Why does RJT cost more?

[Rocky918]

call me a noob or whatever, im not to knowledgeable on cars or car paint... so why does red jewel tintcoat cost more then the other paints? whats so different besides the color of the paint? or is it just something GM concocted to make more money for no reason?

[franknbeans]

it's a 3 stage paint.

= more paint
= more time
=more money

[Rocky918]

and the others are a 1 stage paint? (i dont really know anything abuot paint jobs sorry) ... so theres no 1 coat rjt, meaning it takes 3 coats?

[Teccboxx]

RJT has
1 basecoat - black
2 coats of RJT
then clear.

I believe Orange Metallic also has 3 coats of paint

The rest have 2

Correct me if I am wrong....

[JHart]

if the iom was a 3 stage why is it not priced higher??

my grandma has an 08 impala ltz in the red jewel, she likes garnet/maroon so we got it, it's a gleamin color when clean, beautiful color.

[Rocky918]

Originally Posted by Teccboxx

RJT has
1 basecoat - black
2 coats of RJT
then clear.

I believe Orange Metallic also has 3 coats of paint

The rest have 2

Correct me if I am wrong....

once again im a noob .... whats the purpose of the base coat of black if they add 2 subsequent coats of RJT to cover it up anyway?

[CamaroSkooter]

To give it a darker and fuller deep red color. The darker the base coat is, the darker the top coat will look.

[Chevyrocker]

Originally Posted by JHart

if the iom was a 3 stage why is it not priced higher??

my grandma has an 08 impala ltz in the red jewel, she likes garnet/maroon so we got it, it's a gleamin color when clean, beautiful color.

There is an upcharge for IOM.

Both of these paints are extremely difficult to produce and therefore you have to pay a couple hundred dollars to get them. Not a big deal though.

[Teccboxx]

Originally Posted by JHart

if the iom was a 3 stage why is it not priced higher??

my grandma has an 08 impala ltz in the red jewel, she likes garnet/maroon so we got it, it's a gleamin color when clean, beautiful color.

IOM does have the same up charge well at least for any new orders all the R6P guys won't be charged.


RJT the T stand for tintcoat so it is more like a glaze I guess you can say if you put it on white or even primer grey it will look more pinkish. The black gives it that deep red look.

[ITZHIZZ]

Paint Basics 001.

Single stage--no clear, if you polish you will color your cloth. Many solid colors can be single stage.

Two stage-- Base is color- top coated with clear. To be honest the base coat is really not much different than a primer. Has no skin or UV protection without clear. No color on cloth when polished. Most metallic colors of today are clearcoats, some solids.

Three stage or Tri stage-- Pearl--- Usually consists of a base color, intermediate color, and clear coat. Also can be a base color with a clear coat that contains metallic or pearl.

Red jewel tint coat-- Similar to three stage but with red metallic color in clear.

Have RJT on my Trailblazer SS. Incredible color when clean. REALLY POPS!!

When scratched it appears to have a red-orange base. Touch up paint from GM looks orange too. Have had to color sand and buff some areas on an Impala. Cloth had red color. Transition from topcoat (clear tint coat) to base coat is not as defined as a regular two or even three stage color.

What I mean is it is almost as though they start out with red orange and keep adding a darker metallic red to the mix with a bunch of clear mixed in at the end.

Example: 1 qt red orange, reduce and spray out half of product, add 1 qt darker metallic red to left over original, reduce and spray out half, add 2 quarts clear to remaining product, spray out balance. Result= Red Jewel Tint coat.

I am not saying this is the way they do it.
As you can see, this is not a "any car any color process" thus the upcharge.

Karl

[Rockytophummer]

IOM is $325 charge is it same for red jewel?

[Teccboxx]

Originally Posted by Rockytophummer

IOM is $325 charge is it same for red jewel?

yup

[Shadowmind]

Originally Posted by Rockytophummer

IOM is $325 charge is it same for red jewel?

Yes
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As for paint 101.

Paint is layered to give it depth. The solid colors don't need depth, so there is only 1 coat plus clear coat. The metallic tint coats are base coated, then the color fast is applied, and then a metallic clear coat is applied. That is what gives it its depth and color variation depending on light.

A super pro paint job will consist of several to a dozen or more layers of paint.

Here is how to get the most fantastic candy apple red.

1. Gold base coat.
2. Red coat, sanded @ 120 grit. then buffed.
3. Red coat, sanded @ 180 grit, buffed.
4. Red coat, sanded @ 240 grit, buffed.
5. Red coat, sanded @ 500 grit, buffed.
6. Red coat, sanded @ 500 grit, buffed.
Im sure you're getting the picture.
Throw on several clear coats buffed up on top of that.

What you have is a deep, deep color that will almost glow in the sun. It will look exactly like a candied apple.

Very, very expensive to produce. The metallic tint coats are factory sprayed to get kinda the same kind of effect, just not as intensive or expensive. $400 is a steal for such great colors IMO

[Trappistbrew]

Can anyone tell me why IOM did not originally cost more? If the process to paint IOM is basically the same as RJT, then why only a couple months ago did the price of IOM go up?

[Hylton]

Because it's bad ass!

[Trappistbrew]

True!! That's why I paid the extra $$$ for it even though I have an R6P allocation!