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Old 04-19-2013, 12:02 PM   #15
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This is the setup I have and with a good tune is perfectly safe. All things being relative.
OP talked about using a canned tune, not a custom tune till the bigger shot. I'll agree that with a good tune, it should be fine. But I like having some safe guards to help as much as possible.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:17 PM   #16
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Here is the bottle in the trunk, Just put it in. Thanks for the replies. I know and feel your concern for safety. And its not that I want to take stupid chances, I have talked around with people and shops. Like I stated earlier, it wasnt my intention to have an import guy advise me on my NOS setup. But I have went to him before when I had my turbo 4 banger and he never steered me wrong. and if you really think about it....LOL.....this guy has seen alot of "chances" taken with nitrous dry systems, AKA the stock civic guy coming in with self installed 200 dry shot wanting to beat a camaro, mustang, challenger like in the movies. So we are working towards safety in this. Keep you posted feel free to chime in with more good advice. Thanks.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:20 PM   #17
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:30 PM   #18
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Well, I am counting on the MAF to add fuel as well as 02 sensors. That is the way system is designed. I understand what you guys are saying though, thats why I am asking before spraying. Kit instructions say as long as adequate octane booster or race fuel is used, (not necesarily 100 percent), that it would be safe to spray up to 100 with no timing retard. 150 shot would require at least 2 degrees of pull. I dont think I am going to even try the small jet, (75), without first getting a A/F guage. they say the placement of the dry nozzle is key as the sustem works by the MAF picking up the shot, so I am going to position it to spray all aver it. Thing is I will have to mount the jet at the end of the air filter so the MAF will see it. K&N intake has the MAF mounted all the way to the filter end so no room to mount it for the MAF to see it. Will post a pic in a few.
Yes, get a wide band. Your O2 sensors will do nothing for you at wot. Wot is open loop.
If your canned tune is adding timing and now your spraying in your intake tube, your iat sensor is going to read a colder temp and will most likely want to add more timing. But if they designed the kit to work by spraying across the maf, then I can't argue that point.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:03 PM   #19
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Yes, the instructions said spraying cold nitrous across the MAF would drive the MAF nuts and add lots of fuel, thus creating the horsepower increase according to how much nitrous the MAF saw. So I mounted some of the kit today, now Im gonna have beers and tacos and get back to it tomorrow. Thanks for the input.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:13 PM   #20
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How about this? If I was to transform this to a wet kit right away, all I would have to do is run the fuel line off the stock pump to the plate behind the throttle body right? (Assuming of course I had one to put there). After that if I am correct in my thinking its just run the nitrous line and the fuel line to the plate and Im good? I could probably at that that point change the tune or retard the timing myself 2 degrees and run the 150 shot. Just thinking out loud. Anyone got pics of how they ran the fuel line off the stock pump?
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:20 PM   #21
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I'm looking to do a nos kit as far as wet or dry I don't know I a aem air intake and a diablo tune on 91 I have a lot of questions since I have an L99 but I'm not looking to blow a ring
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:04 AM   #22
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Im in the same boat. Hopefully as this thread progresses we will both learn more about it. Good responses and help so far.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:40 AM   #23
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How about this? If I was to transform this to a wet kit right away, all I would have to do is run the fuel line off the stock pump to the plate behind the throttle body right? (Assuming of course I had one to put there). After that if I am correct in my thinking its just run the nitrous line and the fuel line to the plate and Im good? I could probably at that that point change the tune or retard the timing myself 2 degrees and run the 150 shot. Just thinking out loud. Anyone got pics of how they ran the fuel line off the stock pump?
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217103

Are you changing your plugs too?
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:01 AM   #24
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:04 AM   #25
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Yes, from what I have been reading and what shop guy was saying. I would be ok on the stock type plug, (maybe a better quality one but same heat rating), up to a 75 shot. From 100 to 150, (150 is all I plan to go to), one step colder good quality plug would be needed. Once I get all installed I will be trying the 50 and 75 out on stock plug with no timing retard yet. Everything I read and what the tuner shop guy was saying jives with that, even with canned tune. And before the flaming starts, I have worked with this guy before and he has seen his fair shair of nitrous mistakes. AKA the stock civic guy trying to spray 200 dry to keep up with the big cars. So a little trust I am giving to him. I just dont know if higher than 91 octane fuel would be needed at 75, Im not worried about it at 50 but if it pings I gues ill know.....
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:20 AM   #26
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Here is the suggested breakdown:

NGK Plug Part# = Shot Size
B6EFS(1 Step Colder) 3177 = 0-75
BR7EF(2 Steps Colder) 3346 = 75-150
B8EFS(3 Steps Colder) 1049 = 150-225
B9EFS(4 Steps Colder) 1085 = 225-300

Also recommended is to pull 2* per 50hp.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:02 AM   #27
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are people spraying through the shift?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:27 AM   #28
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Auto trans here, no worry about the shift. But WOT activated systems disengauge when you let off the throttle to shift. If you WOT shift....you could be at risk.
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