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Old 06-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #1
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Recent oil change

I took my 2010 SS to the dealership to get a oil change before I set out on the highway for a 450 mile road trip back to my college. I noticed that it was a Valvoline sticker in the corner of my front windshield (I never look right after because I'm so used to it being Mobil1), I then grabbed my paperwork and it says they put valvoline maxlife oil in my car. I called the service manager and he insist that maxlife is ok to be used in the V8 models. Is he telling the truth or just saying anything to get me out of his ear? (sorry for long story)
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Its fine. dexos is nothing special that is used in the newer ones.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:01 AM   #3
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ooooo noooooo i would be pissed if it was anything but amsoil or gibbs
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:16 AM   #4
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ooooo noooooo i would be pissed if it was anything but amsoil or gibbs
Yeah, I am pretty pissed even though it may not do anything to the engine. It's still that psychological part that has you thinking the car may not be performing as well as it can.
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:12 AM   #5
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ooooo noooooo i would be pissed if it was anything but amsoil or gibbs
Both of those oils are not on GM's approved list.
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This is one reason I do my own maintenance for small things.

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Both of those oils are not on GM's approved list.
And for good reason.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:03 AM   #8
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Its fine. dexos is nothing special that is used in the newer ones.
Good old GM/Mobil synthetic blend with a cute Dexos certification.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:28 AM   #9
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Yeah, I am pretty pissed even though it may not do anything to the engine. It's still that psychological part that has you thinking the car may not be performing as well as it can.
The same psychological brainwashing by GM and mobil 1 that has people believing their car simply cannot funtion properly unless you use their oil.
Dont worry, you'll be fine. Just remember to ask for the mobil 1 next time. Dealerships cannot be trusted!
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:37 AM   #10
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The same psychological brainwashing by GM and mobil 1 that has people believing their car simply cannot funtion properly unless you use their oil.
Dont worry, you'll be fine. Just remember to ask for the mobil 1 next time. Dealerships cannot be trusted!

It still isn't good to switch back and fourth between oil brands.
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It still isn't good to switch back and fourth between oil brands.
Explain why.

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Explain why.

Because regardless of weight each company uses there own combination of additve packages. Were not talking complete engine destruction here but there are differences.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:53 PM   #13
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Because regardless of weight each company uses there own combination of additve packages. Were not talking complete engine destruction here but there are differences.
That is true...but these different additive packages mixed together aren't going to do any harm at all. It really doesn't matter, as long as you use oil approved for the engine that is the correct weight.
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That is true...but these different additive packages mixed together aren't going to do any harm at all. It really doesn't matter, as long as you use oil approved for the engine that is the correct weight.
That's kind of like saying 87 octace won't hinder performance compared to 93 octane.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:24 PM   #15
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That's kind of like saying 87 octace won't hinder performance compared to 93 octane.
Which brings us back to the usual old, boring, beat to death debate. Gas is gas........it all comes from the same pipe. But its the additive that makes it all better. And, oil is oil.........its all refined the same (or gene spliced or whatever they do with that synthetic goo).........but its the additives that makes it all better.
Are we all that blind to believe them? Just because they say so? Do we really believe that the standards are so strictly adhered to that if a manufacturer farts funny that an M.I.B. style "Agent EPA" will come crashing through the door with guns and a huge fine book?
The bottom line here is, taking care of your investment by taking the time to regularly check your fluids..........(oil, coolant, transmission). Doing proper regular maintenance. And most legit, off the shelf brands will perform well in your normal daily driven car.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:15 AM   #16
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Which brings us back to the usual old, boring, beat to death debate. Gas is gas........it all comes from the same pipe. But its the additive that makes it all better. And, oil is oil.........its all refined the same (or gene spliced or whatever they do with that synthetic goo).........but its the additives that makes it all better.
Are we all that blind to believe them? Just because they say so? Do we really believe that the standards are so strictly adhered to that if a manufacturer farts funny that an M.I.B. style "Agent EPA" will come crashing through the door with guns and a huge fine book?
The bottom line here is, taking care of your investment by taking the time to regularly check your fluids..........(oil, coolant, transmission). Doing proper regular maintenance. And most legit, off the shelf brands will perform well in your normal daily driven car.

You do understand that there are not only different octanes but grades and additive packages for fuel, right? So even if there wasn't different additive packages (there is) each dealer can choose the grade (not octane) of fuel they carry.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:27 AM   #17
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You do understand that there are not only different octanes but grades and additive packages for fuel, right? So even if there wasn't different additive packages (there is) each dealer can choose the grade (not octane) of fuel they carry.
Ok, you're making me nervous lol, will there be a performance down grade if I let this Valvoline crap run fully through my engine until my next oil change?
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That's kind of like saying 87 octace won't hinder performance compared to 93 octane.
Totally incorrect. Using your analogy would be more akin to saying that 5W-30 can be mixed, or used in place of, 10W-40. What I'm saying is that using different oil brands is similar to mixing Phillips fuel with BP. There is absolutely no harm in mixing brands. Period.

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You do understand that there are not only different octanes but grades and additive packages for fuel, right? So even if there wasn't different additive packages (there is) each dealer can choose the grade (not octane) of fuel they carry.
This is absolutely true.
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You do understand that there are not only different octanes but grades and additive packages for fuel, right? So even if there wasn't different additive packages (there is) each dealer can choose the grade (not octane) of fuel they carry.
Ummm, yeah. But what I'm saying is........how do we know?
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Ok, you're making me nervous lol, will there be a performance down grade if I let this Valvoline crap run fully through my engine until my next oil change?
No, you will be completely fine. Don't let them scare you. Some are just set in their ways and cannot see beyond their noses. There are plenty of us using "non approved lubricants" without dire affects...........many with improved performance. If you are really worried, let them swap for the mobil 1.
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:47 PM   #22
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No, you will be completely fine. Don't let them scare you. Some are just set in their ways and cannot see beyond their noses. There are plenty of us using "non approved lubricants" without dire affects...........many with improved performance. If you are really worried, let them swap for the mobil 1.
Why are some of you guys so damn ignorant? What I said is 100% fact and different oils will not perform the same regardless of certification. That's kind of like saying a red/green alignment is spot on simply because it's within specifications.
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Why are some of you guys so damn ignorant?
Perhaps "obstinate" is a more correct word. Perhaps it's because some of the posters "don't believe you."

Jus' sayin'.

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Old 06-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #25
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Perhaps "obstinate" is a more correct word. Perhaps it's because some of the posters "don't believe you."

Jus' sayin'.

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With all the bullshit on here I'm pretty sure ignorance is the correct term.
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