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Old 08-02-2013, 01:29 PM   #341
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Enough power to get a 4300 lb car in the 9s.

again not saying it cant be done but let me know how long the 6L80 last at the track with over 800rwhp i dont mean 1 or 2 passes beat on and it wont last half a season and thats a long shot ..the 400 is a simple easy swap . can handle 1500 hp all day and drives on the street fine. The good thing about the AGP kit is you are covered, no matter how mild or wild you wanna get this kit can do it
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:51 PM   #342
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I really like this setup.. but I hate that I would lose my LT Headers to only put Stock manifolds back on.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:52 PM   #343
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again not saying it cant be done but let me know how long the 6L80 last at the track with over 800rwhp i dont mean 1 or 2 passes beat on and it wont last half a season and thats a long shot ..the 400 is a simple easy swap . can handle 1500 hp all day and drives on the street fine. The good thing about the AGP kit is you are covered, no matter how mild or wild you wanna get this kit can do it

Well, if someone wanted to make 450hp then that maybe too mild for it. But 550-1300rwhp, no problem.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:38 PM   #344
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Well, if someone wanted to make 450hp then that maybe too mild for it. But 550-1300rwhp, no problem.
pretty sure someone that only wanted to make 450hp wouldnt spent the coin to buy a turbo kit anyway , dont know what your point is .as I was referring to the post about the 6L80
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:19 PM   #345
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Caddys use 6L90s, not 6L80s so saying caddys can do it doesn't really apply. The 90 is noticeably stronger.
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What are the actual differences between the 80 and 90? Could an 80 be rebuilt to a 90?


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again not saying it cant be done but let me know how long the 6L80 last at the track with over 800rwhp i dont mean 1 or 2 passes beat on and it wont last half a season and thats a long shot ..the 400 is a simple easy swap . can handle 1500 hp all day and drives on the street fine. The good thing about the AGP kit is you are covered, no matter how mild or wild you wanna get this kit can do it
I'm not drag racer, so I have no need for it to last a season. I need it to last long enough for me to run a 9.99999 or better, then I'm done. I want to be able to turn the boost down and let my wife drive the car around town, or go on a road trip and still get decent highway mpg. Set the cruise control at 70-75 and get low to mid 20's. Need 6th gear to do that.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:05 PM   #346
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I really like this setup.. but I hate that I would lose my LT Headers to only put Stock manifolds back on.
It just makes sense to run headers, I wonder if short tube headers would work. Reduce weight, decipate heat faster, and more flow.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #347
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It just makes sense to run headers, I wonder if short tube headers would work. Reduce weight, decipate heat faster, and more flow.
With turbos, you don't want to dissipate too much heat. The stock LS3 manifolds flow very well.

That being said, you can use custom shorty headers but I am not sure the cost to benefit ratio would be worth it. I don't know if any off the shelf shorty headers will work. Unless you are going for a true max effort turbo build, stock manifolds are more than sufficient for 99.9% of the turbo builds on here.

You could always use your manifolds and then, if you aren't happy with the results, invest in a set of shorties.

I would think that AGP would offer an option of shorties if they thought it was worth it but again, they aren't necessarily marketing this towards the hardcore, every HP must be maximized, every thousandth counts crowd.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #348
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It just makes sense to run headers, I wonder if short tube headers would work. Reduce weight, decipate heat faster, and more flow.

Not on a turbo car
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:32 PM   #349
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With turbos, you don't want to dissipate too much heat. The stock LS3 manifolds flow very well.

That being said, you can use custom shorty headers but I am not sure the cost to benefit ratio would be worth it. I don't know if any off the shelf shorty headers will work. Unless you are going for a true max effort turbo build, stock manifolds are more than sufficient for 99.9% of the turbo builds on here.

You could always use your manifolds and then, if you aren't happy with the results, invest in a set of shorties.

I would think that AGP would offer an option of shorties if they thought it was worth it but again, they aren't necessarily marketing this towards the hardcore, every HP must be maximized, every thousandth counts crowd.
Thanks Blake, makes sense. I know guys a lot smarter than me have tried and tested all the options.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:48 PM   #350
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No reason a shortie wouldn't bolt on, I just wouldn't recommend it. Stock manifolds work great, are reliable, fit great, nice heat shielding, etc. If you get to the 1200+range and decide you want to try for more, then maybe you can swap to a ARH shortie.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:11 PM   #351
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Stock exhaust manifold + extrude hone + Swaintech white lightning = win.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #352
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[QUOTE=Unavowed;6850300]What are the actual differences between the 80 and 90? Could an 80 be rebuilt to a 90?



90 is a little longer, has 6 planetary gears instead of 4, and has 1 extra clutch in each pack. There are other differences but that's all I remember right off. You can add clutches to the 80 to beef it up, but you can also add extra clutches to the 90 and make it ever tougher.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:15 PM   #353
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There is two of us in this thread with TH400's that would can use them as DD's... I have no problem driving the shop car with the full Farks cage and chute to and from my house and Walmart.. Plenty of room behind the rollcage for groceries, and the dry cleaning can hang too. The real laundry is on the back of the car.
Yep th400 here and i run that sucker on the interstate also
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:07 PM   #354
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Very interested! I haven't seen a turbo kit that looks this good yet! Any idea how far I can safely push a stock bottom end and manual trans with a clutch already capable of holding 800 ft lbs? Drive line is already done with Gforce 9 in.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:05 AM   #355
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A lot of people have ran ls3s into the 800 range on good gas or meth.
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A lot of people have ran ls3s into the 800 range on good gas or meth.
Yeah that might be a bit extreme for me, I'm looking at doing low to mid 600's at the tire. Nothing crazy.....yet! Lol
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:08 PM   #357
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This is why I havent done anything to my camaro yet besides a catback. I was getting ready for my first stage cam, DOD delete, headers, intake. Then second stage was a lysholm SC later on. But this looks promising and I wouldn't have to be selling parts I already bought.
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