang's are not known for reliably comparable numbers. Most read low, some read high.

Probably would read 290ish whp on a dynojet.

Reminds me of few other V6's.

accord v6 j30a5 3.0 liter


Why are you on this forum?

Every time you comment I see something that says Nissan, Infiniti or Honda is better or faster then the camaro.

Are you trying to troll or do you just want to keep everyone informed about these import cars and how much better they are then the camaro?

I agree those cars are awesome but why the comparison in every thread?

I was very close to buying a used g35 but decided for 5k more I could get a brand new camaro!

The 370z and g37 should be competing with the 1LE not the 22k camaro v6. Or maybe that's why you compare them with v6 camaros is because the 1LE is no comparison.
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Why are you on this forum?

Every time you comment I see something that says Nissan, Infiniti or Honda is better or faster then the camaro.

Are you trying to troll or do you just want to keep everyone informed about these import cars and how much better they are then the camaro?

I agree those cars are awesome but why the comparison in every thread?

I was very close to buying a used g35 but decided for 5k more I could get a brand new camaro!

The 370z and g37 should be competing with the 1LE not the 22k camaro v6. Or maybe that's why you compare them with v6 camaros is because the 1LE is no comparison.
Where did I say it was better? The dyno I posted was less and was on a dynojet, not a mustang. Don't get your panties in a wad.

Comparing one engine's power output and response to mods is fair to a similar engine is fair.

Yeah let's compare a $30k 370z v6 coupe to a $45k v8 muscle car and not a similarly equipped 1LT V6 Camaro for $26k, or let's compare a $35k 4 door v6 luxury sedan to a $45k 6.2 liter muscle car. Common sense.

Apples to apples is at least comparing cars with the same type of engine.

So if I posted dyno graphs from bolt on v6 mustang, then I'm a ford lover too?
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Eh. 360 crank horsepower? Stock G37's and 370Z's are rated 328-330 horsepower and put down 290-305 whp stock.

350-360 may be correct under the pre-2007 SAE hp revisions albeit.

Though this is a mustang dyno, but mustang's are not known for reliably comparable numbers. Most read low, some read high.

Probably would read 290ish whp on a dynojet.

Reminds me of few other V6's.

accord v6 j30a5 3.0 liter

More BS. Most 350 HP Nismos are getting upper 280s, low 290s at the wheels. A typical 370z manual is around low 270s.

What do you think we don't read other forums?
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I like other cars owners opinion, why are u so defensive?

he doesn't own a Camaro, so he uses the cars he knows
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