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Old 06-23-2009, 12:23 PM   #1
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Zaino Pro advice requested!

Here is what I have... Car is IOM..Waiting on micro towels and have acquired some minor, very minor swirls, so have not had opportunity po use Zaino yet.

Z2, Z5, Z6, Z8, Clay bar, CS and the ZFX accelerator...

I read the instructions and so forth, back and forth..What I am looking for is the "best" route to go with first hand experiences.

Would you use the ZFX initially? And as far as what else I have, what steps would you do to promote the best overall result?

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Old 06-23-2009, 12:30 PM   #2
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First, I'd personally use something other than MF towels. I know that's an on going debate, but I prefer towels, such as those offered on www.zainobros.com.

Here's what I'd do;

1. Wash the car with Dawn. Even though there isn't any wax, you want a clean surface, free of any contaminants.

2. While car is still wet, Clay

3. Wash using Zaino Car Wash

4. Apply one coat of Z5, mixed with ZXF. If the paint is to your standards, further coats of Z5 aren't needed. (right now)

5. Apply two coats of Z2, mixed with ZXF.

- It's recommended only three coats within 24 hrs.

- ZXF is needed to help "bond" as well as cure the polish

- Use a separate was mitt if possible. IE; 1 for Dawn, 1 for Car wash

- You can wipe the car down bewteen coats with the spray if you like.

Hope that helped?

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Thanks...where and when would you use the CS and Z8? I did get alot of towels from Zaino and waiting on another shipment from another recommended supplier.

I have used Maguires and Zymol in the past and don't want to waste anything or screw anything up, thus the questions on a new, unfamiliar line of products.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:23 PM   #4
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Thanks...where and when would you use the CS and Z8? I did get alot of towels from Zaino and waiting on another shipment from another recommended supplier.

I have used Maguires and Zymol in the past and don't want to waste anything or screw anything up, thus the questions on a new, unfamiliar line of products.
I've used the CS once. (I have a full bottle still in my supplies. )

It works, but I still prefer to go out in the garage when I'm tired of TV, etc., and put another coat of Z2 on the SS.

As for Z8; I like it as well, but prefer the Z6. Z8 tends to "streak" more than Z6, and to be honest, they both offer great shines. As I said, Z8 is very good. Just use it sparingly. If it does streak, just go over the area with some more.
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2. While car is still wet, Clay

I have never used the clay bar. Can you get a little more detailed on how to use? Do you use it like a bar of soap with straight wipes back and forth? Do you nead it like dough occasionally? I would assume you stay off the edges. Just tryin to learn before my car shows up. Thanks
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2. While car is still wet, Clay

I have never used the clay bar. Can you get a little more detailed on how to use? Do you use it like a bar of soap with straight wipes back and forth? Do you nead it like dough occasionally? I would assume you stay off the edges. Just tryin to learn before my car shows up. Thanks
I've never used myself. I use something similair, but actually better than the clay bar.
Make sure you're car is wet before you clay and car must be clean. Do a little section at a time, keeping the clay and car wet, occasionally kneading the clay.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:35 PM   #7
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2. While car is still wet, Clay

I have never used the clay bar. Can you get a little more detailed on how to use? Do you use it like a bar of soap with straight wipes back and forth? Do you nead it like dough occasionally? I would assume you stay off the edges. Just tryin to learn before my car shows up. Thanks
Sorry.

You'll want to get a spray bottle and add 1 capful of carwash, filling the bottle with water. While the car is still wet, spray an area about 6" x 6" while gliding the clay across the paint surface. You will start to see the clay turn black as the contaminants are removed from the paint and captured in the clay. At that point, knead the clay to a clean area, and continue. Do the entire car, rewash it, dry, and proceed to adding polish.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:40 PM   #8
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Reaction from tonight's Camaro Cruise Night, re; Paint/Zaino:

Guy next to me; "WOW! You're paint is beautiful!"

Me; "Thank you very much!"

Guy; "That's a repaint, right?"

Me; "No. It's original."

Guy; "Really?! Than you must have wet sanded it! Right??"

Me; "No. Just many coats of Zaino."

Guy; "I've never seen a "factory paint" look that good."

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:57 PM   #9
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Reaction from tonight's Camaro Cruise Night, re; Paint/Zaino:

Guy next to me; "WOW! You're paint is beautiful!"

Me; "Thank you very much!"

Guy; "That's a repaint, right?"

Me; "No. It's original."

Guy; "Really?! Than you must have wet sanded it! Right??"

Me; "No. Just many coats of Zaino."

Guy; "I've never seen a "factory paint" look that good."

Me; BIG SMILE ON MY FACE.
VERY NICE MOOSE!!!
And people say you can go out and buy the store shelf brands and get the same results?!!? SORRY, I beg to differ.
Zaino is the only product I know that works INCREDIBLY WELL and lasts INCREDIBLY WELL!!
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:19 AM   #11
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i love my zaino. looks awesome on my 01 Z28 still to this day.
does really well on my truck and the wifes tahoe as well. altho they dont have as many coats as the car. lol
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:25 AM   #12
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Zaino is the bomb...I too have had people ask me where did I get my repaint done and what is that color...my response is OEM paint, just Zaino'd!

Here is one of the better pics of my old car...still working on the new Camaro to look like this!

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You'll want to get a spray bottle and add 1 capful of carwash, filling the bottle with water. While the car is still wet, spray an area about 6" x 6" while gliding the clay across the paint surface. You will start to see the clay turn black as the contaminants are removed from the paint and captured in the clay. At that point, knead the clay to a clean area, and continue. Do the entire car, rewash it, dry, and proceed to adding polish
Just to add to that (not that anything is wrong) is that the ratio is 1 capful to 16 oz. of water for the clay solution. Probably doesn't have to be exact. I was able to work in larger areas, but my spray bottle wetted a pretty large area. Also make sure to check for any "big" stuff in the clay. If there is anything brush it off with your finger then re-knead it. You shouldn't have anything like that since you just washed; but shouldn't and won't are two different things. Good luck!
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Iv;e always dried the car off first before i clay it,but i think i will do it while it's still wet.Less work for me
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Iv;e always dried the car off first before i clay it,but i think i will do it while it's still wet.Less work for me
You are really supposed to leave the car wet or wet a little area at a time when you use the clay bar.. Saves your paint!!
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:25 PM   #16
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I think he meant he dries it off then sprays a Quick detailer or spray bottle
with soap for the clay.

Nexus is very anal about his cars!
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I've used the CS once. (I have a full bottle still in my supplies. )

It works, but I still prefer to go out in the garage when I'm tired of TV, etc., and put another coat of Z2 on the SS.

As for Z8; I like it as well, but prefer the Z6. Z8 tends to "streak" more than Z6, and to be honest, they both offer great shines. As I said, Z8 is very good. Just use it sparingly. If it does streak, just go over the area with some more.
So after the Z5 with accelerator, maintenance coats with Z2 is recommended as per your "down time" examples?

The Z5 is more of a cutting polish to take out fine swirls and scratches? and the Z5 more of a final wax?
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I think he meant he dries it off then sprays a Quick detailer or spray bottle
with soap for the clay.

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That is exactly what i meant

i didnt want to risk spotting (even though i use a water filter),i just didnt want to take the chance.






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First, I'd personally use something other than MF towels. I know that's an on going debate, but I prefer towels, such as those offered on www.zainobros.com.

Here's what I'd do;

1. Wash the car with Dawn. Even though there isn't any wax, you want a clean surface, free of any contaminants.

2. While car is still wet, Clay

3. Wash using Zaino Car Wash

4. Apply one coat of Z5, mixed with ZXF. If the paint is to your standards, further coats of Z5 aren't needed. (right now)

5. Apply two coats of Z2, mixed with ZXF.

- It's recommended only three coats within 24 hrs.

- ZXF is needed to help "bond" as well as cure the polish

- Use a separate was mitt if possible. IE; 1 for Dawn, 1 for Car wash

- You can wipe the car down bewteen coats with the spray if you like.

Hope that helped?

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I thought Z2 and Z5 were the same minus the swirl scratch remover with the Z5.

I'm using Zaino for the first time this week. Let me know what you guys think. I planned on doing:

1)Wash car with Dawn

2)Clay with Z18 clay bar

3)Wash with Z7 show car wash

4)One coat of Z-AIO

5)One coat of Z5 with ZFX

6)Seal with Z-CS Clear Seal

After that I plan on maintaining with Z-7 washes and Z-8 spray and Z-CS. Any opinions? What would you guys change? I didn't buy the Z2 or Z6.
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That is exactly what i meant

i didnt want to risk spotting (even though i use a water filter),i just didnt want to take the chance.






i prefer the term thorough
My bad!!! I am "very anal" when it comes to my vehicles as well.
Very cool.
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I thought Z2 and Z5 were the same minus the swirl scratch remover with the Z5.

I'm using Zaino for the first time this week. Let me know what you guys think. I planned on doing:

1)Wash car with Dawn

2)Clay with Z18 clay bar

3)Wash with Z7 show car wash

4)One coat of Z-AIO

5)One coat of Z5 with ZFX

6)Seal with Z-CS Clear Seal

After that I plan on maintaining with Z-7 washes and Z-8 spray and Z-CS. Any opinions? What would you guys change? I didn't buy the Z2 or Z6.
IMO, Z2 just give's it that little more "oomph".

Your process looks fine.

I've used Z-AIO once. Seeing as you've ordered it, go ahead and use it. But I think between the washing with 'Dawn', and the claying, the paint should be pretty clean and all set for Z5.

If you like, you can add more coats of Z5 to hide any imperfections.

And, I'd recommend the Z6 for in-between wipe downs. It does a very good job, and is a little cheaper. Save the Z8 for shows.

Make sure and use a "fresh" towel for each removal of polish. May not be necessary, but its my preferred method.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

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In process of Zaino-ing mine...So far so good...

Will let you know how it went after...
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Will let you know how it went after...


Looking forward to reading your thoughts on using Zaino and seeing some pics!

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How much polish do you use? Zaino says 1/2 ounce to 3/4 ounce will do the whole car but can you break it down for me? How much would you use on the fender which is small as opposed to the door which is big? Zaino recommends dampening the applicator pad with Z6 which I don't have. Can I use Z8 or just plain water to dampen it?
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Claybar the entire car first after Dawn wash....picked up minimal junk. Then washed with Zaino

So far I have used 1 ounce of Z5 2.5 coats with ZFX (hood and trunk the 3 coats) and just over 1 ounce of Z2. bout 2 coats.

She is looking real deep and wet.
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