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Old 04-29-2013, 06:26 PM   #401
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Corvette stole the tail lights from the Camaro, now we get regular cookie cutter tail lamps... The grille is way to small. It looks squinty eyed now...

Personally, I think the new Vette and this Camaro now look worse than the previous. Especially the Vette, its got more stick on plastic chrome trim bling than you can find on a Compton street at night...

Way to screw up your line up GM...
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:32 PM   #402
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Corvette stole the tail lights from the Camaro, now we get regular cookie cutter tail lamps... The grille is way to small. It looks squinty eyed now...

Personally, I think the new Vette and this Camaro now look worse than the previous. Especially the Vette, its got more stick on plastic chrome trim bling than you can find on a Compton street at night...

Way to screw up your line up GM...
The new Vette looks Fantastic!

The Z/28 looks Awesome! (I do prefer the 2010-2013 rear though)
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:34 PM   #403
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The new Vette looks Fantastic!

The Z/28 looks Awesome! (I do prefer the 2010-2013 rear though)
Its all hard angles, it doesn`t flow like a Vette should, looks more like a Ferrari. I want a Vette to look like a Vette.


Oh, and Camaro called and wants its tail lamps back...

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Old 04-29-2013, 07:18 PM   #404
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Too bad they don't look that good. All I see is.....


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Old 04-29-2013, 07:33 PM   #405
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Its all hard angles, it doesn`t flow like a Vette should, looks more like a Ferrari. I want a Vette to look like a Vette.


Oh, and Camaro called and wants its tail lamps back...

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It was time for the Corvette to move forward it has been stuck in a design rut as they've been variations on the 1968 model for too long. The rear lamps look nothing like a Camaro's.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:55 PM   #406
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Are the rims on the red car these?
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:02 PM   #407
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Are the rims on the red car these?
No, the ones on the red car are 18" and a different design.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:06 PM   #408
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Corvette stole the tail lights from the Camaro, now we get regular cookie cutter tail lamps... The grille is way to small. It looks squinty eyed now...

Personally, I think the new Vette and this Camaro now look worse than the previous. Especially the Vette, its got more stick on plastic chrome trim bling than you can find on a Compton street at night...

Way to screw up your line up GM...
I have always thought that the new Corvette tail lamp should have been the evolutionary step of the Camaro refresh or even better, the 6th gen Camaro. Now that the Corvette has that, the Camaro team has to go for another design unfortunately, so on that I can agree with you.

Where I disagree is your overall comment on the Vette. The Vette still looks like a Corvette. Someone took to the current design and photoshopped a rear hatch window like the current gen has and it looked like a perfect evolution of the current car. Its just the near rear window and the tail lights that throw it off somewhat, but it is a damn good looking car. Beautiful...and you are in the minority with your opinion. Tail lights....they are good looking, but on the wrong car.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:15 PM   #410
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IMO the new Corvette is awesome. The new Camaro is well, how do I say it, humm, what would be the word, humm, maybe it's best not to say anything at all..

Ah screw it, I don't like it, the back end will just blend in with all the other cars out there. The chrome strip on the front is out of place, the lower grill is ugly, need I say more?
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:32 PM   #411
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Moaning on the '14 Camaro aside, I think the new Corvette is spot on. The Corvette is more an American interpretation of a "world class" sports car IMO.

Versus the Vette, GM may think the Camaro as competing with BMW 3 coupes, Audi A5, and so on at some point. I agree this could happen, but aiming directly at that market is a mistake. The Camaro needs to retain it identity as a distinctly American interpretation of the sport coupe. I am *so* glad I bought a Camaro over a BMW. I am really excited about this car. The '14 Z/28 makes those cars look like toys despite the bad tail and the SS is an incredible value.

The interesting thing is the 6.2 is really not any worse on fuel than the European cars. Having said that with all of the new domestic oil, we're fine with CAFE at current levels. Fuel should remain about where it is now for years. The next administration may water down the Obama tightening.

I also don't understand why Ford wants to sell the Mustang in Europe. How many will they sell? 2000? Fuel is $8-11/gal. Its a complete distraction. Maybe its just a way to say the new Mustang is competitive with European coupes.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:10 AM   #412
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Are the rims on the red car these?
Get to the opthamologist pronto! They're not even close. The wheels on the Red one are 18's and a totally different pattern. Why would they put a ZL1 wheel on a 6?
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:13 AM   #413
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:14 AM   #414
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If the chrome lip-strip on the front doesn't make the new Camaro look cheap, the new rear-end does. What's the deal with the sagging mufflers -- it looks like you hit one good pot-hole and you've lost half your exhaust system. The rear license plate area is dumb [like the cops need a larger area to get a good view of your plate?], the rear tail-lights aren't classy and after thinking about it, I'm glad to own my 2010!!!!!
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:32 AM   #415
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:37 AM   #416
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Its all hard angles, it doesn`t flow like a Vette should, looks more like a Ferrari. I want a Vette to look like a Vette.


Oh, and Camaro called and wants its tail lamps back...

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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwAA&dur=3184
I agree 100%!
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:53 PM   #417
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Don't know if it has been asked yet but it seems to me that it may be possible to replace the 2014 front and rear fascia with the 2013. Can anyone confirm this? If so I may be willing to do this unless I can still find a new 2013 by the time I can afford to get it. The rear may be more complicated and might have to replace the trunk lid as well. I was waiting for 2014 but GM messed that up for me with the refresh.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:58 PM   #418
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whats with the stupid chrome strip?!?!?! chrome doesn't belong on this car.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:09 PM   #419
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STILL waiting to see the SS without RS front end.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:55 PM   #420
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Don't know if it has been asked yet but it seems to me that it may be possible to replace the 2014 front and rear fascia with the 2013. Can anyone confirm this? If so I may be willing to do this unless I can still find a new 2013 by the time I can afford to get it. The rear may be more complicated and might have to replace the trunk lid as well. I was waiting for 2014 but GM messed that up for me with the refresh.
I think a rear end swap will be quite complicated for two reasons:

1) The exhaust seems to angle up more than previous years. This would mean bending the exhaust or mounts when installing the old diffuser.

2) The center brake light is now on the trunk lid. In previous years it was on the body adjacent to the trunk lid. This means drilling holes after obtaining the old style brake light.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:41 PM   #421
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They give you those stupid tail lights with the non-rs package might as well give us the halo headlights to even it out.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:04 PM   #422
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Well I think you should tell this girl that she has fans on here which have been hating the 14s since day 1. Her opinion sounds exactly like the opinions of the haters on here and based on your assessment of your friend she isn't a car enthusiast ... I've been calling the haters pansies myself.
I decided to get an opinion from someone that hasn't stared at the camaro for 4 years as a more neutral perspective so they can't be called a hater.

However, she doesn't hate the 14s. It's a good looking car still. She said she probably wouldn't have noticed too much if I didn't show her the two cars side by side. She does prefer the 10-13 design though.

I don't think this will hurt sales of the camaro. Hopefully it draws in a new market into the lineup.

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I keep looking at the different shots of the 2014, hoping I will see what the design engineers see that made them choose to make these changes, but it is just not happening. There were four good years (2010-2013) for the fifth gen, so 4 out of five is not bad. Regardless of all the commentary & opinions, the only thing that is going to matter is sales. If Camaro sales go up in 2014 those that don't like the changes are going to be eating our words.
I doubt people will be eating their words. I don't think the changes are drastic enough for someone to not buy a camaro. I also hope that the changes start to appeal to new buyers.

I think when it comes to the front of the SS the design team did right by making the fog lights squared off. The 10-13 was essentially a block/square design and then you had these round fog lights up front that looked out of place.

I slightly dislike the squished grill over the 10-13, but overall I think the front end is well done. I just prefer the 10-13.

The v6 front end on the other hand I do not like at all because it retains the round fog lights that now look even worse than the 10-13 and has the squished grill.

The back end and taillights is something I am not a fan. It took unique design styling and just made it plain.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #423
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Just bought an AGM 2LT this weekend because I can not stand the 2014, liked the retro look the older model gave with the bigger grill and tail lights. These new ones completely lose that.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:54 PM   #424
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It was time for the Corvette to move forward it has been stuck in a design rut as they've been variations on the 1968 model for too long. The rear lamps look nothing like a Camaro's.
Yep, I agree. Since 1968, all the model years still have that same basic Mako Shark styling. I would have liked to see something totally new for 2014.
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Those tail lights honestly just made me gag...
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