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Old 04-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #1
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Cammed ls3 vs bolt on with gears ls3??

Ok so here is a bench race i have been thinkin of
My neighbor has an ls3 nightfury cammed for arguements sake we will call it 500 whp.

My car is also an ls3 but is a daily driver so i am getting ready to do headers hiflow cats and a tune. I am also thinking of 3.91 gears.

So question is on a 1/4 mile with good drivers and running same tires good launches yadda yadda.... Wud the big hp of the nitefury murder me?? Or wud the mechanical advantage of added hp and gears on my car make it atleast a good race?
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:12 AM   #2
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My car full exhaust headers back, intake, tune, 4.10 gears consistently beat my buddies cammed (G6X3) and exhaust at the track. by the end of the 1/4 though he was starting to run me down lol.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:15 PM   #3
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yea i would think you would jump out first but toward the end he would reel you in, but you would still win. This race will be won in the first 60'. whomever has the best RT and 60' is going to come out on top.
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If he can drive your getting killed, end of story! I dont know were these guys are coming up with this stuff! The gears are worth a tenth maybe on street tires... his cam, worth .3 easy! That car should run 11.9-12.3s @116-120 depending on DA, track prep and driver... your car 12.6-12.4 @112-113 and high 12s if your not on your game.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #5
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If he can drive your getting killed, end of story! I dont know were these guys are coming up with this stuff! The gears are worth a tenth maybe on street tires... his cam, worth .3 easy! That car should run 11.9-12.3s @116-120 depending on DA, track prep and driver... your car 12.6-12.4 @112-113 and high 12s if your not on your game.
he should be running 12.6-12.4 with just the headers cia and tune as stated above, then add the gears to it. i know my header and tune only PB on street tires was a 12.48
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:54 PM   #6
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yea i would think you would jump out first but toward the end he would reel you in, but you would still win. This race will be won in the first 60'. whomever has the best RT and 60' is going to come out on top.


My buddy has an ECS devil cam, FAST intake and heads (504/470). I will be going with him to the track soon. We both anticipate that he will be faster. My car "feels" about as fast (mods in sig), however his 60whp extra will likely walk me. We might see what's up on the ride down...
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:23 PM   #7
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he should be running 12.6-12.4 with just the headers cia and tune as stated above, then add the gears to it. i know my header and tune only PB on street tires was a 12.48
Not in SC he won't be. My best with headers, intake, tune was 12.8 and I call myself a pretty good driver our M6s. Possible though depending on where he is, but I still think the cammed car is going to walk him. He may get out of the hole a bit quicker, but that extra 60+ hp from the cam will make up for it quickly. And the fact that Shawn's NF cam has an amazing torque curve, that only adds to it.



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If he can drive your getting killed, end of story! I dont know were these guys are coming up with this stuff! The gears are worth a tenth maybe on street tires... his cam, worth .3 easy! That car should run 11.9-12.3s @116-120 depending on DA, track prep and driver... your car 12.6-12.4 @112-113 and high 12s if your not on your game.
I agree with this. Again it being Shawn's custom cam, it is simply amazing.
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Thanks guys for all the thoughts. All of your statements are exactly why i posted this. It just seems like there are positives to both set ups. I agree that 60 plus hp will make up any advantage gained out of the hole pretty quickly but like i said just a lil bench racing. We will likely never hit a drag track to find out. We are more into auto-x but just kinda wondering.
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If he can drive your getting killed, end of story! I dont know were these guys are coming up with this stuff! The gears are worth a tenth maybe on street tires... his cam, worth .3 easy! That car should run 11.9-12.3s @116-120 depending on DA, track prep and driver... your car 12.6-12.4 @112-113 and high 12s if your not on your game.
gears worth a tenth?? i haven't ran 391s but i am running 411s and I'll just say i picked up WAY more than a tenth. my money is on the bolted and geared camaro
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gears worth a tenth?? i haven't ran 391s but i am running 411s and I'll just say i picked up WAY more than a tenth. my money is on the bolted and geared camaro
Your butt dyno is NOT track results! Gears are a huge bang for the buck in the feel of your car, in reality its not gaining any thing close to a cam! Your getting walked hard in the topend by a cammed car. If your running tires and a gear, then my money would be on the bolton car, but thats not the case.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:16 PM   #11
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I have the night fury cam. Only been to the track once. Manual car. Ran 13.3 @114 w a 2.4 60ft, which is not good. Came out too hard. But the potential is there. It will come down to the driver. Once it gets rolling it pulls noticeably harder than it did stock.
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Your butt dyno is NOT track results! Gears are a huge bang for the buck in the feel of your car, in reality its not gaining any thing close to a cam! Your getting walked hard in the topend by a cammed car. If your running tires and a gear, then my money would be on the bolton car, but thats not the case.
im talkn about at the track!!!! i ran my car with stock gear and then the 411s at the track i know exactly how much i picked up, and it was way more than a tenth. the gears also help at the far end of the track because third and fourth gear are alot stronger. and i am also running a cam to, i done these mods at different times and my gears helped my car way more than the cam.
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Given equal traction and driving I dont see how gears could make up a 60RWHP difference.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:13 PM   #14
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im g6x3 cam , headers intake tune. on st. tires. i run a 12.0 -12.3 all the time in 2000 da. i hit 11.9 @ 119 yesterday on st. tires.
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im g6x3 cam , headers intake tune. on st. tires. i run a 12.0 -12.3 all the time in 2000 da. i hit 11.9 @ 119 yesterday on st. tires.
Nice pass man! And proves my point also.
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