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Old 04-13-2013, 09:36 PM   #35
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Comparing the 1LE to the ZL1 is comparing apples to oranges. Theres no comparison the ZL1 is on a different level in performance handiling and ride quality at 57K you get what you pay for period.. The magnetic shocks are on pare with the 458 Italia. Having said that If I wanted a ZL1 i would of bought one . But I love my 1LE at $38,800 theres nothing out there at THAT PRICE that compares and trust me I could buy any car out there but I love a bargin! Just my two cents!
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:48 PM   #36
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^^ This.

If the 1LE was an option when I ordered my ZL1 I would have had to think very hard about it. It is the best bang for the buck model in the line.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:57 PM   #37
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^^ This.

If the 1LE was an option when I ordered my ZL1 I would have had to think very hard about it. It is the best bang for the buck model in the line.
After ordering my 1LE , a Black ZL1 came in but it didnt have the right options and it didnt have the new mylink with navigation or I would have pulled the trigger . Anyway after seeing the ZL1 in person I cried for a week then got over it! The ZL1 is that awesome and I would take one over the stripped Z28 anyday anytime!
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:06 PM   #38
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I'm thinking hard about adding a Z/28 to the stable but it is likely going to be a very difficult car to get. I may have to wait this one out a bit instead of trying to be first in line like I did with the ZL1.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:25 PM   #39
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I'm in No way saying the ZL1 is less of a car then the 1LE ...I actually love the Z very very much.
Think my posts just got blown way out of wack. I was coming across rude to blueclyde but simply calling him old man because he was referring to me as young man... so I was just trying to be funny!
To the original topic I do stand behind my original posts though, I do feel you can make the 1LE as good as a stock Z for a lot cheaper then what the stock Z cost, whether it be in the twistys or on the drag strip..

With all that said I apologize to blueclyde for feeling I was being harsh but it was all in good fun and my opinion is my own...
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:35 PM   #40
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No harm no foul. Im not that old, only 48. You're passionate about ride. I dig that. It's a great car, no doubt.

Do yourself a favor. Read up on everything that comes in the ZL1. Every major system in the car is beefier and more durable than the SS platform. Yes the 1LE has some ZL1 DNA but there is much it does not have. The ZL1 is totally bullet proof, transmission, clutch, rear diff, axles, brakes, coolers, etc. On top of that it has MRC suspension and PTM. The new Z/28 is going to be a total track monster. People are going to be shocked by how fast this car is going to lap a road course. The ZL1 will remain the highest HP most technologically advanced Camaro, it just will not be the fastest on the road course. The Z/28 will be the top of the food chain.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:38 PM   #41
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Please guys. Don't let the 1LE sub forum degrade. We've been trying to keep things civil in here. PM each other with your rants.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:49 PM   #42
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Please guys. Don't let the 1LE sub forum degrade. We've been trying to keep things civil in here. PM each other with your rants.
Your a little late we made up already!!
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:48 AM   #43
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According to my service manager,whom i know and trust the Z/28 will be $69,900
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Your a little late we made up already!!
Whew. I'll try to pay more attention. Lol.
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:27 AM   #45
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According to my service manager,whom i know and trust the Z/28 will be $69,900
Jesus! That's a boat load of dough for a car without a radio. Who is the target market?
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:35 AM   #46
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Jesus! That's a boat load of dough for a car without a radio. Who is the target market?
Anyone with $69,900.
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No harm no foul. Im not that old, only 48. You're passionate about ride. I dig that. It's a great car, no doubt.

Do yourself a favor. Read up on everything that comes in the ZL1. Every major system in the car is beefier and more durable than the SS platform. Yes the 1LE has some ZL1 DNA but there is much it does not have. The ZL1 is totally bullet proof, transmission, clutch, rear diff, axles, brakes, coolers, etc. On top of that it has MRC suspension and PTM. The new Z/28 is going to be a total track monster. People are going to be shocked by how fast this car is going to lap a road course. The ZL1 will remain the highest HP most technologically advanced Camaro, it just will not be the fastest on the road course. The Z/28 will be the top of the food chain.
I hate to say it but I finally agree with you.

On a serious note though I could really care less what car is faster, there is always going to be something out there faster whether it's a production car or a modded one so what's the point... important thing is ya love what you have and I definitely definitely do!
But with that said who's to say that there won't be a ZL1 in my future, after all back when I was not so smart and was obsessed with mustang's I did own a 2010 Shelby GT500 so it's only right that now that I'm obsessed with camaro I mys well have the cream of the crop as well!!!
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:25 AM   #48
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Jesus! That's a boat load of dough for a car without a radio. Who is the target market?
I think it will have a radio bu just one speaker. The weight savings was in gutting the unnecessary speakers. One of the videos from the reveal mentioned his. We will have to wait and see.

Also, nobody knows the price yet but expect it to be high. It's got a low volume hand blt engine with custom exhaust manifolds and dry sump oil system. It's got exotic high $ brakes that are unmatched for this type of car. It also is going to have very specialized shocks and other suspension parts. All of this produced in low volume having to amortize all of GM's development and validation $$'s. Its going to be expensive and ther could likely be dealer markup on top.

The target market will be three groups I think. Group 1 are the hard core track guys that have been modifying their Camaros or simply waiting for this car. Groups 2 and 3 are kind of similar. They are the purist Z/28 people that have been waiting and waiting and the folks with money looking for a collector piece. This is not going to be an ordinary car.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:59 AM   #49
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I think I read in Chevy's press release that the Z28 will come with NO radio and only one speaker for the seatbelt chime which it has to have by law. Along with optional a/c Chevy is adding lightness where it can on a very focused track/street car.
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There are other ways to shave weight. Many an exotic car have solved performance, weight and luxury together.

Hope to see the Z/28 on Euro Top Gear n


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There are other ways to shave weight. Many an exotic car have solved performance, weight and luxury together.

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