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Old 04-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #57
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I just want loud so I'm doing long tubes .. I have straight pipes just Dk kno if I should go catless or not and get an x pipe
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:27 PM   #58
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ok , if i found some work shop doing headers for cars how i know they use a good stansteel or cheep ? ok sure they gonna say we use it !!
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:36 PM   #59
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Do they build headers or just sell and install them? If they sell them, ask what brand. If it is an unknown brand, ask them what grade of stainless steel are they built from. If the shop builds them, ask them what grade of stainless they use. Compare what you are told to the OP.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:54 PM   #60
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they build headers , as i know the best grade is 409 , i'll ask them

but if i see this steel can i know wich grade it's like shape or thickness of the piece ?
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No...304 is the preferred for headers. The stainless steel is usually stamped with the grade. You could ask to see a piece that has the stamping. Or, you could ask for a copy of their receiving document that lists what they were sold (Not sure if they will let you see that). There are other ways such as chemical tests, magnets (it won't stick to most 304 although it is not absolute), or lab certification test reports for the stainless that is being provided to the shop by their vendor.

Just curious, if you have to go to that extent to make sure they are using the right stainless, why do you trust them to build your headers???
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:00 PM   #62
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Got a price for ARH catless with an x pipe and gt55 spark plugs and a dyno.... For 3,050 is that a good price ???
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:00 PM   #63
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I already have straight pipes
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Full header and exhaust system? What size primaries? Installed? How many dyno pulls?
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:16 PM   #65
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Full header and exhaust system? What size primaries? Installed? How many dyno pulls?
It's 1 n 7/8 just the long tubes and x pipe then you dyno it to tune it basically
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No...304 is the preferred for headers. The stainless steel is usually stamped with the grade. You could ask to see a piece that has the stamping. Or, you could ask for a copy of their receiving document that lists what they were sold (Not sure if they will let you see that). There are other ways such as chemical tests, magnets (it won't stick to most 304 although it is not absolute), or lab certification test reports for the stainless that is being provided to the shop by their vendor.

Just curious, if you have to go to that extent to make sure they are using the right stainless, why do you trust them to build your headers???
sorry yah 304 i mean , i have headers but just i'm asking for experince , it's good to know this info.. thanks
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Great information and I cannot wait to see the stepped information. I went with the JBA 1 7/8" Stainless & Ceramic Coated Long Tubes and they also have a "MERGE SPIKE". I paid $800.00 for the headers and mids shipped and it was the best deal on the market at the time. I have used JBA in the past with NO issues and the Camaro headers have been great.
Hey where did u but them that cheap? I've looked and the cheapest I found was like 1k
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It's 1 n 7/8 just the long tubes and x pipe then you dyno it to tune it basically
The way ARH sell them on their site is a full system with an X-pipe. The options are: with or without cats; then with or without mufflers. So, you have straight pipes (no cats). That system, without mufflers, lists for $1,775. If you get mufflers, the price is $2,650. Are you getting mufflers?

Not sure what those plugs cost but let's just toss in another $80

Three dyno pulls....a conservative $200

Typical header installation cost about $250-$300

What I come up with is:
No mufflers; about $2,350
Mufflers; about $3,200

So, if you are getting mufflers, $3,050 sounds reasonable. If you are not getting mufflers.....not so much. If you could find out what they are selling the header & exhaust system for by itself, you could get a better idea if their price is good.

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Old 04-24-2013, 09:28 AM   #70
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The way ARH sell them on their site is a full system with an X-pipe. The options are: with or without cats; then with or without mufflers. So, you have straight pipes (no cats). That system, without mufflers, lists for $1,775. If you get mufflers, the price is $2,650. Are you getting mufflers?

Not sure what those plugs cost but let's just toss in another $80

Three dyno pulls....a conservative $200

Typical header installation cost about $250-$300

What I come up with is:
No mufflers; about $2,350
Mufflers; about $3,200

So, if you are getting mufflers, $3,050 sounds reasonable. If you are not getting mufflers.....not so much. If you could find out what they are selling the header & exhaust system for by itself, you could get a better idea if their price is good.

Hope this helps.
I went down to tune time in lake wood here's the print out below .. I already have straight pipes from my o2 sensor back so all I need is the long tubes with no cats and then an x pipes then they are putting gt55 sparks in .... For 3k
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