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Old 04-30-2013, 11:56 PM   #1
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2010 Camaro ss vs. BMW 335i xdrive

Hey everyone, I've been following the forums on camaro5 for a long time and finally I'm in a position where I can get myself my first sports car.

For the longest time all I wanted was a Camaro ss.
So talk me out getting this bmw 335i xdrive which lately has been catching my eye.
Any advice or comments are appreciated. Also, if anyone out there knows of any ss's out there for sale around 30k send me a private message. Thanks for the help everyone!
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:25 AM   #2
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What year BMW?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:30 AM   #3
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2009, black with red interior. 22000 miles
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:43 AM   #4
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its a niceee car. If you need a 4dr go for it. just as fast stock for stock in a straight line as the SS
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:51 AM   #5
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auto 335i sedan stock is meh, not that fast. 335xi is putting down 250ish awhp and no that fast really.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:40 AM   #6
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 335i have a twin turbo setup and comes in a 2-door? Nice cars but maintenance is a nightmare in the long run.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:04 AM   #7
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:16 AM   #8
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its a niceee car. If you need a 4dr go for it. just as fast stock for stock in a straight line as the SS



A 335 is not going to touch a SS stock for stock.....unless you got a crappy driver.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:18 AM   #9
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 335i have a twin turbo setup and comes in a 2-door? Nice cars but maintenance is a nightmare in the long run.
Yes it does have a TT set up. My buddy has one and with minor mods he says he could hang with a stock SS. He is a major car guy too. He loves it. There are a lot of perks the 335i has. With that tuning you can also takeover gauges, such as at WOT the fuel gauge turns into your boost gauge. He has installed a larger front mount, tune, and some aesthetic mods. But mostly stock. He down pipes he has to instal also. I love my Camaro but that car is a sweet car, it moves too.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:37 AM   #10
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No one making built bottom ends for the 335i atm from what i understand. And a rare few making 500hp. On top of that they are very touchy about the oil. Youll need to upgrade the oil cooler. Put in a baffle for the oil pan so you wont oil deprive it. Unless you want to build your own exhaust system expect to pay 1k alone. Also bolt ons and tune(600 for tune alone) yet alone someone to dyno tune, don't expect to run amazing times. A buddy of mine here in Oklahoma in a Da around 800ft only managed a best of 12.3 on drag radials. Just a warning it isn't a turn key fast car that can be made into a 600hp dd cheap or reliable like the camaro could be. Also if youre around 5.11" and its a four door the b pillar is like a dam horse visor.

Just go domestic man. Don't go the more expensive slower route
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:24 AM   #11
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A 335 is not going to touch a SS stock for stock.....unless you got a crappy driver.
Correct but I think a 135 could give a L99 fits stock for stock. Either way its alot more expensive car and crazy expensive to maintain, mod and when you do have to fix something be prepared to shell out some major coin. A frind of mine has a BMW and when it has a problem the parts and labor are crazy expensive.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #12
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I thought he was talking about a newer 335i. Stock for stock they are about as fast as the Camaro. 0-60 in 4.8 and the quarter in the low 13s.
If the op wants a car to mod in no way would I reccomend the BMW. In stock form it is much more refined than the Camaro
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The newer 335i's with 8-speed aren't as fast as the older single turbo N54's. The awd X model is putting down 20 or so whp less then the rwd variants, coupled with drivetrain loss from the auto and you can count on high 13 second car.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:25 PM   #14
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You want a muscle car or a poser import? Not a bmw fan, I have 3 friends all with bmws and all 3 have been a mantinence nightmare and i personaly dont think they much more refined.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:39 PM   #15
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no popping front suspension, no second gear grinds, a useable back seat, awd traction. It's a great car for what it is and can be modded a bunch... but the mods are expensive.

Just remember that when something needs fixing it's a BMW and it's not going to be cheap! '09 means no warranty so you're on your own with a car that's known to have quite a few problems... one of which is the fuel pump
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:00 PM   #16
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I thought he was talking about a newer 335i. Stock for stock they are about as fast as the Camaro. 0-60 in 4.8 and the quarter in the low 13s.
If the op wants a car to mod in no way would I reccomend the BMW. In stock form it is much more refined than the Camaro
13.3 @103 for the 335i is not close to 12.9 @110 for a LS3 SS. L99 maybe but not a well driven LS3. Closest car performance wise to the LS3 SS that BMW makes would be the 1 series M coupe but your looking at a good bit of price difference. I really like the 1 and 3 series with the turbo inline 6. They have a torque curve that reminds you of a PD blower car. The problem is that they are expensive here in the USA and even more expensive to mod and maintain. I don't know about other BMW owners but my friend is constantly having problems with his and you would not believe how much the parts and service are for it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:04 PM   #17
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:24 PM   #18
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I stand by my post, the bmw i test drove was a 4 door 09 335i auto. cramped little thing with road noise and a very lack-luster automatic. to each their own. if you're going for originality the 335i is a bit different from the camaro, but it isn't uncommon by any means and you won't find yourself in the 11s pacing many others. not reliably anyways.
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I test drove 328i few years ago and it rode like crap, steering was way overboosted. Felt like a rwd mini cooper! There was virtually no features inside, it had fake leather, no power seats, no seat heaters and was over $30k. Complete waste of money.
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335i will get its axx handed to it by a well driven LS3 SS.

They are quick cars, but a step behind a Camaro SS (even the L99 A6s when driven well).
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The newer 335i's with 8-speed aren't as fast as the older single turbo N54's. The awd X model is putting down 20 or so whp less then the rwd variants, coupled with drivetrain loss from the auto and you can count on high 13 second car.
The N54 is a twin turbo, the N55 is a single twin scroll turbo.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:09 PM   #22
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the sign says buy American :-)
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #23
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the x-drive slows them down considerably. They are very nice cars though and they can be pretty quick with the juicebox tunes and an exhaust.
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the sign says buy American :-)
Ironically, Camaro is made in Canada....
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Buy a Honda Accord. It's made in America, built and assembled by thousands of American workers; it was actually designed by fellow Americans in California too.

Just had politically correct moment there.

Buy the Camaro if you feel you have not paid enough taxes, and want to support the US Government motors. Kidding of course.... But when a person is ignorant and only buys Japanese/American/European cars exclusively, they miss out on so much and don't understand the other sides and types of owners. Less knowledge and less respect for other owners in the car community leads to unnecessary negative stereotypes.

Camaro has a sheep mentality driven movement, that it's an "All American" car like hot dogs and baseball because it's a Chevrolet... but this is simply not true.

My next car is going to be American made, 99% chance it will be Cobalt SS Turbo(low insurance, reliable, fuel efficient; may circuit race it or take it to autox races) or heads/cam Mach 1(speed and fun; run 11's with small bottle). Just figuring out the pro's and con's of the car instead of having an ignorant outlook on them based off where the car company's headquarters are.

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