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Old 04-14-2013, 02:03 PM   #51
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There are other ways to shave weight. Many an exotic car have solved performance, weight and luxury together.

Hope to see the Z/28 on Euro Top Gear n


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Old 04-14-2013, 02:11 PM   #52
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I started a thread, but don't think it was noticed much if at all. See Al O's comments regarding making available Z/28 parts.


"Do you think that soon after the production launch of the new Z/28 we will see parts and pieces of this car making its way onto scratch built cars, or in some way a program that might mimic in some way the COPO program?"

AO: “That’s a great question. We’ve had that debate all the way up through GM President Mark Reuss on whether or not we want to see clones driving around on the streets, and we’ve made the decision that since offering performance parts helps sell Camaros, we’ve got a great performance parts team now under Vice President, Performance Vehicles and Motorsports Jim Campbell, who is growing that very dynamic industry. “You will see Z/28 performance parts available for other Camaros and you know specifically as far as suspension, drift, and so on, you’re going to see those parts. Some of the parts are kind of integrated into the body but we definitely plan on allowing customers to have the opportunity to get ahold of some Z/28 parts for their car.”
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:18 PM   #53
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After reading some of the posts in the thread I need to clarify what I specifically meant about modding the 1LE. O, and I disagree with the assumption that the Z/28 will cost more than a ZL1. Unless , someone knows something I do not or the price has officially been release by Chevrolet. A person could spend roughly 10k with SLP and add a supercharged performance package with WARRANTY to the 1LE which if I were to do would put the cost of my 1LE to 50k give or take a few hundred bucks, and I would dare say would give a stock ZL1 at 60k a pair of taillights to chase around the track. Now...as for the thing I would take from the new Z/28 would be the brakes/wheels, factory CAI, and Recaro seats...other than that not much else other than the OBVIOUS LS7 427 but the HP and torque that would come from the SLP package would make it very, very formatible in competition with both the Z/28 and ZL1 and still keep the price within reach for us lighter in the pockets than the high rollers. I just hate seeing the Camaro go the way of the Corvette in so much as becoming a rich man's toy and not the poor guy's sports car. Anyhow, I just hope this comes across as opinion and not something that people take as definitive. We all know opinions change, but I'm just trying to point out like its already mentioned that we can do a lot more with the 1LE with less money and get SIMILIAR performance to the top dawgs which I personally believe is great for the Camaro altogether. Look forward to reading the comments of this addition to the thread! Take care and be safe!
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:02 PM   #54
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and I disagree with the assumption that the Z/28 will cost more than a ZL1. Unless , someone knows something I do not or the price has officially been release by Chevrolet. !
I mentioned on the first page...GM has already come out and said it will be slotted above the ZL1. This was not a guess or assumption.

Why:
Motor $7K more than LS3
CC Brakes: Oh lets say another $7K
Low production one-off wheels: min $1500 (over 1LE/ZL1)
Unique rear seat, wiring harness, rear glass....??? est...$1000

If you take a 1SS/1LE at $38K and add the $16,500 above you are already at $54,500. THIS DOES NOT include the one model only race suspension.

A good aftermarket set of strut/springs, bushings, sway bars will easily be $5,000. Now you are at $59,500 < More than base ZL1 (And GM has to warranty these so there is money in testing and validation)

Add a little fluff for unique low volume badges, seat stitching, and what ever else is specific to the Z/28 and you have easily cleared $60K.

I don't see how it could cost any less than the ZL1.....

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I mentioned on the first page...GM has already come out and said it will be slotted above the ZL1. This was not a guess or assumption.

Why:
Motor $7K more than LS3
CC Brakes: Oh lets say another $7K
Low production one-off wheels: min $1500 (over 1LE/ZL1)
Unique rear seat, wiring harness, rear glass....??? est...$1000

If you take a 1SS/1LE at $38K and add the $16,500 above you are already at $54,500. THIS DOES NOT include the one model only race suspension.

A good aftermarket set of strut/springs, bushings, sway bars will easily be $5,000. Now you are at $59,500 < More than base ZL1 (And GM has to warranty these so there is money in testing and validation)

Add a little fluff for unique low volume badges, seat stitching, and what ever else is specific to the Z/28 and you have easily cleared $60K.

I don't see how it could cost any less than the ZL1.....

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Hmmm...you have quite the rationale that I miss interpreted from the coverage of the vehicle from the auto show and the reveal here on the news reel. So are we to assume this is a limited special edition run for the Z/28 like the COPOs? Yes, that is a question because I had assumed they were trying to sell a lot of them not just a few like the 1LE and ZL1. Perhaps I was under the assumption as well that the Z/28 had always been the affordable Camaro because I owed a 81 and 94 but as they say those were Z28s and not Z/28. Well, I at least have in my mind what I pictured the Z28 would be in my 1LE with the exception of the LS7 and brakes/wheels. Perhaps the factory CAI, Recaro seats, and brakes/wheels will be compatible with the 2013 camaros for purchasing from GM. Anyhow, good points on the post and 'holy crap'. I think that if I had that kind of cash I would by the new corvette with some type of performance package. Camaro is not a poor man's sports car any longer.
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Hmmm...you have quite the rationale that I miss interpreted from the coverage of the vehicle from the auto show and the reveal here on the news reel. So are we to assume this is a limited special edition run for the Z/28 like the COPOs? Yes, that is a question because I had assumed they were trying to sell a lot of them not just a few like the 1LE and ZL1. Perhaps I was under the assumption as well that the Z/28 had always been the affordable Camaro because I owed a 81 and 94 but as they say those were Z28s and not Z/28. Well, I at least have in my mind what I pictured the Z28 would be in my 1LE with the exception of the LS7 and brakes/wheels. Perhaps the factory CAI, Recaro seats, and brakes/wheels will be compatible with the 2013 camaros for purchasing from GM. Anyhow, good points on the post and 'holy crap'. I think that if I had that kind of cash I would by the new corvette with some type of performance package. Camaro is not a poor man's sports car any longer.
I think any comparison between this Camaro Z/28 and its predecessors from the 80's or 90's is where the confusion comes in. Those were moderate street cars, whereas this 2014 version is more track car / race car than street car.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:18 PM   #57
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Hmmm...you have quite the rationale that I miss interpreted from the coverage of the vehicle from the auto show and the reveal here on the news reel. So are we to assume this is a limited special edition run for the Z/28 like the COPOs? .
Thanks....

I don't think it is going to be limited by GM like a COPO, only by the consumers that are willing to fork over the money for the car.

Think of how many GT500s and ZL1s that sell for $56k+ ...There are more than enough people willing to shell out that money to drive those....Yes, less creature comforts in a Z/28, but the money is out there in the world.

I look at the Z/28 as a one punch knockout to the SVT Team/Ford in the pony car battle that has left the 1/4 mile tracks and moved to the road course again.(history repeating itself).....The ZL1 left SVT scratching their heads and no one saw the Z/28 coming. Now they (SVT/FORD) are most likely scrambling to answer back!

It is a great time to be an auto enthusiast........if you can afford it!

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