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Old 04-09-2013, 12:27 PM   #1
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Thinking about putting in a SC

So I have no clue about this AT ALL!

I don't want to go off the top crazy, just add a SC. Besides the SC what else would be needed? Also is there their scheduled maintenance on a SC? And what is the preferred brand?
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If you want OEM style go with the Magnacharger, the maintenance interval is 100k miles. It will be a nice power increase and will be the most fun on the street too.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:43 PM   #3
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If you want OEM style go with the Magnacharger, the maintenance interval is 100k miles. It will be a nice power increase and will be the most fun on the street too.
That is the one a was actually looking at, allthough a bit more then I was looking to spend but not out of the question. I was also looking at this, any opinions on this one:

http://www.floridaspeedandpower.com/...amaro-ls3-l99/
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From what I've seen, $6000-$7000 is about the going price for all of the available systems. There are no cheap systems out there other than used.

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That is the one a was actually looking at, allthough a bit more then I was looking to spend but not out of the question. I was also looking at this, any opinions on this one:

http://www.floridaspeedandpower.com/...amaro-ls3-l99/
Ive got that kit.. love it! nice gain and you can still drive it as a normal car under boost. Everything needed comes in the kit, I did change out the ngk sparkplugs for some acdelco zr1 plugs cause I dont really like ngk
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:02 PM   #6
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From what I've seen, $6000-$7000 is about the going price for all of the available systems. There are no cheap systems out there other than used.

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Yea, I was hoping to get one under 7k, ill just expand my budget a bit.

So with magnacharger, nothing else is "needed" correct?


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That is the one a was actually looking at, allthough a bit more then I was looking to spend but not out of the question. I was also looking at this, any opinions on this one:

http://www.floridaspeedandpower.com/...amaro-ls3-l99/
This my .02 on this one. First there are two great things here, the first is the kit and the second is Matt @ FSP who you'd be buying from. The centri blower won't make as much power down low as the maggie but its easier on your drivetrain since you won't make tire shredding tq down low. The ECS Kit is truly awesome because it gives you tons of room to grow. I made 844whp just on the BASE kit. Granted at that power you'll need a dual-pump and bigger injectors for sure. Because that was too much power for me daily ECS has a restrictor plate in the blow which limits power/boost while maintaining down low tq for a centri. By doing that I was able to dial it back and make 750whp on a ZL1 Pump, ADM FPCM, BAP. Nothing else did I change from the base kit. What I'm getting at here is you can make great power and then LOTS of power and have to upgrade pretty much not much at all. Your gonna spend a lot of money to even try and get a maggie to make 800whp+

Matt worked at ECS so he knows the kit inside and out and is one of the most knowledgeable people I have ever talked to. So my vote is for the ECS kit. If want to see some dyno graphs of my setup I'd be happy to share, just PM me.
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Good deal on a used ECS kit here ^
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let me add to the above. a Used kit from Matt(florida speed and power) will be a fully operational kit. He will not allow any bad/warn parts go out. Best vendor ive worked with in my quest to spend $40k in upgrades.

hell, he was the first person i reached out to for my GT500 also.. lol
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You and I in the same boat... I can get you an exceptional installer in Sanford who works dirt cheap. Did my cam swap...

Honestly though, I would project another 1k in small preventative parts that would need to be purchased as well. Everytime I have done a big install, I find myself purchasing additional stuff to make that modification have a bit more reliability. Not to mention you will probably dump 500-1k in labor costs even at the cheapest place. Project yourself at 8.5-9k. If you are doing your own install ..still project it at 8.

I will tell you the power adder of the cam wasn't as much as SC obviously... but when you couple that with the sound. I cam glad I did the cam first. That totalled me out at only 4.5-4.7k for everything including LS3 conversion, dyno, install, new lifters, etc etc

If you plan on selling this thing in 3-5 years, then used parts shouldn't hurt. I plan on keeping this car through generations.. cannot bring myself to do anything used.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:22 PM   #12
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You and I in the same boat... I can get you an exceptional installer in Sanford who works dirt cheap. Did my cam swap...

Honestly though, I would project another 1k in small preventative parts that would need to be purchased as well. Everytime I have done a big install, I find myself purchasing additional stuff to make that modification have a bit more reliability. Not to mention you will probably dump 500-1k in labor costs even at the cheapest place. Project yourself at 8.5-9k. If you are doing your own install ..still project it at 8.

I will tell you the power adder of the cam wasn't as much as SC obviously... but when you couple that with the sound. I cam glad I did the cam first. That totalled me out at only 4.5-4.7k for everything including LS3 conversion, dyno, install, new lifters, etc etc

If you plan on selling this thing in 3-5 years, then used parts shouldn't hurt. I plan on keeping this car through generations.. cannot bring myself to do anything used.
I remember hearing your car last year at the rally, it sounded great. What is the purpose of a cam and are there any down sides?

Preferably I'd like to do everything at once.
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I'm considering an SC as well and what I'm finding is that the SS suspension is not even close to being able to handle that kind of power. I've got bolt-ons and a cam and with around 460rwhp my car is like a wet noodle under full throttle. You add another 250hp and things will get interesting. So, when you mention, "what else do I need" you need to get serious about suspension upgrades, mainly to the rear cradle. Another 2k to 3k to do it right.

I'm hoping to hear from some of the others who have experience here to chime in..
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:03 PM   #15
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I'm considering an SC as well and what I'm finding is that the SS suspension is not even close to being able to handle that kind of power. I've got bolt-ons and a cam and with around 460rwhp my car is like a wet noodle under full throttle. You add another 250hp and things will get interesting. So, when you mention, "what else do I need" you need to get serious about suspension upgrades, mainly to the rear cradle. Another 2k to 3k to do it right.

I'm hoping to hear from some of the others who have experience here to chime in..
Great info! I know the 2013 suspension is a bit different but ill look into that.


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So I have no clue about this AT ALL!

I don't want to go off the top crazy, just add a SC. Besides the SC what else would be needed? Also is there their scheduled maintenance on a SC? And what is the preferred brand?
How do you use the car, is it a cruiser or something that you race? The big consensus here is to go centri s/c for cars that see the strip a lot, and roots type for street cars.

I'm a big fan of roots type (that's your KB, maggie, whipple) for either situation though. I have a TVS 2300 (magnacharger) on my own car - with a cam, heads and headers it makes 700rwhp and is still just as driveable as when it was stock (ok, so you have to be careful when you're getting on it because it will get away from you...lol).

If you purchase the magnacharger kit you don't NEED anything else...but, a few little mods go along way to make more power. It just depends on what your goals are. I like an intake at the very least to go along with the blower. If the car is stock otherwise you will be fine with the 52# injectors they supply and the stock fuel pump.

The maggies come with handhelds with a base file from magnacharger, I would flash that just to get yourself going, and then have it professionally dyno tuned. Not only is it a good idea to dyno it to make sure your AFR is straightened out and it's not knocking, but, we almost always can pick up a solid 40+hp over what the handheld comes with. Much better driveability as well.



Let me know if you have any other questions. We install a ton of these here! Only maintenance on the maggie is to change the blower oil at 100k.
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I'm considering an SC as well and what I'm finding is that the SS suspension is not even close to being able to handle that kind of power. I've got bolt-ons and a cam and with around 460rwhp my car is like a wet noodle under full throttle. You add another 250hp and things will get interesting. So, when you mention, "what else do I need" you need to get serious about suspension upgrades, mainly to the rear cradle. Another 2k to 3k to do it right.

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try investing in tires lol :P
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CAI, catback & ported TB, that's it.


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CAI, catback & ported TB, that's it.


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Perfect for a TVS2300 install!

Grab a buddy and some beer. Most incredible feeling is poppin' the hood and saying 'I DID THAT!'
Got to agree with that, I put on a ecs kit but.. like that feeling when someone askes who did the work and I tell them I did.. Also when I had the car towed to lethal performance for dyno tune and I come back to hear how good I did on the install
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Got to agree with that, I put on a ecs kit but.. like that feeling when someone askes who did the work and I tell them I did.. Also when I had the car towed to lethal performance for dyno tune and I come back to hear how good I did on the install
Good work right there! I know that sense of pride as well, and there is no better feeling of accomplishment!
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I'm headed for an ECS kit myself that is what my cam and heads and intake were already prepped for.

I'm wondering though.
How are so many people putting down such huge HP numbers on stock bottom ends?
I want to be at 700 or so with restrictor plate and meth.
I am told this is very very easy with my current setup.
but I am worried about the rods and pistons and even the valves at that HP range. I know the crank should be fine.

Mine is a 2013 not sure if any improvements have been made internally this year.
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