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Old 04-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #1
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So what's the general opinion(s) on waterless car washing?

first off, I'm not one of these Adam's product loyalists so please people, don't start chiming in with your Adam's recommendations. that's not what my thread is about. I'm asking what people think about waterless car wash products.

I've heard good and bad things about these so called waterless car wash products and I wanted to ask the pros in this section of the forum to see what they have to say.

case in point. my buddy that drives a black 2012 Corvette GS that looks awesome 99% of the time. he tells me he uses the waterless car wash products from below and has been super happy since last summer. we all know the color black is the easiest to show problems like paint swirling which quite often comes from having dirt in wash mits or sponges. like I said, my buddy only washes his car with the product below and I can't find one single paint swirl on his car.

so I'm wondering if any one has used this product or something to the same effect. what do u think?

http://shop.sparklesdetail.com/WASH-...CCPCG029R1.htm
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:46 AM   #2
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I use Adam's waterless wash and love it. I was originally using spray detailer when the car was dusty and was noticing small scratches. I did a full paint correction and then switched to Adam's waterless wash and have noticed very few if any scratches in the paint. It has more of a lubricating effect to minimize scratching. I like it so much that I bought their waterless wash kit at Carlisle this past weekend.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:22 PM   #3
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With any waterless washing product - ours or anyone elses - PROPER TECHNIQUE is more important than anything else. The best waterless product, used incorrectly, is useless.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:33 PM   #4
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I can not speak from personal experiance, but I went to a detail clinic with about another 24 other camaro guys. The demo was done by a detailer that is also an Adam's supplier. One of the products that he demonstrated on was the adams product mentioned just above my post.
He did this on a white camaro loaded with bug marks on the front bumper. Just sprayed on the wash and then wiped after a minute or so, they came right off. Are there better products then the Adam's, most likely, but the stuff did a great job. Like I said since I have not tried it yet, I leave this answer to better qualified then myself. But I think this does have a place
in your arsenal of cleaning supplies.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:45 PM   #5
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Waterless wash still makes me nervous. I will use it on my car if it is dusty, but that's about it. Anything that's "stuck on" the paint, such as mud, or dirt after a rain storm, I break out the full wash, or at the least, a rinseless wash.

IMO waterless wash is for dusty cars, rinseless wash is for lightly soiled cars, and a full 2-bucket wash is for a soiled car. When in doubt, break out the full wash kit. Adding an extra 30 minutes to clean the car is much better than putting in swirls that will take a day to remove.

And I wasn't sure if you were looking for a product recommendation, but for waterless wash, I love Ultima Waterless Wash Plus, and for rinseless it's Optimum No Rinse.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:54 PM   #6
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Waterless Wash is awesome stuff! But just as Dylan said technique is key. And as CD07 said, you have to know when the right time to use it is.

I explain both in my review of Ultima Waterless Wash (which is my favorite waterless wash).

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Old 04-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #7
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Waterless wash is getting more popular everyday. Your technique is very important and will make or brake the results that you experience. Chemical Guys Ecosmart and Optimum Opti-Clean are my go to products.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:36 PM   #8
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I need to go check Phil @ Detailer Domain and get me some waterless wash. Great video man. Very informative
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:31 PM   #9
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When I have a good coat of wax or sealant on my cars, the first thing I do when I see dust or pollen is to blast it with the Stihl electric leaf blower. A lot comes off this way. Then I decide if I need to do anything else.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:41 PM   #10
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Are the waterless washes good for brake dust and the dust/crude that collects behind the rear spoiler??
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Is this stuff safe to use under the wheel bay? (Where all the dirt splashes from the water/dirt in the wheel bay)

Also... What if you have have a large chunk of mud... Wouldn't rubbing that around scratch stuff up?

Also, how often should this product be used? Can I use it often?

One more thing, how long does it take to do the wash?
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:44 PM   #12
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Is this stuff safe to use under the wheel bay? (Where all the dirt splashes from the water/dirt in the wheel bay)

Also... What if you have have a large chunk of mud... Wouldn't rubbing that around scratch stuff up?

Also, how often should this product be used? Can I use it often?

One more thing, how long does it take to do the wash?
Sure, it's a waste of product though. Might as well just use water.

If you have mud, you don't use this. That was said earlier...

You can use it as often as you want, so long as you use it properly.

About 30 minutes.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:49 PM   #13
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Sure, it's a waste of product though. Might as well just use water.

If you have mud, you don't use this. That was said earlier...

You can use it as often as you want, so long as you use it properly.

About 30 minutes.
Hmm... And how is the shine on this product after everything is done?

I park under a sappy tree... Will this remove it or ATLEAST create a nice coat so I can just rinse it with water and the sap will be removed easily?
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:01 PM   #14
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Hmm... And how is the shine on this product after everything is done?

I park under a sappy tree... Will this remove it or ATLEAST create a nice coat so I can just rinse it with water and the sap will be removed easily?
You need wax or a sealant to do that effectively.
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Hmm... And how is the shine on this product after everything is done?

I park under a sappy tree... Will this remove it or ATLEAST create a nice coat so I can just rinse it with water and the sap will be removed easily?
Why would you park under a sappy tree? Regardless of its proximity to your house...
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:20 PM   #16
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I only use it if the had very very light dust.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:51 PM   #17
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I dont consider myself a pro but I bought a gallon of waterless wash, used it once and didn't like it. Call it whatever you want, technique, poor product..... I don't use it. I live in the desert so you can't drive 5 miles without getting a light coating of dust after a detail. Cal duster works great, if you can't get it off with a duster.. time for a wash. So needless to say, I don't like WW..
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I dont consider myself a pro but I bought a gallon of waterless wash, used it once and didn't like it. Call it whatever you want, technique, poor product..... I don't use it. I live in the desert so you can't drive 5 miles without getting a light coating of dust after a detail. Cal duster works great, if you can't get it off with a duster.. time for a wash. So needless to say, I don't like WW..

What brand did you buy?
What did you not like it about it?
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What brand did you buy?
What did you not like it about it?
Adams, Ultima.. I'm not bashing the products I just get to a point where the time and effort using these products, I find pointless. I spend more time, it seems, using ww than doing a complete wash.. A good Cal duster works for me, others hate Cal dusters and swear they don't work.. What's the saying, the less you touch they paint the less chance if swirls.. Nothing in my opinion has lubricity as a good car shampoo. Nothing wrong with these products, I guess I just don't like the process that's all.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:22 PM   #20
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I use the waterless wash all the time. And being in the Pacific NW, I use it especially during winter, because it's just raining too much for a proper wash. It takes me about 20 minutes to do the entire car, and it works well on light road spray. And, at this time of year, it's great for taking care of that light coating of pollen that covers everything.

But as mentioned above, to avoid swirls, its essential that you use good technique, use plenty of product, and make sure you use good, clean towels - because you just wont have the same amount of lubrication that you will with soap/water.

If you have mud or dirt on the car, you should perform a proper wash. But it's great for those times where you don't really need or have the time to do one.

Oh, and personally, I prefer Adams.
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