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Old 05-01-2013, 10:51 PM   #1
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Good Cold Air Intake for V6.

Looking to increase 0-60 times with a new Cold Air Intake. I've read that this will help with 0-60 times. Under $400 would be nice but let me know what you think and if you also know how much horsepower and how fast the 0-60 will be let me know after the install.

Also, any other ideas to increase 0-60? I did a few searches on the site but couldn't find anything that really helped. Right now I just have an axle-back and x-pipe but they still tend to keep me at a 6 second time. I can't afford a $5000-$8000 Supercharger or Twin Turbos either. Not really interested in Nitrous either.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:22 AM   #2
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CAI Inc has my vote + ADM air scoop

Also intake manifold spacers, headers, exhaust(doesnt add much), catch can (protects your engine from wearing down, power loss), and tune.

Also a good tire/wheel setup plus some suspension!
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:49 AM   #3
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Your exhaust mods aren't adding any HP/torque, so they're not going to help.

There are plenty of threads on here discussing intakes, including some with dyno testing. Most of the quality brand aftermarket intakes (RotoFab, CAI, Injen) will be pretty similar in their performance gains (~15HP, maybe), so then it becomes a matter of which you like cosmetically.

Other performance enhancements you could consider are a ported throttle body (slight gains in performance, ~3HP maybe, reduces low-RPM throttle dead spot), intake manifold spacer (since you have an LLT, not sure about HP gain), and a tune (voids your powertrain warranty, but will improve performance, ~15HP gain for an LLT).

You're probably looking at a total of around 30+ RWHP with all of these mods, and the tune will likely add some low RPM torque, which should help with your times.

You can look at headers and/or high flow cats, too, but I'm not familiar with their gains.
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Technicly exhaust does not add HP but when I changed mine I dropped 30 lbs off the car & it does help them breath better. When you add that cold air intake & get better air in, it is good for it to go out well too. I love my CAI inc. It is a closed, see-through insulated, easy open box for the filter, ceramic coated tube, looks great & good HP gains. Not the cheapest by any means but you get what you pay for. Add a waterbottle relocation kit & scoop for even more gains. Get a catch can to protect that engine, add a Black Iceolator, ported throttle body & get ready for some fun. Then wheels/tires & suspension upgrades and you will have a super permagrin inducer!

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wheels/tires and suspension will be what helps you the most, besides forced induction.

you want lightweight rims and sticky tires.
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Holy shit guys... search.

please.

This is turning into a stupid weekly question.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:33 AM   #7
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I have bought a K&N and love it
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:36 AM   #8
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Looking to increase 0-60 times with a new Cold Air Intake. I've read that this will help with 0-60 times. Under $400 would be nice but let me know what you think and if you also know how much horsepower and how fast the 0-60 will be let me know after the install.

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On your 2010, a Vararam would be best. Also IM spacer and isolator.

Catch can is good too.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:37 AM   #10
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Go with K&N, best gains
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:07 AM   #11
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cold air inductions system is very nice as well as the airaid
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Go with K&N, best gains
I haven't seen a V6 comparison, but for the V8 the K&N definitely did not provide the biggest gains: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2353864
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My vote goes with the Cold Air Inducitons CAI. In my opinion they are the best looking while still delivering good performance system that is offered for the V6
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K&N has great name recognition because they have been around a long time but there are better systems and filter out there these days.
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Best intake for a LLT engine (2010) is either Injen or Vararam, they will get you the best results.
I went with Vararam, But really they are all good.
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Injen is a true cold air intake....long tube that runs toward the bottom of the car. Most of the rest are short ram intakes.

What is the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram intake?
As the name implies, a short ram intake is "short". Due to it's size, the intake pipe doesn't stretch far away from the intake manifold, so the air filter remains somewhere near the engine. A cold air intake has longer piping, and is designed to push the air filter away from the engine into an area that has colder air, hence the name cold air intake. Typically, since the cold air intake draws in cooler air it usually makes more horsepower than a short ram. However, depending on engine design, this isn't always the case, and we'll explain further below. A short ram intake is generally less expensive as well, and easier to install and service since the air filter is typically easy to see when you pop the hood. A cold air intake is longer, and places the air filter farther away, sometimes in a fender, so installation is more difficult as is service, and is usually more expensive.
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Injen is a true cold air intake....long tube that runs toward the bottom of the car. Most of the rest are short ram intakes.

What is the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram intake?
As the name implies, a short ram intake is "short". Due to it's size, the intake pipe doesn't stretch far away from the intake manifold, so the air filter remains somewhere near the engine. A cold air intake has longer piping, and is designed to push the air filter away from the engine into an area that has colder air, hence the name cold air intake. Typically, since the cold air intake draws in cooler air it usually makes more horsepower than a short ram. However, depending on engine design, this isn't always the case, and we'll explain further below. A short ram intake is generally less expensive as well, and easier to install and service since the air filter is typically easy to see when you pop the hood. A cold air intake is longer, and places the air filter farther away, sometimes in a fender, so installation is more difficult as is service, and is usually more expensive.


This is true, Except for the Vararam which gets its air from in front of the radiator. This is both a ram air intake and a Cold air intake. You can see this if you use a OBD2 Tool or something that will monitor Ambent air temp and Inlet air temps. Both will be very close with the vararam.
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Injen is a true cold air intake....long tube that runs toward the bottom of the car. Most of the rest are short ram intakes.

What is the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram intake?
As the name implies, a short ram intake is "short". Due to it's size, the intake pipe doesn't stretch far away from the intake manifold, so the air filter remains somewhere near the engine. A cold air intake has longer piping, and is designed to push the air filter away from the engine into an area that has colder air, hence the name cold air intake. Typically, since the cold air intake draws in cooler air it usually makes more horsepower than a short ram. However, depending on engine design, this isn't always the case, and we'll explain further below. A short ram intake is generally less expensive as well, and easier to install and service since the air filter is typically easy to see when you pop the hood. A cold air intake is longer, and places the air filter farther away, sometimes in a fender, so installation is more difficult as is service, and is usually more expensive.
Good post. I will add that SRI's (short ram intake) generally will have better throttle response where a true CAI will have better top end power. If you have an SRI with a truly sealed air box, you are getting the best of both worlds!

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The thing that I would be worried about with a long tube CAI would be hydrolock. If you have to drive through deepish water, water can actually get sucked into the intake manifold causing massive damage to your engine.
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Good post. I will add that SRI's (short ram intake) generally will have better throttle response where a true CAI will have better top end power. If you have an SRI with a truly sealed air box, you are getting the best of both worlds!

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Throw in an insulated airbox and thermal coated intake tube to keep the IAT within 2 degrees of ambient and you are really talking! Now you have the cooler air just like a long tube version through all the insulating factors, yet you have the short ram travel to get the improved throttle response and low end power. This is why our CAI is extremely popular.
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So how much time could I see shaved off if I got the CAI Inc Cold Air Intake WITHOUT a scoop? Right now im 6 seconds stock...
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Ended up buying a Vararam for a forum member. Brand new for $225. Getting it installed soon.
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