VECTOR Motorsports / ZZ Motorsports Stage II Camaro Package Completed !! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

ZZcamaro · 06-22-2009, 11:35 AM

Vector Motorsports in Clinton Township, Michigan....in conjunction with ZZ Motorsports in Pittsburgh, PA, has completed development and testing of their first 2010 Camaro Stage II system.

The Stage II kit was developed to offer LS3 owners a cost effective way to dramatically increase HP and Torque, while maintaining the streetability of daily driver.

The Stage II kit includes:
Custom Grind Billet Core Stage II Camshaft
Comp Pushrods
PSI Valve Springs
Custom Ported Intake Manifold
Rotofab Cold Air Intake
1 3/4 Kooks Headers (your choice of Catted or Offroad X-pipe)

As shown below, Dyno Testing proved a 106 HP increase at the rear wheels!! And drastically increased Torque across the RPM range. All testing and tuning was done on Vector's in house Mustang Dyno

The full kit is priced VERY competitively, and is the best "bang for your buck" available for the Camaro.

If you want to see what this car can do, here is a brief look at a video of the car while tuning on the dyno:

Here is a copy of the dyno results:

This is a copy of detailed dyno results, and is highlighted with notes which show the improvement over the baseline numbers:

Yes that is right, this includes a Roto-Fab intake...The very first Roto-Fab CAI to be dynoed was tested on this car. Roto-Fab will have the pleasure of giving you those results, but let's just say it worked awesome, looked amazing, and fit perfectly!

For those of you who want to hear what this cam sounds like....here you go!! This is with the factory mufflers still installed...

We did test the car with other muffler combinations, and the factory mufflers will support this power without any modifications, if you want a different sound you can change the mufflers, but the HP gains remained the same.

Here are some other photos from the build and testing phase of this project:

From being the owner of the first car to have this package installed , I can say it runs, sounds, and looks amazing!!! At car cruises people flock to this car and love the sound. On my 5 hour trip home from the install I average 23.6 MPG all the way across the state of Ohio!! That is amazing when you consider the power that this car is producing!

A huge thanks goes out the Vector Motorsports for getting this project completed so quickly, and getting it out there so other LS3 owners can reliably add power to their vehicles.

Others may try to copy this package, but the results speak for themselves!! Vector and ZZ Motorsports have hit a homerun on this package, and we think the Camaro public will agree!

If you have any questions regarding this package, pricing, or installation you can contact Kirk at Vector Motorsports or Mark at ZZ motorsports.

Andro · 06-22-2009, 02:36 PM

Nice! How much?

ZZcamaro · 06-22-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andro

Nice! How much?

PM Sent.....Couldn't post the price here, I did not want the post to be moved...Contact us if you need details.

I was told I can post the price since we were asked.

The installed and tuned price will be $4950

Sack Rat 2SS · 06-22-2009, 05:08 PM

Something is not correct in the first post. The dyno run for TEST was done before the BASE run. How can that happen. Also early in the AM unless Vector works at night. Whasup??

1BadaSS · 06-22-2009, 06:56 PM

would also like to know how much for the package!

Kirk@VectorMotorsports · 06-22-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sack Rat 2SS

Something is not correct in the first post. The dyno run for TEST was done before the BASE run. How can that happen. Also early in the AM unless Vector works at night. Whasup??

The only thing not correct is the time & date. The computer that runs the dyno never has the right time or date. It is actually quite random, resetting itself every time it is restarted or the dyno software is shut down.

Last week we had it reporting it was 2015.

The dyno on the other hand is accurate within 1HP and calibrated every week.

pharmd · 06-22-2009, 08:09 PM

Nice work guys...can't wait to see track times, once the weather is better.

Steve@Vectormotorsports · 06-23-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BadaSS

would also like to know how much for the package!

PM or Email us for pricing on the Stage 1, 2 or 3.

UCI CamaroFan · 06-23-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZcamaro

PM Sent.....Couldn't post the price here, I did not want the post to be moved...Contact us if you need details.

I was told I can post the price since we were asked.

The installed and tuned price will be $4950

You claim this to be the most cost effective way to get a significant increase out of a Camaro SS, but I find that price tag still awfully high for what you are doing.

Can't you get it supercharged for only 2 grand more?

meissen · 06-23-2009, 01:56 PM

Steve's one of the best tuners around - Cheers to Vector Motorsports and ZZ Motorsports for an awesome package offer!

*GTAHVIT* · 06-23-2009, 01:58 PM

Nice work guys.

JJ#48Racing · 06-23-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCI CamaroFan

You claim this to be the most cost effective way to get a significant increase out of a Camaro SS, but I find that price tag still awfully high for what you are doing.

Can't you get it supercharged for only 2 grand more?

$2,500, and I don't think that includes upgrading the fuel system. And it certaintly doesn't include installation.

I agree though, I would have expected the total cost of what they did to be less. I'd like to see a break down of what each part costs. Still good work and impressive gains. I think I'll be happy with an intake/cam/exhaust camaro!

Hillbilly · 06-23-2009, 02:13 PM

What would the price be if I install it myself?

PQ · 06-23-2009, 02:48 PM

I live in Mobile Alabama. It would be a helluva trip but if you could gaurantee the work and the gains in some way I would certainly be interested. Had a GT 500 want to race but I'm not stupid.

kdoske · 06-23-2009, 03:40 PM

its great gains for N/A but the price will probably have to drop before you sell a ton more. You should offer a econo package with different headers then the kooks. I'm sure they are nice, and who knows maybe they are even given you some extra hp then the average bear, but them things are incredilbly expensive. Maybe you got a deal I don't know but the prices that were posted on this forum where insane.

Having said all that I can't wait till you get started on the l99 and get that VVT put to the test!

Great work!

Cessna510 · 06-23-2009, 03:45 PM

Good #'s!

Kirk@VectorMotorsports · 06-23-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCI CamaroFan

You claim this to be the most cost effective way to get a significant increase out of a Camaro SS, but I find that price tag still awfully high for what you are doing.

Can't you get it supercharged for only 2 grand more?

Last I checked the TVS2300 for the Camaro was $7500 installed plus the now unknown price to properly upgrade the fuel system.

The price does also include our ported LS3 intake manifold.

On top of that, you can't beat the sound of a cam in this new Camaro!!

2SSRS · 06-23-2009, 04:45 PM

So dos this car have kooks headers or ARH as per "ZZcamaro" http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26175

Quote:

ARH Long-Tubes Installed on LS3 with Factory Mufflers
We finished the exhaust install early this afternoon. It took a total of 3 hours with some goofing off and painting (we painted the mufflers flat black). I highly recommend painting the mufflers while you are working on this sytem. It really changes the look of this car!

Is it a deferent car?. Can you enlighten me.

ZZcamaro · 06-23-2009, 05:21 PM

My car has arh log tubes on it. The stage II package will include Kooks headers.
If you want to move up the arh system it can be done but will slightly raise the price.

Rob Vega · 06-23-2009, 05:22 PM

IM LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE V6 SO ARE THERE ANY AFTER MARKET MODS DONE AND HOW MANY HORSES CAN WE GET OUT OF IT.

coptzr · 06-23-2009, 05:41 PM

Whats the in/out time frame and how far backlogged are you guys???

UsedTaHaveA68 · 06-23-2009, 05:44 PM

Kooks headers system - 2400
Comp Pushrods - 150
PSI valve springs - 450
Rotofab CAI - 450
Camshaft (guessing) - 450
----------------------------
Total Parts -3900

Prices were taken from mfr's websites, except for PSI springs which didn't list them so I found them somewhere else, and the camshaft, but that's about avg for custom cams. So you're paying about 1,050 for labor (based on the 4950 price listed) which is VERY GOOD. 1000 bucks to have them install your headers, hang your exhaust, put on the intake... and oh yeah... take all the accessories off the front of your engine, drain the coolant, take the heads off, take the timing cover/chain off, take the old valve springs off, put the new ones in, take the old pushrods out, put new ones in, unbolt the engine from its mounts, lift it up a little to take the camshaft out (possibly - maybe not I don't know what's involved on the Camaros, just guessing), take the old cam out, put the new one in, make sure it's degreed right, put the heads back on, put the timing chain/cover ack on, torque everything up, re-install the accessories, put new coolant back in, and tune it. And you people are griping about price? Get over yourselves. I remember one guy was quoted by his dealer the price for installing the GMPP HOT cam was 2500. TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS to install a camshaft. No new valve springs. No new pushrods. No new headers or exhaust or anything like that. Pretty damn good I'd say. Nice job guys.

Sack Rat 2SS · 06-23-2009, 05:56 PM

UsedTaHaveA68 ---- You forgot that you have to recover the AC coolant and then recharge the system. Do not need to remove and replace the heads with the cam and spring change.

MyNewSolstice · 06-23-2009, 06:07 PM

is this vector motorsports with Chriss who tuned my Solstice?

Croathlete · 06-23-2009, 06:20 PM

Can't wait to see what you guys can do with the L99!

06-22-2009, 11:35 AM	#1
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,708	VECTOR Motorsports / ZZ Motorsports Stage II Camaro Package Completed !! Vector Motorsports in Clinton Township, Michigan....in conjunction with ZZ Motorsports in Pittsburgh, PA, has completed development and testing of their first 2010 Camaro Stage II system. The Stage II kit was developed to offer LS3 owners a cost effective way to dramatically increase HP and Torque, while maintaining the streetability of daily driver. The Stage II kit includes: Custom Grind Billet Core Stage II Camshaft Comp Pushrods PSI Valve Springs Custom Ported Intake Manifold Rotofab Cold Air Intake 1 3/4 Kooks Headers (your choice of Catted or Offroad X-pipe) As shown below, Dyno Testing proved a 106 HP increase at the rear wheels!! And drastically increased Torque across the RPM range. All testing and tuning was done on Vector's in house Mustang Dyno The full kit is priced VERY competitively, and is the best "bang for your buck" available for the Camaro. If you want to see what this car can do, here is a brief look at a video of the car while tuning on the dyno: Here is a copy of the dyno results: This is a copy of detailed dyno results, and is highlighted with notes which show the improvement over the baseline numbers: Yes that is right, this includes a Roto-Fab intake...The very first Roto-Fab CAI to be dynoed was tested on this car. Roto-Fab will have the pleasure of giving you those results, but let's just say it worked awesome, looked amazing, and fit perfectly! For those of you who want to hear what this cam sounds like....here you go!! This is with the factory mufflers still installed... We did test the car with other muffler combinations, and the factory mufflers will support this power without any modifications, if you want a different sound you can change the mufflers, but the HP gains remained the same. Here are some other photos from the build and testing phase of this project: From being the owner of the first car to have this package installed , I can say it runs, sounds, and looks amazing!!! At car cruises people flock to this car and love the sound. On my 5 hour trip home from the install I average 23.6 MPG all the way across the state of Ohio!! That is amazing when you consider the power that this car is producing! A huge thanks goes out the Vector Motorsports for getting this project completed so quickly, and getting it out there so other LS3 owners can reliably add power to their vehicles. Others may try to copy this package, but the results speak for themselves!! Vector and ZZ Motorsports have hit a homerun on this package, and we think the Camaro public will agree! If you have any questions regarding this package, pricing, or installation you can contact Kirk at Vector Motorsports or Mark at ZZ motorsports. Last edited by ZZcamaro; 06-24-2009 at 08:46 AM.

06-22-2009, 02:36 PM	#2
Andro NOICE!!! ™ Drives: Force Fed 427 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GOT BOOST? Posts: 5,224 View My Garage	Nice! How much? __________________

06-22-2009, 08:09 PM	#7
pharmd Master of Medicine Drives: 2012 VW GTI, 2007 TBSS, 2002 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Morehead, Kentucky Posts: 782	Nice work guys...can't wait to see track times, once the weather is better. __________________

06-23-2009, 01:58 PM	#11
GTAHVIT One Lucky Guy. Drives: #22 Tom Henry Racing 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,313 View My Garage	Nice work guys. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

06-23-2009, 02:13 PM	#13
Hillbilly Rider of the short BUS Drives: Ukon/F350(work)/Intruder800 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London, KY Posts: 265	What would the price be if I install it myself? __________________ SIM with CGM rallies

06-22-2009, 05:08 PM	#4
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 804	Something is not correct in the first post. The dyno run for TEST was done before the BASE run. How can that happen. Also early in the AM unless Vector works at night. Whasup?? __________________ ADM built Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 1.9 L, ZL-1 Blower, ADM LSA Heads CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, ADM Dual Fuel Delivery ADM/LPE Dual-Disc Clutch, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

06-22-2009, 06:56 PM	#5
1BadaSS Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS 6spd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 326	would also like to know how much for the package!

06-23-2009, 01:56 PM	#10
meissen Founder - Michigan FBody Drives: 1994 Camaro LT1, 2012 Camaro LFX Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chesterfield Twp, MI Posts: 2,006	Steve's one of the best tuners around - Cheers to Vector Motorsports and ZZ Motorsports for an awesome package offer!

06-23-2009, 02:48 PM	#14
PQ Drives a Maro Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 35,538 View My Garage	I live in Mobile Alabama. It would be a helluva trip but if you could gaurantee the work and the gains in some way I would certainly be interested. Had a GT 500 want to race but I'm not stupid. __________________ PEDDERS NO BULL/BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet.................................................. .....

06-23-2009, 03:40 PM	#15
kdoske Waiting For My 1SS/RS SIM Drives: Sold My Lancer, now carless :/ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: louisiana Posts: 952	its great gains for N/A but the price will probably have to drop before you sell a ton more. You should offer a econo package with different headers then the kooks. I'm sure they are nice, and who knows maybe they are even given you some extra hp then the average bear, but them things are incredilbly expensive. Maybe you got a deal I don't know but the prices that were posted on this forum where insane. Having said all that I can't wait till you get started on the l99 and get that VVT put to the test! Great work! __________________ Order# NJPW8K 1SS/RS SIM Black Interior 1100 (original order date): 04/16/09 2000 (dealer received allocation): 2500 (order preferenced): 3000 (accepted to production): 3300 (scheduled for prod): 3400 (broadcast): 3800 (produced): 4000/4B00 (available to ship/bayed): 4200 (shipped): 4300 (intermediate, may be multiple):

06-23-2009, 03:45 PM	#16
Cessna510 Gm loyalist Drives: 04 z71 tahoe\99 SS m6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Baxter Springs Ks Posts: 362	Good #'s! __________________

06-23-2009, 05:21 PM	#19
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,708	My car has arh log tubes on it. The stage II package will include Kooks headers. If you want to move up the arh system it can be done but will slightly raise the price.

06-23-2009, 05:22 PM	#20
Rob Vega Drives: 94 SunBird w/350Camaro engine Join Date: May 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 18	IM LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE V6 SO ARE THERE ANY AFTER MARKET MODS DONE AND HOW MANY HORSES CAN WE GET OUT OF IT. __________________ HOW CAN YOU FINALLY GET YOUR DREAM CAR WHEN WHERE YOU LIVE THE BASE LS COSTS $49,995 AND THE 1LT COSTS $59,995? SO DEPRESSING :bangdesk:

06-23-2009, 05:41 PM	#21
coptzr Resistance is futile Drives: Anything thats fast Join Date: May 2009 Location: Big Rapids,MI Posts: 271	Whats the in/out time frame and how far backlogged are you guys??? __________________ Modifications (so far) Edelbrock E-Force supercharger JRE fuel system upgrade Edelbrock CAI VMS stage 2.5 cam kit SLP LT's w/cat's NPP muffler's w/x-pipe Tuned at Vector Motorsports 606 RWHP and 567 RWT Black 1LE 10 spokes. Hotchkis drop springs.

06-23-2009, 05:44 PM	#22
UsedTaHaveA68 Drives: Hyundai Sonata Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 497	Kooks headers system - 2400 Comp Pushrods - 150 PSI valve springs - 450 Rotofab CAI - 450 Camshaft (guessing) - 450 ---------------------------- Total Parts -3900 Prices were taken from mfr's websites, except for PSI springs which didn't list them so I found them somewhere else, and the camshaft, but that's about avg for custom cams. So you're paying about 1,050 for labor (based on the 4950 price listed) which is VERY GOOD. 1000 bucks to have them install your headers, hang your exhaust, put on the intake... and oh yeah... take all the accessories off the front of your engine, drain the coolant, take the heads off, take the timing cover/chain off, take the old valve springs off, put the new ones in, take the old pushrods out, put new ones in, unbolt the engine from its mounts, lift it up a little to take the camshaft out (possibly - maybe not I don't know what's involved on the Camaros, just guessing), take the old cam out, put the new one in, make sure it's degreed right, put the heads back on, put the timing chain/cover ack on, torque everything up, re-install the accessories, put new coolant back in, and tune it. And you people are griping about price? Get over yourselves. I remember one guy was quoted by his dealer the price for installing the GMPP HOT cam was 2500. TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS to install a camshaft. No new valve springs. No new pushrods. No new headers or exhaust or anything like that. Pretty damn good I'd say. Nice job guys.

06-23-2009, 05:56 PM	#23
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 804	UsedTaHaveA68 ---- You forgot that you have to recover the AC coolant and then recharge the system. Do not need to remove and replace the heads with the cam and spring change. __________________ ADM built Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 1.9 L, ZL-1 Blower, ADM LSA Heads CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, ADM Dual Fuel Delivery ADM/LPE Dual-Disc Clutch, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

06-23-2009, 06:07 PM	#24
MyNewSolstice Drives: 06 Solstice Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 349 View My Garage	is this vector motorsports with Chriss who tuned my Solstice?

06-23-2009, 06:20 PM	#25
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