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Old 04-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #1
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ECS SC1500 Base Kit, N/A Cam, Meth.. 714rwhp

Did a couple of minor updates on this client's vehicle. We were a few HP shy of the 700 mark last time in the bad heat. Was able to re-dyno the car, still at 12* timing, made 13psi, on a decent weather day.

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Mustang MD-150 eddy load controlled dyno. (Corrected #'s were actually a bit higher).

Pulled to 6650...
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #2
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:31 PM   #3
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whats the specs on the cam?
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:52 PM   #4
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whats the specs on the cam?

If I am not mistaken it is a TSP 231 cam on a 112LSA . By far not the boost cam, but as you can see it works quite well still!
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:56 PM   #6
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:46 PM   #7
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Thanks Matt, you've helped me with the remaining answer I was looking for in my own application.

Great numbers!
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:43 PM   #8
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whats the specs on the cam?

231/236 112 LSA-
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:05 PM   #9
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Birm that cam totally makes me lol, your car makes great number under boost with it. I wish now I didn't spend another 1K on that swap and just would of first used my TSP 231/236 cam.

Congrats battle buddy
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #10
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:46 PM   #11
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Birm that cam totally makes me lol, your car makes great number under boost with it. I wish now I didn't spend another 1K on that swap and just would of first used my TSP 231/236 cam.

Congrats battle buddy
Thanks bro, remember you and I going back and forward on it? lol. I was iffy as well and didnt quite expect these #'s but hey, no complaints lol.

Best part is, driveability has remained the same

I'll attribute the last part to Matt's tuning though as its been spot on since I turned the key
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:18 PM   #12
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Thanks bro, remember you and I going back and forward on it? lol. I was iffy as well and didnt quite expect these #'s but hey, no complaints lol.

Best part is, driveability has remained the same

I'll attribute the last part to Matt's tuning though as its been spot on since I turned the key
Old thread I know. I have same cam and am looking at the same sc kit. Are those numbers on stock pistons/bottom end? I'm just looking for low to mid 600 for now. Thanks!
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:20 PM   #13
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Old thread I know. I have same cam and am looking at the same sc kit. Are those numbers on stock pistons/bottom end? I'm just looking for low to mid 600 for now. Thanks!

You got it!!! We've twisted them up higher than this as long as the fuel upgrades are there
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:34 PM   #14
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very impressive! What's the fuel set up on this?
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So how did you end up with 13 psi? Is this with the kit in "as shipped" configuration? I am about to install mine just wondering! Thanks!
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:08 PM   #16
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:22 AM   #17
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So how did you end up with 13 psi? Is this with the kit in "as shipped" configuration? I am about to install mine just wondering! Thanks!
3.47" pulley, remove restrictor ~13psi. On the 3.33" I'll see about 14-15 without restrictor depending on weather.
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ecs use a 7" crank pulley like vortech?
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ecs use a 7" crank pulley like vortech?
I think its a 7.5" pulley
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3.47" pulley, remove restrictor ~13psi. On the 3.33" I'll see about 14-15 without restrictor depending on weather.
Any benefits of removing restrictor and swapping pulley vs just grinding restrictor?
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7.9xx"
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Any benefits of removing restrictor and swapping pulley vs just grinding restrictor?

Yes very negative.. You'll see the loss in torque from going up on the pulley and removing the restrictor. That's why the ECS restrictor design has worked so well since its inception a long time ago, bringing on that torque down-low on centri-systems.
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Yes very negative.. You'll see the loss in torque from going up on the pulley and removing the restrictor. That's why the ECS restrictor design has worked so well since its inception a long time ago, bringing on that torque down-low on centri-systems.
Hmmm... I will have to analyze this.
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I don't have an ECS kit but I have a Centri. I got a 3.12 pulley with no restrictor plate and my torque is low compared to the ECS kits

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Old 09-10-2013, 12:24 PM   #25
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I don't have an ECS kit but I have a Centri. I got a 3.12 pulley with no restrictor plate and my torque is low compared to the ECS kits
We ran mine restricted and unrestricted, but different levels of boost. I need to find a comparative example as I did not think my 664 torque was too bad, but I would like to see the ramp in as well

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