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Old 04-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #15
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Yeah its the worst feature ever put on a car,,,,period
I think AFM on the L99 is also one of the worst features!!!
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:12 PM   #16
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No, not as of yet. Which is pretty sad. They should of made a way to disable it.
Something for Adam @ Range to work on. His AFM Disabler for automatics is fantastic! I've heard enough stories about HSA to think they should be considered a safety hazard.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:15 PM   #17
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I got it , but the cop with about 15 years less in driving experience than you , he may have way more driven miles than you , oh , and for sure way more tickets given to drivers list you also
But , hey , you did good today .
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #18
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Wow, that's a lot worse than my quibble with hill start today, I embarrassed myself in front of all my work buddies by stalling my car when I was parking reverse on a decline, but at least a cop wasn't around to see
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:19 PM   #19
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I honestly don't have a problem with hill assist. If you just release the brake, start giving normal amount of gas and release the clutch, the calipers will release and you start going. I have read that some people wait 3 seconds then start to release the clutch, but if you just try release clutch and give it gas you will get going. I was myself waiting the 3 seconds, but now have stopped and no I don't have any problems. Hope this helps.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:27 PM   #20
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I hope they do come up with a way to turn it off. I have to change where I drive due to this feature. There are a lot of stop signs on hills leading to busy roadways and when you have 10 to 15 cars in front of you every morning and it kicks on every single time. Man, it really starts getting on your nervs.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:29 PM   #21
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I don't have a problem with it either, it releases 2 seconds after you let off the brake. It is hilly here and there is always someone right on your butt, if you roll back at all it is going to be a problem.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:41 PM   #22
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I keep hearing bad things about the Hill Assist.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:46 PM   #23
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I honestly don't have a problem with hill assist. If you just release the brake, start giving normal amount of gas and release the clutch, the calipers will release and you start going. I have read that some people wait 3 seconds then start to release the clutch, but if you just try release clutch and give it gas you will get going. I was myself waiting the 3 seconds, but now have stopped and no I don't have any problems. Hope this helps.

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It is a 2 second delay.... Every time. At least according to the owner's manual, and in my experience... The op did what you describe, and proceeded to do a short burnout. The system is flawed, period.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:09 PM   #24
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Is this something new???? Never heard of this before. Sounds like you rookies need to buy automatics, lol.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:21 PM   #25
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This just happened. I'll try to be as succinct as possible while keeping it clear.

I was leaving the grocery store about 5:15 right in the middle of rush hour. The exit drive to pull onto the highway leading to my home is up a not insignificant hill. I was stopped for the truck in front of me (HSA was on) and when he went I pulled up and waited for it to be clear to pull out (I was turning left). HSA was on, but I'd let off the brakes as I'm accustomed to doing now so there was very little pressure holding me. When it was clear and I started to go, a car pulled out of the right turn out and suddenly looped back into the left turn out where I was trying to leave in front of me and I had to hit the brakes hard to stop.
As soon as he cleared, I was still OK to go, but didn't have the buffer I did before so I tried to go a little harder. Well, HSA was on again and since I'd stopped so hard when the idiot pulled in front of me, it held me firm. Without thinking I did as I'm now accustomed to in this car and gave it a lot more gas (rush hour highway traffic isn't the time to dawdle) and I started pulling off and was well over 3,000RPMs. Then HSA released and the rear tires broke loose and squealed (not too bad, but more than just a chirp).
Now I'm in my lane and headed home and I see blue and red lights behind me. I just knew he was coming because of me so I turned into the next road and waited and he came behind me and stopped.
It was a city cop who accused me of showing out as I was pulling out of the grocery store. I tried to explain about the Hill Start Assist, which he took to mean that I didn't know how to drive a stick and I must have rolled back and overcompensated. So he gave me the sage wisdom that I should use the handbrake to not roll back on hills like that and I wouldn't have to overpower it. (I didn't even argue since he obviously wasn't giving me a ticket).
Overall, no harm done, but still I had to deal with this and get lectured about how to drive from someone who probably has 15 less years experience in a manual trans vehicle than I do.
I'm mostly just venting but damn this "feature" should be defeatable or not exist at all. I'm dealing with it much better than I did before (not stalling anymore) but it sucks that I'm always worrying about it.
Something similar happened to me while I lived in Miami.
I was turning right at a stop sign and due to construction there was a large amount of loose gravel on the road.
When I hit the corner my tires broke loose and I was fishtailing my way into the supermarket.
Some dumba$$ off duty cop decided to give me a ticket for reckless driving.
Hired a $99 lawyer which got the case thrown out of court.
Glad you got away with only a warning.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:23 PM   #26
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I honestly don't have a problem with hill assist. If you just release the brake, start giving normal amount of gas and release the clutch, the calipers will release and you start going. I have read that some people wait 3 seconds then start to release the clutch, but if you just try release clutch and give it gas you will get going. I was myself waiting the 3 seconds, but now have stopped and no I don't have any problems. Hope this helps.

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Try making a panic stop with all that brake pressure on 14" Brembos and just smoothly pulling off and let me know how that works for ya. The SS brakes are a little more substantial than yours on that V6

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I don't have a problem with it either, it releases 2 seconds after you let off the brake. It is hilly here and there is always someone right on your butt, if you roll back at all it is going to be a problem.
I didn't have 2 seconds. That means that 3 lanes of cars I had to clear each would have traveled 170' closer to me (if they were going the speed limit). Do people that say this just pleasure cruise every other weekend or something?
Rush hour. Highway.

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Is this something new???? Never heard of this before. Sounds like you rookies need to buy automatics, lol.
That's the problem, I'm not a rookie but the system is designed for rookies. No way to turn it off. I don't want it. If you know how to drive a stick it messes you up. Maybe you should do a search if you haven't heard of it.

It holds you for 2 seconds after you release the brakes at whatever the pedal pressure had been.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:26 PM   #27
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I keep hearing bad things about the Hill Assist. I'm glad the 12's didn't come with it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:29 AM   #28
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I have felt the hill start on mine and it sucks
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