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Old 02-20-2008, 11:11 PM   #1
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Angry This is ridiculous!!!!

Here it is, nearly the end of February, and GM is only 6 months away from supposed production start and they still can't tell us what the f*#king motors or price is going to be for the Camaro. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! WTF GM!!! As you can tell I'm getting a little aggrivated now. They know what the motors are going to be and they know what the price is gonna be by now, TELL US ALREADY!!!!
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:14 PM   #2
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Its a marketing strategy they're trying to draw you in and keep your attention on the camaro keep you watching to see what happens.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:31 PM   #3
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Its a marketing strategy they're trying to draw you in and keep your attention on the camaro keep you watching to see what happens.
They're pissing me off is what they're doing! lol

As some of you may or may not know I'm a salesmanager at a Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha dealership. I went to the Honda Dealer Show in Sept of 2007. They unveil a new CBR1000RR due to be in our showrooms in March. Very nice bike. So I go upto one of the Honda brass and ask how much it weighs and the horsepower. He looks at me and says "we don't know". "You don't know?", I ask. Isn't that the ****ing bike right there? That's not a mirage is it? How the hell do you not know how much it weighs or the HP? He says, "well we're waiting to see what the competion has before we say. Even more puzzled, I ask "are you planning on redesigning it before it hit our floors in 5 months"? The guy says no, not enough time. So I say, "then what difference does it make you can't change anything, the weight is what it is and the HP is what it is, might as well let us know". BTW- I really hate Honda. What an arrogant, pain in the ass company to work with. There dealer support is horrible.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:12 AM   #4
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The lower Challenger models and the new Mustang can still be adjusted (yes, last minute changes can and do happen) so the longer GM waits, the more they know and the less the competition knows. And pricing isn't decided until the very last minute. We know it will be priced competitively with the Mustang. Maybe a tad higher, but same ballpark. We know it will have competitive power, trim level for trim level, with the other pony cars. Many people (myself included) believe we'll see the Gen V engines in the Camaro, and those are just now being introduced. Will releasing the engine and specs early swing any prospective buyers one way or another? Not many. So why tip their hand early? It serves GM no benefit.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:20 AM   #5
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^Yep. I don't understand the Honda guys...if it can't be changed, what's the point. But, we can see that the prices and engines/weight could be changed if need be. With that being the case, best to keep quiet. Don'tcha worry...we'll find out soon.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:27 AM   #6
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Here it is, nearly the end of February, and GM is only 6 months away from supposed production start and they still can't tell us what the f*#king motors or price is going to be for the Camaro. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! WTF GM!!! As you can tell I'm getting a little aggrivated now. They know what the motors are going to be and they know what the price is gonna be by now, TELL US ALREADY!!!!
We've all felt that at one point or another. the progression of emotion will be something along the lines of

after the concept has been seen
after hearing how long it will be
at not knowing what the engines and weight will be
at still not knowing what the engines and weight will be
after hearing what they will be
once we put our name on the dotted line
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:50 AM   #7
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lol Aries I like you.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:15 AM   #8
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:12 AM   #9
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They're pissing me off is what they're doing! lol

As some of you may or may not know I'm a salesmanager at a Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha dealership. I went to the Honda Dealer Show in Sept of 2007. They unveil a new CBR1000RR due to be in our showrooms in March. Very nice bike. So I go upto one of the Honda brass and ask how much it weighs and the horsepower. He looks at me and says "we don't know". "You don't know?", I ask. Isn't that the ****ing bike right there? That's not a mirage is it? How the hell do you not know how much it weighs or the HP? He says, "well we're waiting to see what the competion has before we say. Even more puzzled, I ask "are you planning on redesigning it before it hit our floors in 5 months"? The guy says no, not enough time. So I say, "then what difference does it make you can't change anything, the weight is what it is and the HP is what it is, might as well let us know". BTW- I really hate Honda. What an arrogant, pain in the ass company to work with. There dealer support is horrible.
now that is funny-> i haven't laughed that hard in awhile.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:18 AM   #10
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Its a marketing strategy they're trying to draw you in and keep your attention on the camaro keep you watching to see what happens.
Agreed, and I know I've been joking about being a 5th Gen Camaro Crack Head.

But, I'm starting to realize when they do release the engines specs and prices most people will make and immediate decision as to whether they will buy or not. There's no going back after that point. They will either loose consumers or gain them. That's got to be a little scary for GM. And Yes I agree that they need to keep the competition in the dark as long as possible. However, my guess the competition knows more about what GM is doing behind the scenes than we do. The intelligence gathering capabilities of major corporations rivals our own government's.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:20 AM   #11
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They're pissing me off is what they're doing! lol

As some of you may or may not know I'm a salesmanager at a Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha dealership. I went to the Honda Dealer Show in Sept of 2007. They unveil a new CBR1000RR due to be in our showrooms in March. Very nice bike. So I go upto one of the Honda brass and ask how much it weighs and the horsepower. He looks at me and says "we don't know". "You don't know?", I ask. Isn't that the ****ing bike right there? That's not a mirage is it? How the hell do you not know how much it weighs or the HP? He says, "well we're waiting to see what the competion has before we say. Even more puzzled, I ask "are you planning on redesigning it before it hit our floors in 5 months"? The guy says no, not enough time. So I say, "then what difference does it make you can't change anything, the weight is what it is and the HP is what it is, might as well let us know". BTW- I really hate Honda. What an arrogant, pain in the ass company to work with. There dealer support is horrible.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:27 AM   #12
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I feel your pain, Aries...I think we all do. But I do believe that we're more near 8 months until production is supposed to start - right? Feb. - October = ~8 months?

Just hang in there...think of this as the calm before the storm - ha, because it's gonna be one Helluva Storm!!!




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after hearing how long it will be
at not knowing what the engines and weight will be
at still not knowing what the engines and weight will be
We've just got to treck through this rough part...and KEEP THE FAITH!

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at still not knowing what the engines and weight will be
I really think that we are at this point though, so I don't think we'll have to wait much longer...not much longer at all.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:41 AM   #13
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..... Just hang in there...think of this as the calm before the storm - ha, because it's gonna be one Helluva Storm!!!
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:39 PM   #14
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I love surprises! Don' t worry. Camaro engines will make more power than the SRT-8 Challenger and Mustang GT and still be priced between them.
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Old 02-23-2008, 06:07 PM   #15
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You know, that just don't seem possible, 8 months? It's getting close. .
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:22 AM   #16
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Truly I dont care when we know all of the specs on the new Camaro. I KNOW I am going to buy one. It will just help me make my decision. Top of the line V8 is all I truly want to know about. Because thats the one I'm getting.
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:04 AM   #17
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Take a deep breath man. GRAB A HOLD OF YOURSELF!
no but really, chill.
Find a girl or something
no i take that back, girls just make things worse.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:11 AM   #18
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Here it is, nearly the end of February, and GM is only 6 months away from supposed production start and they still can't tell us what the f*#king motors or price is going to be for the Camaro. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! WTF GM!!! As you can tell I'm getting a little aggrivated now. They know what the motors are going to be and they know what the price is gonna be by now, TELL US ALREADY!!!!
All this is being done on purpose. It is like playing poker. They do not wnat to show their hand too soon to the competitors. I KNOW you will not be disappointed. Trust me.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:40 AM   #19
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I KNOW you will not be disappointed. Trust me.
This? coming from our Powertrain guy?
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:36 PM   #20
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All this is being done on purpose. It is like playing poker. They do not wnat to show their hand too soon to the competitors. I KNOW you will not be disappointed. Trust me.
so you have a better idea than the rest of us, that so not fair ... but i understand that you can't say much... i still wish that i knew what they'r gonna do though...
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