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Old 04-17-2013, 05:44 PM   #26
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So no help reducing brake wear, and putting wear and tear on tranny. Sounds like something to stop doing (for wear on brakes at least).

No need to explain to me though about life long accident issue. Thats why I had to get an automatic. Glad your okay enough to enjoy this car- it is a blast!
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:24 PM   #27
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You should stop putting it in N and put it the in R, the reverse lights leave the car behind you startled.
When I first got my back up camera I used to do this at times to just see the video image on the monitor. I sure a few people wondered what's this Jack wagon up to.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:36 PM   #28
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Sorry. If it's an automatic, it's a dumb and useless exercise.
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Usually when I am at a red light I usually shift my automatic into neutral while waiting at a red light. Should I stop doing this? The only reason why I am even putting it into neutral at a red light is because I thought it decreases my wear and tear on my brakes.

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When you're stopped, the wheels aren't doing a lot of turning so it's difficult for me to imagine what wear you are avoiding

Brakes pads are wear and tear items. The fact that you stopped does much more to wear them out than the fact that you have remained stopped.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:05 PM   #30
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Why would you even think of shifting into neutral at a light?? It doesn't even make sense why you would do that?? Any time you move something it wears. So yea. Just leave it in drive. That's why you have a torque converter.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:09 PM   #31
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:03 PM   #32
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
Contradict much??

Slipping the trans in neutral is never a good idea. Ever. Use your brakes. That's what they are there for. If you can't slow down with your brakes you need to learn to drive or get tires meant for the situation or something. I get alot of bad snow and I am always driving on unplowed roads.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:21 PM   #33
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
Shifting into neutral while driving will SPEED UP your car. Putting the car into low gear will slow down the car mechanically and would help in scenario you describe, but is still unnessasary .
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:27 PM   #34
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Shifting into neutral while driving will SPEED UP your car. Putting the car into low gear will slow down the car mechanically and would help in scenario you describe, but is still unnessasary .
Unless your going downhill that's impossible. If putting it in neutral will speed your car up ill start driving around in neutral. The car will get better mpg idling everywhere. Ya know what.. Ill even shut the engine off since I don't need it anymore. Lol.

How could a car speed up if there are no forces making it do so??
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:29 PM   #35
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What if you shift it into neutral after you stop. On a flat surface so it doesn't roll? I've done this after working out or games when my legs are tired. I have also shifted into neutral going down hills. Is that bad?

Let me a bit more precise about my previous post. With an automatic I personally wouldn’t shift it into neutral when I stop at a light, if I had too I’d put it in park so I wouldn’t role. Going down hill I would not do either, this is not a manual, re-engaging your automatic at a higer RPM if you hit the gas early or something could do serious damage. I am NOT a mechanic nor do I claim to be one.
With a manual car I use neutral a lot, in my camaro I will coast down hills and around corners. They are two different trannys. I have my own driving style, my wife asks me all the time why I shift into neutral a lot, i just tell her each person has their own way of driving a standard car, this happens to be mine, I also shift from 1, 2, 4, 6 sometimes when just cursing around town.
to each their own i will never tell anyone how to drive their car, however i just don't understand the point of shift an automatic into N at all, i cannot remember the last time i used that gear in an automatic car, but thats me. to each their own!
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:30 PM   #36
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Shifting into neutral while driving will SPEED UP your car. Putting the car into low gear will slow down the car mechanically and would help in scenario you describe, but is still unnessasary .
I'm not tracking please explain?
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Just get up to top speed as quickly as possible...go to nuetral right away and start coasting for as long as you can...It'll save your clutch and wear and tear on the auto-trans...(If you turn off engine at this point you will really save gas, but lose power-steering, so be careful)....Re-start car as needed...lol...
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I'm not tracking please explain?
If you are slowing to a stop and shift into neutral the car will actually roll faster out of gear.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:49 PM   #39
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Usually when I am at a red light I usually shift my automatic into neutral while waiting at a red light. Should I stop doing this? The only reason why I am even putting it into neutral at a red light is because I thought it decreases my wear and tear on my brakes.

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If I read this right you are already stopped at the red light. No motion with the brakes applied equals no wear and tear on your brakes. Cut it out. Just my two cents
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Contradict much??

Slipping the trans in neutral is never a good idea. Ever. Use your brakes. That's what they are there for. If you can't slow down with your brakes you need to learn to drive or get tires meant for the situation or something. I get alot of bad snow and I am always driving on unplowed roads.
Hmm, I stand corrected. I wonder why this is everywhere on the internet? I heard this first from my parents.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:30 PM   #41
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Hmm, I stand corrected. I wonder why this is everywhere on the internet? I heard this first from my parents.
In their time maybe but with a modern car with modern brakes and tires and traction control its not true anymore. You paid for all that fancy crap so use it or at least give it a chance. And coasting in neutral will result in lower mpg. When the car is engine braking the injectors don't get pulsed so no fuel is used. When its idling its using fuel.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:39 PM   #42
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That's good to know, thanks for the information.

I've only done it a few times during the season, must have been a false sense of slowing the vehicle down. I do have proper tires at least, I'd be stranded with my P-Zero AS tires.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:00 PM   #43
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I would say look in your owners manual. If this was a good idea it would tell you there. My opinion is it would be harder on your transmission shifting in and out of gear than it would save your brakes..

If this were true then it would also be a good idea to turn your radio off at stop signs because it drains the battery. Thus it is less wear and tear on your alternator because it does not have to charge the battery so much..
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Ya I know for a fact that going down hills is bad on your tranny and other things so don't do that lol
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:19 PM   #45
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When you're stopped, the wheels aren't doing a lot of turning so it's difficult for me to imagine what wear you are avoiding

Brakes pads are wear and tear items. The fact that you stopped does much more to wear them out than the fact that you have remained stopped.
Exactly my point
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:48 PM   #46
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shifting from neutral to drive when the car is at a complete stop is no more harmful that shifting from park to drive every time you get in the car and start it..

we aren't talking about shifting into neutral and coasting to a light, we are talking about being at a complete stop and then putting the car into neutral while waiting for the light to change, might as well put it in park, it basically accomplishes the same thing.

I would never condone shifting into neutral while the vehicle is moving and coasting, you loose control of the vehicle that way. As for engine braking, if you learn how to drive and watch your high horizon you should be able to determine there is a stale green light or red light ahead of you and take your foot off the gas and the car will slow itself and downshift itself as you coast up to the light under complete control of the vehicle.

idiots that accelerate or maintain their speed then slam the brakes knowing there is a red light or stopped traffic ahead of them are just that idiots, learn how to freaking drive and you won't have a problem.

and the only reason that neutral is even on the car is because the feds mandated back in the 1950s that no automatic transmission would have drive and reverse side by side in the shift pattern because enough stupid people couldn't figure out what damn gear they were in and accidently backed into other drivers, or slammed their vehicles into reverse while moving forward.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:07 PM   #47
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My previous car, a '02 Scion xB automatic, had crappy engine/transmission mounts from the day I bought it. I always knocked that thing into neutral at stops to keep from getting the shakes, intensified when the a/c was on. It made it 155,000 miles before I traded it in, running just fine.

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Old 04-17-2013, 11:24 PM   #48
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That's good to know, thanks for the information.

I've only done it a few times during the season, must have been a false sense of slowing the vehicle down. I do have proper tires at least, I'd be stranded with my P-Zero AS tires.
Glad I could help. Drive safe out there.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:11 AM   #49
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I am just saying at higher rpms and I see a stoplight, I am not hitting the brakes, I will shift into neutral, have that slow me down and then apply the brakes. when it turns green I will shift into drive and wait for it to shift until I even apply the throttle. If this was harmful to the car, it wouldn't let us do it. That is why there is a governor, to not hurt the engine. That's why the car says shift denied when you try and shift up at too low of rpms. Or it would tell you something on the DIC. That is just my $0.02, I am not saying it is good or bad for the car. just that it cant be that bad for it.
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I am just saying at higher rpms and I see a stoplight, I am not hitting the brakes, I will shift into neutral, have that slow me down and then apply the brakes. when it turns green I will shift into drive and wait for it to shift until I even apply the throttle. If this was harmful to the car, it wouldn't let us do it. That is why there is a governor, to not hurt the engine. That's why the car says shift denied when you try and shift up at too low of rpms. Or it would tell you something on the DIC. That is just my $0.02, I am not saying it is good or bad for the car. just that it cant be that bad for it.
Well your wasting gas and doing unnecessary shifting. Why not just let off the gas. Shifting into neutral isn't even something to be thought of. It makes no sense.
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