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Old 04-11-2013, 11:10 PM   #1
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Camaro vs Mustang profit

We all know Camaro is the volume leader in this segment but I'd be willing to bet Ford has more margin on the Mustang than GM on the Camaro or Dodge on the Challenger. Thoughts?
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:06 AM   #2
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I don't have any real facts only speculation but I think that It might be true that ford has a little more room for profit on the mustang than the camaro especially with ford still using a live rear end. When it comes to the most profit per car I would have to say challenger they cost alot more than the camaro or mustang and I don't see why. What merits the extra cost.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:10 PM   #3
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I don't have any real facts only speculation but I think that It might be true that ford has a little more room for profit on the mustang than the camaro especially with ford still using a live rear end. When it comes to the most profit per car I would have to say challenger they cost alot more than the camaro or mustang and I don't see why. What merits the extra cost.
Well actually the Solid Axle (for the Mustang at least) ended up costing more than the IRS did. As for the Challenger, I imagine that the R&D still hasn't been paid off simply due to the lack of sales, though the same could be said about the Camaro, not lack of sales wise but R&D being paid off. I seriously doubt at the Camaro's R&D has been paid off yet but that being said due to the fact that so many of the Camaro's drivetrain are off of another vehicle it wouldn't surprise me in the least...

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Old 04-13-2013, 06:09 PM   #4
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I don't have any real facts only speculation but I think that It might be true that ford has a little more room for profit on the mustang than the camaro especially with ford still using a live rear end.
Ford also uses a DOHC V8, while GM is using OHV. LS3s are cheaper to produce than Coyotes, and are more than likely cheaper to produce than even the V6 in the LTs.
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Ford also uses a DOHC V8, while GM is using OHV. LS3s are cheaper to produce than Coyotes, and are more than likely cheaper to produce than even the V6 in the LTs.
This is true... Just look at the price of the 5.4 and 5.8 they are drastically more expensive than the LSA. They of course don't have the advantage of being in multiple vehicles but the point remains. The Mustangs main cost is its engine.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:47 PM   #6
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This is true... Just look at the price of the 5.4 and 5.8 they are drastically more expensive than the LSA. They of course don't have the advantage of being in multiple vehicles but the point remains. The Mustangs main cost is its engine.
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Well actually the Solid Axle (for the Mustang at least) ended up costing more than the IRS did. As for the Challenger, I imagine that the R&D still hasn't been paid off simply due to the lack of sales, though the same could be said about the Camaro, not lack of sales wise but R&D being paid off. I seriously doubt at the Camaro's R&D has been paid off yet but that being said due to the fact that so many of the Camaro's drivetrain are off of another vehicle it wouldn't surprise me in the least...
I didn't know that the solid rear axel costs more and I guess it does make since about the R&D for the challenger.


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Ford also uses a DOHC V8, while GM is using OHV. LS3s are cheaper to produce than Coyotes, and are more than likely cheaper to produce than even the V6 in the LTs.
I didn't think about that the LS3 would be cheaper to make than the coyotes maybe GM has a higher profit margin.
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Well actually the Solid Axle (for the Mustang at least) ended up costing more than the IRS did. As for the Challenger, I imagine that the R&D still hasn't been paid off simply due to the lack of sales, though the same could be said about the Camaro, not lack of sales wise but R&D being paid off. I seriously doubt at the Camaro's R&D has been paid off yet but that being said due to the fact that so many of the Camaro's drivetrain are off of another vehicle it wouldn't surprise me in the least...
Actually for the Challenger to break even it only has to sell 25k per year which it has far exceeded every year. Remember, the R&D for the Challenger also counts for it's platform mates the 300 and Charger, so the output for the Challenger isn't that high.

Same can be said with the Camaro too. it shares platforms with a number of cars from Austrailia, the SS, shares drivetrain components with the Vette, the TR6060 with everyone (lol).

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Old 04-15-2013, 10:53 PM   #9
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I would imagine that the OP's assertation is most likely true. Ford has been producing essentially the same car for a long time now. Their R&D costs were probably recouped a long time ago.
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I would imagine that the OP's assertation is most likely true. Ford has been producing essentially the same car for a long time now. Their R&D costs were probably recouped a long time ago.
Hopefully, although someone pointed out the benefits of chassis sharing, something I believe the current Mustang has done without.
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A lot of different factors come into play tooling, platform sharing etc. personally I believe that the camaro costs more on average to make since it rides on a new platform and the tooling costs might not of been paid of yet. I think the mustangs engine costs more than the LS3 since its more complex and is not shared as much as the LS3. I belive I read someway that the v6 camaro engine (llt,Lfx) cost more to make than an LS3 !
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:35 AM   #13
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