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Old 04-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #1
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CAI??? Why do I need it?

I'm new to upgrading newer cars and I guess you can say set in my ways. My question is why do I need CAI? I'm having trouble understanding why I need something that cost so much for such little gains that I feel I can get from a clean K&N filter. I don't see where I'm getting any extra air coming in that would justify needing that setup. Can anyone please explain to me why I need it other than "New cars just need it" or "It is needed with headers because u need the extra air coming in because of the exhaust going out." All input will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:43 PM   #2
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You don't need it.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #3
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you don't need it, but you want it. That's even better.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:50 PM   #4
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Im no expert here but CAI allows a greater volume of air to enter your engine (thus the modest hp increase). Greater "cold" airflow also drops the temperature in the engine block so along with better hp, you get faster throttle response, better fuel economy and greater engine life....plus it is an easy DIY mod (it won't void your warranty either as long as you get one that does not require a tune). It should be noted that the new Z-28 and Ford Shelby come with CAI.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:52 PM   #5
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k and n filter clean or not has no gains sorry to burst your bubble
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My CAI intake raised my MPG by 2. It also has better throttle response and sounds pretty cool. I knew I needed it for my future mods, I'll also have to get Long tube headers. You wont need a CAI unless your application requires it. I did it for the HP gains and better MPG
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:54 PM   #7
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Read the post "Whoosh" and see if you still wonder
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:54 PM   #8
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I don't want it because of the price to gain ratio. I will buy it if anyone can honestly explain to me why I need but so far no one can other than saying the camaro just needs it. I recently ordered the 1 7/8 TSP long tube headers with off road extensions and within the next month or 2 I will be ordering a cam from them as well.
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k and n filter clean or not has no gains sorry to burst your bubble
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:56 PM   #10
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Your engine is basically a big air pump. The greater the volume of air you can efficiently suck in and blow out the more power you can make. The thing you have to keep in mind is that your engine is a system of systems and each one effects and builds on the other. If you upgrade one area and not the others then you will not see the full benefit of that upgrade.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:00 PM   #12
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Your engine is basically a big air pump. The greater the volume of air you can efficiently suck in and blow out the more power you can make. The thing you have to keep in mind is that your engine is a system of systems and each one effects and builds on the other. If you upgrade one area and not the others then you will not see the full benefit of that upgrade.
I agree 100%.

With long tubes but stock intake they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the Long tubes correct?
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:01 PM   #13
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Your engine is basically a big air pump. The greater the volume of air you can efficiently suck in and blow out the more power you can make. The thing you have to keep in mind is that your engine is a system of systems and each one effects and builds on the other. If you upgrade one area and not the others then you will not see the full benefit of that upgrade.

About to say that, but someone beat me to it (that also has the proper experience).
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I agree 100%.

With long tubes but stock intake they wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the Long tubes correct?
Exactly.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:03 PM   #15
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Exactly.
I plan on doing Longtubes, thats why I got my CAI intake. Also JRE showed how much of a gain the CAI gave, so I was happy. Plus the MPG gain is Sweet
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:04 PM   #16
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:51 PM   #17
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You keep saying ''need'' buy what you want. I promise your car won't break if you don't have it, if that's what you're wondering...I bought it because it let's my car breath and it sounds great (also adds hp and better gas milage).
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:04 PM   #18
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Go to the Engine Mod section of these forums and you see very quickly that a CIA, Long Tube headers, Exhaust and a tune will be very noticable!
By far the best MODS you can do for the money! Just a CIA not much there but you add the other three! they all go perfect together and it will be a totaly different car. Go to that forum and read around. You'll learn alot. Good section. Personaly I wouldn't do a CIA if I didn't plan on doing the others. Your helping letting air in but it still has to go out.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:18 PM   #19
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Thanks for the input guys. I really appreciate everything and I will be buying a CAI.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:43 PM   #21
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Your engine is basically a big air pump. The greater the volume of air you can efficiently suck in and blow out the more power you can make. The thing you have to keep in mind is that your engine is a system of systems and each one effects and builds on the other. If you upgrade one area and not the others then you will not see the full benefit of that upgrade.



Thanks for the help and clarity, I have another question you might be able to help with. I'm wanting to order a cam in the next few months and have been looking at TSP LS3 231/236 or the LS3 235/239. I'm wanting a cam that is almost too big for street but not quite big enough for the track. As you familiar with these cams or are the any other cams you might recommend?
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:49 PM   #22
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it's well worth the money, it looks good, it sounds good, it frees up a lot of space under the hood which makes maintenance much easier, you'll be glad you bought it and it will pay for itself is gas savings over the years, not to mention replacing paper filters. Do it right, just buy the whole intake, you've got a $25,000 car, a $300 intake is a drop in the bucket.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:55 PM   #23
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k and n filter clean or not has no gains sorry to burst your bubble
IMO k&n is crap.
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IMO k&n is crap.
Yeah they used to be great and big hyped, but now there are so many better options out there.

I think K&N sell some today just with their name.

I think Cold Air Inductions got the best name for what they sell haha
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:10 PM   #25
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Vararam!!! Ftw lol I had a k&n and I can tell the Vararam is just a different sense of power all together.
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