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Old 04-10-2013, 06:44 PM   #51
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Okay so we know it's been there for a commercial but do we have any laptimes of Milford? I have searched and I couldn't dig up a list Without knowing that it still doesn't help us much

And like I said before the 458 is actually fairly slower than most people think, its not even my main concern as a comparison car
Im sure many other cars have been there also. but to your point us unclean masses lol will never know which one and how fast they have ran the track. but its fun to speculate
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:48 PM   #52
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45th + 302+ Z/28 money= used slightly older 458?
Yes I'ved done derivatives or variances of that formula...
1 AMG or 1 M = 1 45th + 1 Boss... + eventually 1 Stingray or 1 Z/28
So a 458 or a 911 Turbo resides only in my dreams...
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:59 PM   #53
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so i just looked and yea not so much. i thought a used one would be like 185-200k. you could always sell what you got save for a while skip the vette/z/28 drive a beater for for the saving period and bam 458 lol
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You get what you pay for mine cost 65,000 w/options and gas guzzler tax.

So I noticed some do not own ZL1
BUT YET can speak on these .

GTR THE FASTEST CAR you have ever seen from a standing stop
NO QUESTION!!
And after Nissan does their new z car watch out Price will be lower than most.
This thing is turbo'd up to the max.
So lets not go there comparing super-cars to lets face it muscle cars.

And furthermore what about the new 4 cylinder Corvette.Its going to shake that motor a little going down the highway from the design.
Get your Vette Now!!!
LT1 is it that good?
What 4 cylinder corvette?
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What 4 cylinder corvette?
Think he's referring to LT-1 AFM...(manual and automatic trans)....
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You get what you pay for mine cost 65,000 w/options and gas guzzler tax.

So I noticed some do not own ZL1
BUT YET can speak on these .

GTR THE FASTEST CAR you have ever seen from a standing stop
NO QUESTION!!
And after Nissan does their new z car watch out Price will be lower than most.
This thing is turbo'd up to the max.
So lets not go there comparing super-cars to lets face it muscle cars.

And furthermore what about the new 4 cylinder Corvette.Its going to shake that motor a little going down the highway from the design.
Get your Vette Now!!!
LT1 is it that good?
370z is terrible track car, brakes go away after two laps. GT-R massive overheating problems after a few laps, turns into a rolling chicane. Starts dumping fuel/goes super-rich to save the engine, transmission overheats, go do some homework to find out what an ATF fluid change costs on a GT-R. Facts from track experience. Your track day is over when your car is broken.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #57
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I'd take a Ferrari 458 anytime anyday... but I'm dreamin... for mere mortals with a good paying job/career, a Z/28 is just fine & dandy.
If we were talking super cars 458 wouldn't even be on the table for me, not because its not a nice car but just because its not the best. Best looking perhaps but that is a matter of opinion. I can see the Z/28 coming out and being a good competitor to the 458 believe it or not.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:05 PM   #58
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You get what you pay for mine cost 65,000 w/options and gas guzzler tax.

So I noticed some do not own ZL1
BUT YET can speak on these .

GTR THE FASTEST CAR you have ever seen from a standing stop
NO QUESTION!!
And after Nissan does their new z car watch out Price will be lower than most.
This thing is turbo'd up to the max.
So lets not go there comparing super-cars to lets face it muscle cars.

And furthermore what about the new 4 cylinder Corvette.Its going to shake that motor a little going down the highway from the design.
Get your Vette Now!!!
LT1 is it that good?
GT-R is the fastest car to 60 maybe, but after that its down hill, stock to stock a ZR1 is a faster 1/4 miles car, faster 1 mile car, faster track car. Hands down. I like the GT-R but the Z series is just plain aweful when it comes to anything other than for show, and maybe drifting. A stock SS puts a 370 to shame, just better everything and the SS has a back seat.
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are they still going to make zl1?
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:42 PM   #60
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Okay so we know it's been there for a commercial but do we have any laptimes of Milford? I have searched and I couldn't dig up a list Without knowing that it still doesn't help us much

And like I said before the 458 is actually fairly slower than most people think, its not even my main concern as a comparison car
Love people like this, yup your right it's slower then most people think hahahaha. I'd take my 458 anyday over my camaro and while I don't drive it as much, let's just say I've been right there on the tails of ZR1s. Curious to know your exprience with a 458 or if you just bench race. I like getting out in it every once and awhile and hauling ass with some friends.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:18 AM   #63
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Love people like this, yup your right it's slower then most people think hahahaha. I'd take my 458 anyday over my camaro and while I don't drive it as much, let's just say I've been right there on the tails of ZR1s. Curious to know your exprience with a 458 or if you just bench race. I like getting out in it every once and awhile and hauling ass with some friends.
The bold is my point, Ferrari drivers don't track the car as much as I think it should be.
I even mentioned maybe its because people don't track them as much, the fact is its either slower than it should be or it doesn't get the track time it should. But its laptimes don't represent that of what I think the Ferrari name should It is slower than the ZR1 the Viper the MP4 the GT-R and the Aventador. I love the looks and I didn't say it was an aweful car, but i wouldn't be my first pick of super cars

and I am a college engineering student no shit I don't own one. But being the car that it is I think it should put a ZR1 to shame, and it doesn't.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:29 PM   #64
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You guys are out of your minds if you seriously think this tank can take down a Z06.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:31 AM   #66
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You guys are out of your minds if you seriously think this tank can take down a Z06.
I think it'd have a good chance on a smaller track but not a chance on something like the nurburgring, it'd be hell of a lot harder
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Was wondering if you guys think we will see any more, different track-tests, results, whatever, in the near future before the car is released...or is this one track, three-seconds better teaser all we'll see?....Thanks....
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I think it'd have a good chance on a smaller track but not a chance on something like the nurburgring, it'd be hell of a lot harder
I agree... on a small technical track I think it will clearly outshine many others however on a lengthy high-speed circuit, those exotics beasts will still be a tough challenge for the Z/28 to significantly surpass. We'll see...
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I think it'd have a good chance on a smaller track but not a chance on something like the nurburgring, it'd be hell of a lot harder
The same motor in a car about 800 pounds lighter and with Cup Tires and you think it has a chance? It really doesn't matter how long the track is, you can't make a car with the same power but an 800 pound weight disadvantage win.

It doesn't work from a bench racing standpoint and it certainly doesn't work from a corporate financial standpoint. There is no way Chevy is going to beat itself with a car that is that much cheaper.

Sorry, I know this is a Camaro site, but we gotta step into realityland a bit here folks.
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The same motor in a car about 800 pounds lighter and with Cup Tires and you think it has a chance? It really doesn't matter how long the track is, you can't make a car with the same power but an 800 pound weight disadvantage win.

It doesn't work from a bench racing standpoint and it certainly doesn't work from a corporate financial standpoint. There is no way Chevy is going to beat itself with a car that is that much cheaper.

Sorry, I know this is a Camaro site, but we gotta step into realityland a bit here folks.
your assumption is valid assuming that the Z07 package is on the Z06. what happens without it may be a different story. i think that it would be a good thing for chevy if the Z/28 could beat a stock no options Z06 but fall just short of beating a Z06 with the Z07 package
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I think my assumption is pretty valid even without the Z07 package..... Al O's simulator has been pretty off the mark a few times.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:18 PM   #72
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The same motor in a car about 800 pounds lighter and with Cup Tires and you think it has a chance? It really doesn't matter how long the track is, you can't make a car with the same power but an 800 pound weight disadvantage win.

It doesn't work from a bench racing standpoint and it certainly doesn't work from a corporate financial standpoint. There is no way Chevy is going to beat itself with a car that is that much cheaper.

Sorry, I know this is a Camaro site, but we gotta step into realityland a bit here folks.
The ZL1 has ran faster around VIR than the Z06/Z07 so I think it is quite easily possible, even if the Vette wasn't on its best that is still interesting and we know the Z/28 will be hella faster. And weight/power is not the only factor in handling it is alot more technical than that.
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I think most are stretching.
On high speed tracks, weight starts to matter less and power and aero become more important. Cars like the 458 and new GTR have a lot more power.
The tires will help a lot, but don't forget lighter cars do better on short-medium tracks.
The gap on the ring is likely to be less than 10 seconds.
It will not beat a sticky tire ZO6, but I'm not sure about the 800lbs.
I thought the z28 was only 3800, and I didn't think the ZO6 was 3000.
It's going to be an interesting car to benchmark though.
The GT500 will kill it on the street, but will get killed by it on short-medium tracks. It will be a bunch more than a GT500 anyway, so those guys will claim its a slow drag car for big money.
So glad GM did it though.
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