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Old 06-24-2009, 03:25 AM   #1
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Revenge of the fallen (Spoiler Alert!!! DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT!!!)

Just got home from seeing it and i must say Optimus Prime is the biggest badass in the history of all badassery. He's like the mutant spawn of the Spartans, Neo, Chuck Norris and Vassilis Paleokostas. Movie was awesome. After seeing it moving I've grown to like the Stingray concept. Everyone should see this movie.
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:41 AM   #2
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I have to say after watching it, that I liked the first movie soo much more than this one.. It is full of plot holes it isn't even funny. Hoe the heck did the parents just drop into the action in Egypt out of nowhere? Why the goofy autobots protecting Sam instead of Ironhide and Sideswipe after Optimus dies? The fight scene with Optimus where he dies was the best part of the whole movie, however almost everything else was in my opinion very poor writing.. Also, the moment after Shia is transported to Egypt, he instantly has the bandage over his hand and it doesn't show how he gets hurt? The humanized girl robot was pretty cool I have to admit and was a clear homage to the Terminator movies and Species.. Ultimately I was disappointed by this movie as you can tell.. And why ohh why is Optimus the only one that could kill that robot? He just punched the guy robot to death without using any special weapons. bumblebee crying like a little girl..The old robot farting a parachute...I can go on and on.. The humping gay dogs were funny the first time it was shown but to use the gag that many times..Oh well..

For the first movie, it was more realistic and believable. This one you have to really suspend disbelief and common sense.. I have to imagine the parents got into a Transporter like on Star Trek or borrowed from the Fly to get to the middle of the desert in Egypt..
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I was so close to watching it bootleg... than I saw this post, so I'm waiting... ughhh
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I have to say after watching it, that I liked the first movie soo much more than this one.. It is full of plot holes it isn't even funny. Hoe the heck did the parents just drop into the action in Egypt out of nowhere? Why the goofy autobots protecting Sam instead of Ironhide and Sideswipe after Optimus dies? The fight scene with Optimus where he dies was the best part of the whole movie, however almost everything else was in my opinion very poor writing.. Also, the moment after Shia is transported to Egypt, he instantly has the bandage over his hand and it doesn't show how he gets hurt? The humanized girl robot was pretty cool I have to admit and was a clear homage to the Terminator movies and Species.. Ultimately I was disappointed by this movie as you can tell.. And why ohh why is Optimus the only one that could kill that robot? He just punched the guy robot to death without using any special weapons. bumblebee crying like a little girl..The old robot farting a parachute...I can go on and on.. The humping gay dogs were funny the first time it was shown but to use the gag that many times..Oh well..

For the first movie, it was more realistic and believable. This one you have to really suspend disbelief and common sense.. I have to imagine the parents got into a Transporter like on Star Trek or borrowed from the Fly to get to the middle of the desert in Egypt..
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Parents were picked up when they were in Paris, right after eating. Remember the phone call w/ the Decepticon calling Sam's parents?

It wasn't just the 2 goofy Autobots...it was Bumble Bee as well. The rest were at the military base w/ Prime.

Sam had the bandage because his dumb-ass was drinking & driving in real life. It was stupid that they didn't explain something in the story line.

Prime was the only one that could kill it because he was the only one that was strong enough, you ever notice that he's the biggest one?

I agree, not much of a story line...but I love action, and seeing things blow up. They could have thrown more fight scenes in there & I would have loved them.
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I have to say after watching it, that I liked the first movie soo much more than this one.. It is full of plot holes it isn't even funny. Hoe the heck did the parents just drop into the action in Egypt out of nowhere?
The Decepticons kidnapped them when the attacked Paris

Why the goofy autobots protecting Sam instead of Ironhide and Sideswipe after Optimus dies?
Ironhide and sideswipe were busy holding of the Decepticons, Optimus hurt them bad but they were still mobile. Those goofy lil bastards couldn't have handled it

The fight scene with Optimus where he dies was the best part of the whole movie, however almost everything else was in my opinion very poor writing..
Agreed but like Fox said Michael Bay movies aren't so much about good acting and a riveting plot they're about fights, shootouts and explosions. Though IMO there way WAY too much comic relief

Also, the moment after Shia is transported to Egypt, he instantly has the bandage over his hand and it doesn't show how he gets hurt?
When he's on the ground when he first "gets spit out" (i dunno what that was all about) You can see him grimace and his hand is bloody
The humanized girl robot was pretty cool I have to admit and was a clear homage to the Terminator movies and Species..
That she was, though it makes you wonder why more Decepticons didn't pose as humans
Ultimately I was disappointed by this movie as you can tell.. And why ohh why is Optimus the only one that could kill that robot? He just punched the guy robot to death without using any special weapons.
Because the Primes, which the Fallen was one, are like the royal family of the Bots, so they're more powerful. The others couldn't even handle Megatron and that guy was Megatrons boss.

bumblebee crying like a little girl..The old robot farting a parachute...I can go on and on.. The humping gay dogs were funny the first time it was shown but to use the gag that many times..Oh well..
Agreed WAY too much comic relief

For the first movie, it was more realistic and believable. This one you have to really suspend disbelief and common sense..
I didn't think it was THAT bad, but too each their own

I have to imagine the parents got into a Transporter like on Star Trek or borrowed from the Fly to get to the middle of the desert in Egypt..
Parents were in Paris
Decepticon attached to the satellite called her and traced them
Decepticons then attacked Paris
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Egypt
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where you so tired from a midnight showing that you didn't pay attention supermans? lol...
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:33 AM   #8
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Thanks for the explanations.. I will be watching the movie again as my wife and best friend want to go see it on the 4th of July weekend.. I've read many of the reviews and have to disagree with all of them about John Turturo's acting.. I think he was the best part of the whole movie besides the Optimus fights.. The decepticons kidnapped the parents in Paris and brought them to Egypt however I forget how they were let go or rescued.. It just seemed like they appeared out of nowhere running towards a wounded Sam..
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Thanks for the explanations.. I will be watching the movie again as my wife and best friend want to go see it on the 4th of July weekend.. I've read many of the reviews and have to disagree with all of them about John Turturo's acting.. I think he was the best part of the whole movie besides the Optimus fights.. The decepticons kidnapped the parents in Paris and brought them to Egypt however I forget how they were let go or rescued.. It just seemed like they appeared out of nowhere running towards a wounded Sam..
when they saw sam and makela running toward the autobots one of the decepticons said "spring the trap" and the other (looked like a bulldozer) set them free.


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I just got back and it was amazing!! there were too many funny scenes though and it wasnt as intense as the first one but all the action was awesomeeee!! Transformers 3 summer 2011
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wow. just wow. all in all... it was AMAZING. not quite to the quality of the first, but i thought it was more intense. plus it was genuinely funny and had waaay more robot fighting action. and awesome cars.
all in all i loved it. i'm going up to minneapolis to see it in the imax tomorrow.
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Transformers 2 review.....(spoiler alert)

Be Forewarned !! You may not want to read this if you have not yet seen the movie?



I realize not a lot of people have seen it yet..

Am I the only one that thinks it was extremely poorly written/directed and non-satisfactory?

Dialogue was SUPER cheesey, the humor was really lame minus a few circumstantial funnies that were actually funny.

I DID like the movie, despite what you might assume from my comments. But really the only things I like about the movie is the visual artists work... the animation, the people who animated, created the concepts, and created the skins and everything else... I am probably more appreciative than the average viewer because I do have a background in animation so I know more of what's going on with that work..... (I also have a background in acting though) I don't claim to be any better... but i hate seeing poop actors in big movies just because they got their big break and made all the right friends and because todays teenagers love them.

I hate to say it but I'd rather have seen the film done without any real people in it. Give me some CGI completely fictational people and focus on the robots. I paid to see transformers transforming and kicking ass, and a camaro. Not sweet valley high with robots in the back ground. I love movies, and I am a fan of animation and the OLD transformers.. Yes the Camaro looks HOT but not enough to make a movie a good movie.

Shia the beef and Megan Dog (yesss I am being harsh, but they don't do anything for a potentially epic story). are both terrible terrible actors. Shia I swear.. is one of those single identity actors that only plays one character in all his movies. the same frantic talk too fast always breaking a sweat panic every second on screen cluts that just happens to be persistant enough to man up when the situation calls for it.

Melodrama is way over the top in this movie... THANKS MICHAEL BAY. I dunno, as an 80's kid, growing up with the GOOD cartoons, and the GOOD tv shows... and the GOOD comics and toys... I'm a little frustrated at it turning into Ohh lets blow the melodrama out of proportion and give Sam and his girlfriend too much screen time, and not enough ROBOT screen time. TRANSFORMING screen time.

Megan..... I hate to say it but I don't think she's aging well..... I thought she was hotter in the first one... She's still attractive don't get me wrong but I think the down hill has already begun or maybe just shitty directing/make-up..
Anyway I have no doubt whatsoever that some people will still think she's hot as hell... I guess I just have different taste.. (again I don't deny she's attractive) but mehh...

Megan lost my respect when she said "camshaft" and when they show her in "the pose" painting. I dunno. Yes that's bad script and bad directing choices but she's not far off in reality.

Anyways, despite all this, I love movies... andddd I will say that I don't regret going to see it, because its transformers.. with a Camaro in it. Because you do get to see some kick ass robots kicking ass.

Decent movie. But Michael Bay is not capable of realizing the potential of transformers. Bad call letting him get his paws on Transformers. Good call on GM's behalf for getting involved. The camaro got way better screen time this time imo.. Enough that you could easily market a Bumble Bee movie just based off of the audience reactions and all the gimics/toys hype around his character. (GM Know's this but is handling it poorly as of yet)

Also tasteless was I think the use of profanity in this movie.. It was really kiddy and got laughs out of teenagers and kids.... and "certain" adults. But it was kinda lame that the whole point of profanity in this movie was to TRY and get people to laugh..... I have nothing against profanity but that is probably the first time I just thought it was a bit akward. It was like trying to watch someone try way too hard to be "cool" infront of EVERYONE... And it not going very well.. (That's what this movie felt like to me).

Hopefully better script/direction/story line for future sequels.
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when they saw sam and makela running toward the autobots one of the decepticons said "spring the trap" and the other (looked like a bulldozer) set them free.


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OK, I missed that line of dialogue then..lol..I guess the trap didn't work out very well then..

They really made this one for the kids.. It is not meant for adults to enjoy as much in my opinion.. Perhaps Transformers 3 will have a better storyline.. So far this one goes as the way of a "bad sequel" instead of a great sequel like Star Trek II, Terminator 2 or Empire Strikes Back, or evenTemple of Doom.. Transformers 2 ranks up there with Ghostbusters 2 in my opinion..
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Well, I agree that Michael Bay movies are more about action that plot, which is why I thought Pearl Harbor was cool. I just watch it for the actual bombing. But, I just saw Transformers 2 and yes, there are a few holes in the story which could be told better, the story was kinda rushed, and the part in Egypt was kinda dragged on. Kinda heavy on the swearing, compared to the first movie. Also, they have got to stop "hiding" the action. For example, when Ironhide first transformed, it was so fast and unclear even though it took like 15 seconds. And the fight scenes are always kind of short and skewered by trees, pillars, walls, etc. The camera is always in the wrong place.

But other than that, I thought the movie was awesome. The "FATALITY"s or Finishing Moves were killer. Optimus Prime is FREAKING BADASS. The Corvette was sexy, the "Z28" Bumblebee was awesome, and overall, it's very enjoyable. Go see it
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I agree with the profanity bit. It was awkward, and the first one never had so much. I think the movie should have stuck with robots battling on earth than human "drama" with robot action in the background. It's like the movie was trying too hard to be likable when it should have just let the Transformers shine.
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I agree with the profanity bit. It was awkward, and the first one never had so much. I think the movie should have stuck with robots battling on earth than human "drama" with robot action in the background. It's like the movie was trying too hard to be likable when it should have just let the Transformers shine.
Exactly, the movie should have centered around and been in the point of view of Optimus Prime and not Shia.. Having it centered around Shia in the first film worked because it was a story of a boy and his car.. However the second movie was so convoluted and you barely get to see all the cool characters throughout. Having it centered around Optimus would have been amazing. Sideswipe was cool however we only saw him at the start. Ironhide was at Optimus's side while the important mission work was given to two goof-ups and a crying Bumblebee..
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Well, I agree that Michael Bay movies are more about action that plot, which is why I thought Pearl Harbor was cool. I just watch it for the actual bombing. But, I just saw Transformers 2 and yes, there are a few holes in the story which could be told better, the story was kinda rushed, and the part in Egypt was kinda dragged on. Kinda heavy on the swearing, compared to the first movie. Also, they have got to stop "hiding" the action. For example, when Ironhide first transformed, it was so fast and unclear even though it took like 15 seconds. And the fight scenes are always kind of short and skewered by trees, pillars, walls, etc. The camera is always in the wrong place.

But other than that, I thought the movie was awesome. The "FATALITY"s or Finishing Moves were killer. Optimus Prime is FREAKING BADASS. The Corvette was sexy, the "Z28" Bumblebee was awesome, and overall, it's very enjoyable. Go see it
I agree with the hiding the action part. WTH! Back off of them a little bit so I can see what's going on. I'm watching a fight with two twenty foot robots from three feet away! That's like putting a 70" widescreen in a room that is a 7' X7'! It just drives ya nuts. I am also happy the Optimus wasn't a wimp like he was in the first movie! That really ticked me off.
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I agree with the hiding the action part. WTH! Back off of them a little bit so I can see what's going on. I'm watching a fight with two twenty foot robots from three feet away! That's like putting a 70" widescreen in a room that is a 7' X7'! It just drives ya nuts. I am also happy the Optimus wasn't a wimp like he was in the first movie! That really ticked me off.
I know! It's like you need full 1080p HD and a half just to make out the jumbled up mix of robot-on-robot action. The only parts that you can actually see details, like edges and distinct parts of the robot, is when they slow down the action for like the finishing move

But those slow-mo moves and Optimus Prime stepping up make up for it though. Haha, when he got back up in the forest...EPIC
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I agree with the hiding the action part. WTH! Back off of them a little bit so I can see what's going on. I'm watching a fight with two twenty foot robots from three feet away! That's like putting a 70" widescreen in a room that is a 7' X7'! It just drives ya nuts. I am also happy the Optimus wasn't a wimp like he was in the first movie! That really ticked me off.


He was just such a you-know-what in the first movie; not this one though. He was a friggin' animal!

IMHO - I liked the movie even more than the first. I also agree with the action. I thought it was super intense, but hard to follow because of the cinematography. I didn't really have a problem with the plot. The two little things I had small problems with were points where I thought there was too much CGI and things started becoming unrealistic and sometimes the physics, to my humble understanding, just weren't making sense. I thought there were a bunch of good little laughs, a lot of emotion, and a whole lotta' action. I waited three hours to see the first showing this morning at 12:01, so I'm dragging a lot right now, but I know I'll be going back to see it soon - probably in IMAX. There was a lot more swearing in it, though it wasn't anything for me to get all worked-up about. That, and there was more violent scenes (where you would actually see CGI-people get killed, or drown, etc.). I think it made the movie a little more dramatic, but just seemed less like a family movie to me.

Anyways - I'd give this movie as high a rating as I could. I'll be the first in-line when in comes out in Blue-ray the moment it's released. I thought it was better in almost every way than the first, and really look forward to wearing that disc out

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PS - I couldn't help but stare at Bumblebee's "Z28" hood every time he was on screen, LOL.
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Did anyone else notice that they actually said the president was Obama? I found that kinda weird for the movie to go with the current president of the USA. Usually they just make up a president for the sake of the movie. Does anybody else find that weird or is that just me?
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You have to see this movie with the mind set that its not going to be a "Titanic".

Meaning its Michael Bay, and he spent 80% on explosions, 18% on CGI and 2% on actors.

All of Michael Bay films have massive pot holes. The Island, Bad Boys 1 and 2 etc.

I HATED the comedy in the first 1 but in this 1 most of it kind of grew on me. The twins were funny as hell, the little RC truck was funny, most of it was funny.

I love how they had robots everywhere in the movie. And the dessert fight scene was what....45 minutes of robots and explosions....what more can you ask for in a action film?

Out of 10 I would have to give it a strong 6 maybe even a 7.

I will def. go see it again. I'm a HUGE Transformers fan.
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^Yeah, I didn't know what to think of that. There is a battle going on, and all of the sudden they show the dogs humpingWTF?
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Uh, what? I'm an '80s kid, too, but have you actually watched the original Transformers cartoon? Or any of those old cartoons? I watched the entirety of the G1 series last year (bought it on DVD) and it's all pretty painful to watch.

Just like how we of that general age hold the original Star Wars movies as excellent movies. If you go back and watch them today (Empire aside), they're not that much better than the new trilogy. Just because we thought it was good as a kid doesn't mean it was good in the long run...
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