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Old 04-15-2013, 12:11 AM   #1
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1-4 gear shift. does it really help fuel economy?

i know not too many people are fond of that moment when you go to shift into 2nd gear and the car "redirects" you to 4th gear. from what i have been told, that is how the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT manuals have avoided the gas guzzler tax, but does it really help fuel economy?

now that i have a car forces me into 4th gear sometimes when i am trying to get into 2nd gear, it is a little frustrating. considering i use just as much, if not more, gas pedal to accelerate from 4th as i would normally, i see how it's saving any gas and it's probably not good for my clutch as well, when the RPMs are suitable for 2nd and not 4th.

does this really save fuel or was this "feature" simply put in as a technicality to avoid that gas guzzler tax?
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:18 AM   #2
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Either way, I'm just glad it can be easily defeated by a 99 cent resistor and saves me from paying the gas guzzler tax.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:18 AM   #3
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i know not too many people are fond of that moment when you go to shift into 2nd gear and the car "redirects" you to 4th gear. from what i have been told, that is how the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT manuals have avoided the gas guzzler tax, but does it really help fuel economy?

now that i have a car forces me into 4th gear sometimes when i am trying to get into 2nd gear, it is a little frustrating. considering i use just as much, if not more, gas pedal to accelerate from 4th as i would normally, i see how it's saving any gas and it's probably not good for my clutch as well, when the RPMs are suitable for 2nd and not 4th.

does this really save fuel or was this "feature" simply put in as a technicality to avoid that gas guzzler tax?
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:08 AM   #4
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Other times you might have to slow down a bit to open the 2nd gear gate.
In which case you wish you would have rolled off the clutch in 2nd.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:31 AM   #5
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:17 AM   #6
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Skip Shift and 3.91 rear end moves the heavy car pretty good. It even looks like I may of picked up a couple of MPG in the city, I shift into 6th now at 40mph without lugging.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:21 AM   #7
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In function: Nope. I used to accelerate more aggressively than I normally would to avoid triggering it whenever it was safe to do so. So glad I don't have it anymore
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:46 AM   #8
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Didn't think the V6 had skip shift, but the EPA loves a ZL1. I got to pay a $1300 GG tax and still have skip shift.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:10 AM   #9
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Didn't think the V6 had skip shift, but the EPA loves a ZL1. I got to pay a $1300 GG tax and still have skip shift.
Shows how the govt thinks.........pay a gas guzzler tax......even though you are paying more gas taxes per gallon, per mile than a Prius, which gets a single driver the privelege of car pool lanes (in Oregon anyways).

$1300 for the manual, and a whooping $2600 for the automatic. What a joke.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:29 AM   #11
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Either way, I'm just glad it can be easily defeated by a 99 cent resistor and saves me from paying the gas guzzler tax.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:46 AM   #13
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The skip shift is so easily and cheaply eliminated, when you make the modification you feel like you cheated the government which is never easily or cheaply done!
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:18 AM   #15
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I bought a skipshift eliminator about a week after getting my car. When going up a hill in rush hour traffic, you can't jump on it and you can't have your car forcing you to skip gears.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:51 PM   #16
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Skipshift eliminator is a whole lot cheaper than an LS3 conversion. :(
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How easy is it really to install the slp skip shift eliminator?
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:02 PM   #18
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How easy is it really to install the slp skip shift eliminator?
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:18 PM   #19
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i know not too many people are fond of that moment when you go to shift into 2nd gear and the car "redirects" you to 4th gear. from what i have been told, that is how the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT manuals have avoided the gas guzzler tax, but does it really help fuel economy?

now that i have a car forces me into 4th gear sometimes when i am trying to get into 2nd gear, it is a little frustrating. considering i use just as much, if not more, gas pedal to accelerate from 4th as i would normally, i see how it's saving any gas and it's probably not good for my clutch as well, when the RPMs are suitable for 2nd and not 4th.

does this really save fuel or was this "feature" simply put in as a technicality to avoid that gas guzzler tax?
If it didn't do anything, it wouldn't be there. With your particular driving habbits, maybe it does cause you to burn more. For others, it might help. But in any case, its not there to save customers gas. It's there because its an easy way to get an extra couple mpg on the EPA test.

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How easy is it really to install the slp skip shift eliminator?
Easy, only takes a couple minutes. But you don't even the SLP kit. It works, and a lot of people like it, but its not needed to defeat CAGS. A cheap resistor (2.2k ohms I think) or a slight alteration to your driving style can keep it from engaging. But to each their own.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:04 AM   #20
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On paper: Yes.

In function: Nope. I used to accelerate more aggressively than I normally would to avoid triggering it whenever it was safe to do so. So glad I don't have it anymore
I agree, on paper it probably works out. In real world driving, I can feel the car lugging badly in situations where I need to be in second the most
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I hardly ever hit the skip shift.
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I hardly ever hit the skip shift.
I've learned to 'drive around it' too. Sometimes I'll see the icon displayed but I won't actually have to do it
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:09 AM   #23
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I never have the skip shift come on. I skip on my own. I usually go 1, 3, 5 or 2, 4 6. Sometimes I go 1, 3, 6. I always shift at/before 2000 rpm.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:13 AM   #24
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I never have the skip shift come on. I skip on my own. I usually go 1, 3, 5 or 2, 4 6. Sometimes I go 1, 3, 6. I always shift at/before 2000 rpm.
I do the same thing when driving around.

Going through each and every gear, I do believe your mpgs will drop since youre shifting so frequently in the first 3 gears and its fairly easy to go over 2k rpms in 1st, 2nd & 3rd if your shifting through them where as if your skip shifitng youre able to keep your rpms at a lower pace much more easily.

Does the skip shift actually force you to go from 1st to 4th? or is it just showing you to do this on DIC? I can shift 1st to 2nd when the DIC shows up to skip shift.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:46 AM   #25
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I do the same thing when driving around.

Going through each and every gear, I do believe your mpgs will drop since youre shifting so frequently in the first 3 gears and its fairly easy to go over 2k rpms in 1st, 2nd & 3rd if your shifting through them where as if your skip shifitng youre able to keep your rpms at a lower pace much more easily.

Does the skip shift actually force you to go from 1st to 4th? or is it just showing you to do this on DIC? I can shift 1st to 2nd when the DIC shows up to skip shift.
Sometimes you can get in to 2nd before the "gate" closes and forces you to 4th. So yes, it chooses the gear it would like for you to go to at that point as long as throttle and speed conditions are met.
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