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Old 04-17-2013, 03:26 PM   #18
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It's an automatic people. If you wanted to pretend like you had a stick shift you shold have gotten one.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:30 PM   #19
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^ what does that statement have to do with anything
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:39 PM   #20
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It's an automatic people. If you wanted to pretend like you had a stick shift you shold have gotten one.
get over yourself.

not everyone can drive a manual, and I am not talking about knowing how. Some people have physical limitations.

I have driven manuals for 20+ years, from motorcycles to semi trucks, but due to a life altering accident I can no longer physically do it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:20 PM   #21
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As a seller of automatic transmissions, I can tell you that the practice of shifting to neutral at lights does the following:

  • Reduces transmission friction disc life
  • Reduces fluid life
  • Places undue (albeit minor) shock on the driveline
  • Undue wear on the shifter, cable and linkage
  • Actually reduces fuel economy due to idle recovery when placed into gear
  • Adds heat (transmission's worst enemy) to the transmission
If you're stopped, there is no wear on your brakes, period. Although you may never see any actual short-term harm come from this practice, be assured that tiny bits of the life of your transmission and driveline are eaten away with every shift.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:22 PM   #22
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As a seller of automatic transmissions, I can tell you that the practice of shifting to neutral at lights does the following:

  • Reduces transmission friction disc life
  • Reduces fluid life
  • Places undue (albeit minor) shock on the driveline
  • Undue wear on the shifter, cable and linkage
  • Actually reduces fuel economy due to idle recovery when placed into gear
  • Adds heat (transmission's worst enemy) to the transmission
If you're stopped, there is no wear on your brakes, period. Although you may never see any actual short-term harm come from this practice, be assured that tiny bits of the life of your transmission and driveline are eaten away with every shift.
There you go OP, stop doing it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:26 PM   #23
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i've owend several automatics in my day and several manuals, however i just don't under stand the point. If you have a leg injury thats a different story, however brakes are less expensive to replace than a tranny.

I guess i don't understand why anyone would do this. However I believe to each their own!
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:29 PM   #24
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i've owend several automatics in my day and several manuals, however i just don't under stand the point. If you have a leg injury thats a different story, however brakes are less expensive to replace than a tranny.

I guess i don't understand why anyone would do this. However I believe to each their own!
What if you shift it into neutral after you stop. On a flat surface so it doesn't roll? I've done this after working out or games when my legs are tired. I have also shifted into neutral going down hills. Is that bad?
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #25
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I've always felt a manual was easier on the brakes overall, as you have the ability more readily to downshift or slow down with the clutch engaged using the engine's compression to ease the load necessary for braking...Whereas an automatic, down-shifting is not as effective, or harder on the trans than what it's worth...dunno...Probably "trade-offs" all around...
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:44 PM   #26
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So no help reducing brake wear, and putting wear and tear on tranny. Sounds like something to stop doing (for wear on brakes at least).

No need to explain to me though about life long accident issue. Thats why I had to get an automatic. Glad your okay enough to enjoy this car- it is a blast!
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:24 PM   #27
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You should stop putting it in N and put it the in R, the reverse lights leave the car behind you startled.
When I first got my back up camera I used to do this at times to just see the video image on the monitor. I sure a few people wondered what's this Jack wagon up to.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:36 PM   #28
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Sorry. If it's an automatic, it's a dumb and useless exercise.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:02 PM   #29
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Usually when I am at a red light I usually shift my automatic into neutral while waiting at a red light. Should I stop doing this? The only reason why I am even putting it into neutral at a red light is because I thought it decreases my wear and tear on my brakes.

Thanks guys
When you're stopped, the wheels aren't doing a lot of turning so it's difficult for me to imagine what wear you are avoiding

Brakes pads are wear and tear items. The fact that you stopped does much more to wear them out than the fact that you have remained stopped.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #30
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Why would you even think of shifting into neutral at a light?? It doesn't even make sense why you would do that?? Any time you move something it wears. So yea. Just leave it in drive. That's why you have a torque converter.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:09 PM   #31
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #32
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
Contradict much??

Slipping the trans in neutral is never a good idea. Ever. Use your brakes. That's what they are there for. If you can't slow down with your brakes you need to learn to drive or get tires meant for the situation or something. I get alot of bad snow and I am always driving on unplowed roads.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:21 PM   #33
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IMO, shifting into neutral (with an automatic) while driving should only be used during the winter season when you need to come to a stop at either a stop sign (light) or for a turn. It helps slow the vehicle down and you don't have to apply the brakes as much reducing the chance of skidding. It works really well, especially when the roads haven't been plowed.

Brakes are made to stop your vehicle, they don't wear that fast, I'd be more concerned about causing any potential wear on the transmission. A lot more expensive to replace.
Shifting into neutral while driving will SPEED UP your car. Putting the car into low gear will slow down the car mechanically and would help in scenario you describe, but is still unnessasary .
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:27 PM   #34
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Shifting into neutral while driving will SPEED UP your car. Putting the car into low gear will slow down the car mechanically and would help in scenario you describe, but is still unnessasary .
Unless your going downhill that's impossible. If putting it in neutral will speed your car up ill start driving around in neutral. The car will get better mpg idling everywhere. Ya know what.. Ill even shut the engine off since I don't need it anymore. Lol.

How could a car speed up if there are no forces making it do so??
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