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Old 06-24-2013, 05:57 PM   #1
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Those of you with nos chime in please.

Hi all.

Going to get a kit installed on the car in a few months.


I am interested in hearing from those of you who have it.


Please tell me your lessons learned and tips that might help me,


Did you all start with a 55shot and dial it up. What is your feeling on using it.


I hear some people mention the engine is going to blow and others say its a well made engine that can take it.


I would love to hear from some mechanics as well.


My thoughts for having it are just to add some kick on the track by my town.


I don't race that much but like the option nos gives you.


No haters please. I have read all that and just want some real life facts. Good or bad.


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Old 06-24-2013, 06:49 PM   #2
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Drag Racer and engine builder here. We argued this out in another thread.

If you are real careful and everything runs correctly, you may never have a problem with it.

I asked over a hundred fellow pro racers and builders at the last meet I was at and the bottom line is this:

Nitrous is (most said "by far") the most dangerous power adder you can use.

The most expensive too. Pay a little now and a lot later. Guy ran a 150 shot for 10 passes, used $270 in NO2.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:29 PM   #3
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Drag Racer and engine builder here. We argued this out in another thread.

If you are real careful and everything runs correctly, you may never have a problem with it.

I asked over a hundred fellow pro racers and builders at the last meet I was at and the bottom line is this:

Nitrous is (most said "by far") the most dangerous power adder you can use.

The most expensive too. Pay a little now and a lot later. Guy ran a 150 shot for 10 passes, used $270 in NO2.
True, but is about 220+ passes on a 125 shot for the cost of a V6 supercharger. No one with a supercharger has gotten close to a 12.0 yet, but a two guys with a 125 shot have. I think that is the allure.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:53 PM   #4
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That's $27.00 per pass for nitrous, how much does he pay per pound. It must be some GREAT nitrous. At $5.50 per lb and that would on the high side around my way, your talking 4.5 lbs per run, two runs per 10lb bottle on a 150 shot. Something wrong with that system ( or my math ) to use that much per run on a 150 shot. I get a 58lb bottle delivered to my shop for $248.00.

The most expensive too. Pay a little now and a lot later. Guy ran a 150 shot for 10 passes, used $270 in NO2.[/QUOTE]
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:17 AM   #5
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Drag Racer and engine builder here. We argued this out in another thread.

If you are real careful and everything runs correctly, you may never have a problem with it.

I asked over a hundred fellow pro racers and builders at the last meet I was at and the bottom line is this:

Nitrous is (most said "by far") the most dangerous power adder you can use.

The most expensive too. Pay a little now and a lot later. Guy ran a 150 shot for 10 passes, used $270 in NO2.
Guess if I were to race a lot best buy the super charger or a bigger engine.

Thanks for the cost breakdown. I did not know that.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:10 AM   #6
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I think the only way it's "more dangerous", is because of how cheap it is, and how easy it is to be greedy. if used right, and not pushing your luck on bigger shots, it's no more dangerous than a turbo or supercharger.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:30 AM   #7
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I plan to start with 50 shot and no timing pulled...when i step up to 75 shot i will have my tune adjusted to pull a couple degrees of timing. I always run 93 octane.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:50 AM   #8
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Drag Racer and engine builder here. We argued this out in another thread.

If you are real careful and everything runs correctly, you may never have a problem with it.

I asked over a hundred fellow pro racers and builders at the last meet I was at and the bottom line is this:

Nitrous is (most said "by far") the most dangerous power adder you can use.

The most expensive too. Pay a little now and a lot later. Guy ran a 150 shot for 10 passes, used $270 in NO2.
10 passes of a 150 won't empty a 15 lb bottle. And it's $70 to fill the bottle
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10 passes of a 150 won't empty a 15 lb bottle. And it's $70 to fill the bottle
i'm pretty sure it will empty. I was running 100shot in a 10lb bottle, and was running out after about 6 passes.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:11 AM   #10
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One thing to keep in mind is that you always have the extra power on tap with a turbo or super charger but with Nitrous you don't.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:16 AM   #11
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Gotta remember it will also depend out long the shot is open...if its a 150 shot out of the gate til finish line vs someone using a window switch or controller. Also depends how fast the car is...faster car will be spraying less time.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #12
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I get 7 good passes on a 100 shot running 12.7 - 12.8. My 8th pass runs out. I use a 10lb bottle.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:40 PM   #13
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I get 7 good passes on a 100 shot running 12.7 - 12.8. My 8th pass runs out. I use a 10lb bottle.
Was your 13. sec pass on a 75shot?
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:15 PM   #14
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On an LS3, about 5 runs on a 100 shot, progressive system, 10lb bottle. $4.50 - $5.00 per lb.
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We get a good deal in charleston, $3.50 a lb
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:14 PM   #16
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What is the preferred kit to buy? And when you guys say 100 shot 150 shot ect. Does the system have a dial you set or something. How do you program the different shots? I would have no issue trying a 55 shot on the track. Money aside what is the best kit for the v-6 with the safest design.

Great stuff you guys posted. This is new territory for me here. Years ago I did auto mechanics as a job but I was mainly AC and electrical.

Nos is all new to me. I am not greedy I just want an extra kick.

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Ny-trex is the preferred kit and to adjust the nitrous shot you have to swap jets. The jets you have spraying determine the size of the shot
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Lscamaro is correct about the jets. You have two jets. One is for nitrous and the other is for fuel.
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Ny-trex is the preferred kit and to adjust the nitrous shot you have to swap jets. The jets you have spraying determine the size of the shot

So if I under stand it there is no way to over shoot the engine with nos because the jets only let some much in. I see some kits stop the spray when you let off the gas. WOT ends. Sounds pretty safe to me.

I also assume it your rev limiter would still function as a safety right?

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So if I under stand it there is no way to over shoot the engine with nos because the jets only let some much in. I see some kits stop the spray when you let off the gas. WOT ends. Sounds pretty safe to me.

I also assume it your rev limiter would still function as a safety right?

Nice. Thx


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A window switch would be your safety net for redlining. A window switch will allow you to set what rpm the nitrous will start spraying, and what rpm it will stop spraying.

And yes, if you let off the throttle, you will stop spraying.
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