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Old 04-14-2013, 09:27 PM   #1
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your guess on the z/28 1/4 times and mph

as title says what do u think it will run. im gonna say 12.2 @117.

anyone else care to play the guessig game.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:29 PM   #2
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I'm more interested in it's lap times....
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:53 PM   #3
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I'm more interested in it's lap times....
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...Ok,...If it was on a "track" where it came out of a tight hair-pin turn, followed by a flat quarter-mile straight-a-way, then a banked lazy turn, how fast would it be on the straight?...lol..
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I'm more interested in it's lap times....
I agree.
I'm guessing 1/4 mile times will be similar to the ZL1.
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i should be close to the zl1 but i think it will be slower.

lap times change from track to track . 1/4 tells what kinda power it has . im pretty sure it gonna turn ok.
if ur more interested in lap time then dont post plz this is 1/4 section . plz make another post if ur worried about that.
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i should be close to the zl1 but i think it will be slower.
You are very likely correct in this assumption. Hopefully when this is confirmed people won't be moaning about how the Z/28 is a 'disappointment'....
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1/4 tells what kinda power it has
I mean this with all due respect but I think you are missing the point of this beast. This car is more about handling and the "whole package" than just raw power.....
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You are very likely correct in this assumption. Hopefully when this is confirmed people won't be moaning about how the Z/28 is a 'disappointment'....
I'd be surprised if someone were seriously disappointed that a 505-hp car doesn't perform in a straight line at the same acceleration as a 580-hp car.
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I'd be surprised if someone were seriously disappointed that a 505-hp car doesn't perform in a straight line at the same acceleration as a 580-hp car.


Besides the power difference the Z/28 is just not built for the 1/4!

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For sure the 1/4 mile is not gonna be it's claim to fame, but I would think car mags and others will run it at the drags to see what it can do...1/4 mile stats get included with just about every other car made....
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I'd be surprised if someone were seriously disappointed that a 505-hp car doesn't perform in a straight line at the same acceleration as a 580-hp car.
You'd think so, but it seems that a lot of people don't 'get it'. Just wait, as soon as the 1/4 times show that it's slower than a ZL1, people are going to start talking about what a 'ripoff' the Z/28 is when they can get a ZL1 that is 'faster' and cheaper..... Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm probably right...
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My guess is 12.3 in the 1/4
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:23 AM   #14
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You'd think so, but it seems that a lot of people don't 'get it'. Just wait, as soon as the 1/4 times show that it's slower than a ZL1, people are going to start talking about what a 'ripoff' the Z/28 is when they can get a ZL1 that is 'faster' and cheaper..... Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm probably right...
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You'd think so, but it seems that a lot of people don't 'get it'. Just wait, as soon as the 1/4 times show that it's slower than a ZL1, people are going to start talking about what a 'ripoff' the Z/28 is when they can get a ZL1 that is 'faster' and cheaper..... Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm probably right...
Most likely you are wrong
How GM would charge more for less , they can try , but I think they will be in for a surprise .
Regarding performance , GM has to keep some cards in the sleeve
About 18 months after they bring the Z/28 back out , they will bring an updated newer version with another 80+ HP , and there we go again , and again
One can never bring all the cards at once , it's not a good thing !!!
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A half to .75seconds behind a ZL-1.
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I'm more interested in it's lap times....
No sh*t. Z/28 1/4 mi times: Boring.

Nurburgring, Laguna Seca, VIR, now those are times that show the engineering that went into the car and ones I look forward to learning.

And most critical- can it hold up to do it all day, day after day?

#74 on my Z/28 list of important facts: drag racing performance.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:18 AM   #18
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:22 AM   #19
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How GM would charge more for less , they can try , but I think they will be in for a surprise .
Regarding performance , GM has to keep some cards in the sleeve
About 18 months after they bring the Z/28 back out , they will bring an updated newer version with another 80+ HP , and there we go again , and again
One can never bring all the cards at once , it's not a good thing !!!
If you really think they are charging more for less, especially if the z/28 runs slower than a zl1 in the 1/4 mile, then count yourself in the group that doesn't 'get it'.

There are reasons why I don't think a supercharger should and would be added. A supercharger will add heat, weight, and complexity. Three things you don't want in a car that will be tracked heavily, and that you want to be reliable in terms of power and consistency. You also want minimal points of failure. Most buyers are amateurs, and we don't want to worry about overheat and failure issues. We just want to drive on track
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My guess on the z/28 1/4 times and mph is ZERO because nobody who buys one is going to want to be seen at a FREAKING DRAGSTRIP. I honestly don't get the 1/4 mile thing sometimes. It's not the be-all end-all of performance.

This car is a hunter; a production car killer. In the hands of a skilled driver it's going to terrorize production cars everywhere. Most drivers will lose their courage before this car will lose it's ability to perform. It's pretty much going to become THE car to have for HPDE, club events and track days. I can't wait to see the legend it creates for itself on the semi-pro/pro circuit. Nothing in this paragraph has or will have anything to do with 1/4 mile times.

Stingrays and Z/28s at Le Mans, Daytona, Sebring....there are some serious Chevy racing glory days just up ahead.
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My guess on the z/28 1/4 times and mph is ZERO because nobody who buys one is going to want to be seen at a FREAKING DRAGSTRIP. I honestly don't get the 1/4 mile thing sometimes. It's not the be-all end-all of performance.

This car is a hunter; a production car killer. In the hands of a skilled driver it's going to terrorize production cars everywhere. Most drivers will lose their courage before this car will lose it's ability to perform. It's pretty much going to become THE car to have for HPDE, club events and track days. I can't wait to see the legend it creates for itself on the semi-pro/pro circuit. Nothing in this paragraph has or will have anything to do with 1/4 mile times.

Stingrays and Z/28s at Le Mans, Daytona, Sebring....there are some serious Chevy racing glory days just up ahead.
I don't think that's the question, Doc. The Z/28 at the 1/4 is not the be-all end-all question... just a simple query by the OP on what it can do in the 1/4 and it's not taking away at all from its primary objective and principal intent for use--> at the road course/track/circuit. So in the spirit of the OP's question, let's keep the context within the OP's scope... @ what do you think it can do in the 1/4 mile strip? We all know the Z/28 is going to surprise many highline manufacturers once the track times are tested & revealed.
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I don't think that's the question, Doc. The Z/28 at the 1/4 is not the be-all end-all question... just a simple query by the OP on what it can do in the 1/4 and it's not taking away at all from its primary objective and principal intent for use--> at the road course/track/circuit. So in the spirit of the OP's question, let's keep the context within the OP's scope... @ what do you think it can do in the 1/4 mile strip? We all know the Z/28 is going to surprise many highline manufacturers once the track times are tested & revealed.
Yes.

The magazines will do the usual test including 0-60, 1/4 time & mph, 60-0, etc. it will be interesting. I think it will perform quite well in all test. I'd love to see a less than 100' 60-0.

P.S. for those so freaked out about weight, Al O. said around the track (I guess where they were testing) removing 250 lbs. from the Camaro resulted in only a 1 second gain. He said wayyyyyy more was gained from better braking, handling and power. Yes weight is the enemy, but it can be subdued.
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I don't think that's the question, Doc. The Z/28 at the 1/4 is not the be-all end-all question... just a simple query by the OP on what it can do in the 1/4 and it's not taking away at all from its primary objective and principal intent for use--> at the road course/track/circuit. So in the spirit of the OP's question, let's keep the context within the OP's scope... @ what do you think it can do in the 1/4 mile strip? We all know the Z/28 is going to surprise many highline manufacturers once the track times are tested & revealed.
You can already guess based on hp, weight and gearing that it would do low 12's maybe high 11's but so what? Asking what a Z will do in the 1/4 is like asking how many free throws a baseball pitcher can make on the basketball court; it just doesn't fit. With all due respect it doesn't matter what it can do in the 1/4 because it's not going to be seen or used in the 1/4. It's not designed for that; Chevy already has the COPO and ZL1 that are designed to compete there. If anybody is interested in a 1/4 mile car they won't be buying this car. Those who can afford to spend $70k and will buy a Z/28 are either collectors or plan to run it on road courses.

Nothing against the OP but understanding what this car is really about has nothing to do with 1/4 mile and everything to do with the average lap speeds at tracks where we already have those statistics for the cars the Z is going to be competing against. And in that regard I have a feeling this car is going to embarrass foreign maker cars that cost considerably more.
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All cars are measured by the same stats. Therefore the 0-60 and 1/4 Time & MPH are important for comparisons. The Z/28 will highly excel in slalom and G's. I personally think it will do exrremely well in all catagories.
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Sticking to the question I'll say mid 12's. Ill say Gen 5 camaros 1/4 #'s don't really impress me bone stock . They do come alive with the right modifications and do belive , theirs fans waiting to put their hands to the z/28 for 1/4 mile purpose including myself. So forgive me if I missed the part about it being a circuit "lap" car . The z/28 is gonna draw a lot of interest once it's posted on YouTube punching lower 9 numbers saying ,hey circut guys ,look at what we did . This to me is kissing the "ghost". Make ur freaking hair stand up!!
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