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Old 04-24-2013, 08:59 AM   #69
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It's 1 n 7/8 just the long tubes and x pipe then you dyno it to tune it basically
The way ARH sell them on their site is a full system with an X-pipe. The options are: with or without cats; then with or without mufflers. So, you have straight pipes (no cats). That system, without mufflers, lists for $1,775. If you get mufflers, the price is $2,650. Are you getting mufflers?

Not sure what those plugs cost but let's just toss in another $80

Three dyno pulls....a conservative $200

Typical header installation cost about $250-$300

What I come up with is:
No mufflers; about $2,350
Mufflers; about $3,200

So, if you are getting mufflers, $3,050 sounds reasonable. If you are not getting mufflers.....not so much. If you could find out what they are selling the header & exhaust system for by itself, you could get a better idea if their price is good.

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Old 04-24-2013, 10:28 AM   #70
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The way ARH sell them on their site is a full system with an X-pipe. The options are: with or without cats; then with or without mufflers. So, you have straight pipes (no cats). That system, without mufflers, lists for $1,775. If you get mufflers, the price is $2,650. Are you getting mufflers?

Not sure what those plugs cost but let's just toss in another $80

Three dyno pulls....a conservative $200

Typical header installation cost about $250-$300

What I come up with is:
No mufflers; about $2,350
Mufflers; about $3,200

So, if you are getting mufflers, $3,050 sounds reasonable. If you are not getting mufflers.....not so much. If you could find out what they are selling the header & exhaust system for by itself, you could get a better idea if their price is good.

Hope this helps.
I went down to tune time in lake wood here's the print out below .. I already have straight pipes from my o2 sensor back so all I need is the long tubes with no cats and then an x pipes then they are putting gt55 sparks in .... For 3k
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:40 AM   #71
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Can't wait for the stepped header thread. Great topic.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:28 AM   #72
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Can't wait for the stepped header thread. Great topic.
Here it is http://youtu.be/ASLpy00BZrw
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:31 AM   #73
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I went down to tune time in lake wood here's the print out below .. I already have straight pipes from my o2 sensor back so all I need is the long tubes with no cats and then an x pipes then they are putting gt55 sparks in .... For 3k
From the price on the headers and exhaust it doesn't look like they are giving you a good price but I have not priced ARH in that much detail. Maybe the prices from ARH are not flexible? I was way off on the plugs (they are very inexpensive) but I wouldn't use them. I would stick with the AC Delco. I think they could work with you on the labor a bit since you are getting so much done. It just looks like rack-rate (high) pricing across the board. I am not saying they are not worth it, it just seems that way. Good luck!
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:44 AM   #74
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From the price on the headers and exhaust it doesn't look like they are giving you a good price but I have not priced ARH in that much detail. Maybe the prices from ARH are not flexible? I was way off on the plugs (they are very inexpensive) but I wouldn't use them. I would stick with the AC Delco. I think they could work with you on the labor a bit since you are getting so much done. It just looks like rack-rate (high) pricing across the board. I am not saying they are not worth it, it just seems that way. Good luck!
Yea it's one of things all nice cars in the shop all serious builds... And you wonder why then the bill comes in I don't know I feel like at least I kno it's done right but I have a lot of other prices from other ppl half of that amount
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:18 PM   #75
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Can't wait for the stepped header thread. Great topic.
It is in the works along with many others.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #76
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Subscribed I need this thanks chase gunna read this as soon as I get a chance
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Great write up chase and everyone that added info thank you, helped me ALOT with choosing what I want and need
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:26 PM   #78
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Great write up chase and everyone that added info thank you, helped me ALOT with choosing what I want and need
Thank you. Glad you found it helpful. If you have any other questions don't hesitate to hit me up.
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I have 2011 ls3 which im looking to buy headers but there are a lot of compenys and i don't know which one i should go with for example LG pro headers or american racing which one is better or gets more power ?
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I have 2011 ls3 which im looking to buy headers but there are a lot of compenys and i don't know which one i should go with for example LG pro headers or american racing which one is better or gets more power ?
That is what the information in the opening post is all about. Give it a look.
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I'm so glad I came across this post, I was thinking about this subject for the last two days. I was curious as too how much science was involved in headers and what specifically I needed to look for. Thanks Chase !
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:38 AM   #82
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I'm so glad I came across this post, I was thinking about this subject for the last two days. I was curious as too how much science was involved in headers and what specifically I needed to look for. Thanks Chase !
I am glad that it was helpful. Thread or not, feel free to hit me up anytime you have questions. That is what I am here for.
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So does anyone have any info or experience with the Borla headers? Was curious is they used the merge spike method or not ?
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So does anyone have any info or experience with the Borla headers? Was curious is they used the merge spike method or not ?
They do not have merge spikes and they do not include cats or off road pipes. Borla makes great cat and axle backs but you can get a much better bang for your buck with any of the top tier brands when it comes to headers.
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