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Old 08-21-2014, 09:09 PM   #1
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Recipe for 600-650RWHP without a cam!

Is it possible and still be efficient? The car will be 99.9% street driven and very few passes at the strip.
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Rotofab
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ID850's
9.5" or 10" lower
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If there is anything I have missed let me know!
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I'd say that has a good chance to be in the 600-625rwhp range with a good tuner.
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Might be low on fuel supply.
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Cut the vmax and save the money.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:10 PM   #8
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:36 PM   #12
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Might be low on fuel supply.
I think with the ID850's it should have plenty of fuel, correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:40 PM   #13
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I was kinda thinking that but wasn't sure, I can port it myself and save the money. Thanks
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9.55 pulley, headers, rotofab, Id850s, Tune and a boost-a-pump. 623 rwhp
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Recipe for 600-650RWHP without a cam!

I know you said no CAM but I have an A6 and hit 630 RWHP and drives completely stock. Went with the LS9 CAM just for that very reason. Wanted reliability and stock driving manners.


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Old 08-21-2014, 11:53 PM   #16
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I'm not going to completely rule out a cam, if I do I want the BTR Stage 3, however I will probably wait later down the road for a cam, but thanks!

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Old 08-22-2014, 12:21 AM   #17
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Is there any particular boost-a-pump that would work

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Old 08-22-2014, 05:53 AM   #18
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Cut the vmax and save the money.
I don’t know about that, I was there when these were developed. I bought all the original new cores for exchange for the LS3 and V6, that’s 40 new TB!
Increase in total HP I don’t know but they should flow more. I know the LS2 is far superior ported, they don’t have the voids the LS3 do after porting. The LS2 from GM cost is nearly double the LS3.
After all that I never got one $ent income from sales and only recovered half the cost of the new TBs and my new LS2 TB bought and paid for by me was sold to someone else! Be careful who you invest with!

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I donít know about that, I was there when these were developed. I bought all the original new cores for exchange for the LS3 and V6, thatís 40 new TB!
Increase in total HP I donít know but they should flow more. I know the LS2 is far superior ported, they donít have the voids the LS3 do after porting. The LS2 from GM cost is nearly double the LS3.
After all that I never got one $ent income from sales and only recovered half the cost of the new TBs and my new LS2 TB bought and paid for by me was sold to someone else! Be careful who you invest with!

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The LSA VMAX gave me a total HP gain of 0. It was installed last and dyno'd before install and after. No gain
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The LSA VMAX gave me a total HP gain of 0. It was installed last and dyno'd before install and after. No gain
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Is there any particular boost-a-pump that would work
The Kenne Bell Boost-a-pump worked well in my application. If you get it from Lingenfelter the have a kit specific to the Camaro with all the wiring and other parts you need plus instructions. You could save some money possible by sourcing all the little extras yourself.


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Old 08-22-2014, 11:39 AM   #22
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Is it possible and still be efficient? The car will be 99.9% street driven and very few passes at the strip.
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To make that hp you can skip the VMAX, the rest of your list looks great. I would also change to a NGK TR7 plug. It goes without saying, but have it dyno tuned afterwards. Depending on how much boost you are trying to put to it you may find yourself getting limited on timing without a cam change as well, so you want to make sure you are getting the most out of your set up without setting it on kill.

This will be a great package for street driving and it is something we sell/install all the time. No decrease in driveability and they feel like animals on the street!
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:53 PM   #23
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If you're going to tune it anyway, what about just putting an LS3 throttlebody on it?
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:43 PM   #24
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Has anyone installed the JDP ZL700 kit. Dollar for Dollar that seems like a great deal, and wouldn't that make over 600 rwhp on M6??? Seems they pick a lot of parts for you, or is a lot of those parts not needed.

Not trying to thread jack. But within two weeks I'm going to order some go fast parts and want over 600 rwhp also.

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Hey Ron let me know how this works out for you. I've thought about that kit too!
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