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Old 05-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #35
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:59 AM   #36
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A responsible first car, IMO, is not the Camaro at all, regardless of engine size.

The biggest issues I see are limited visibility and drive layout. I think most new drivers should experience a couple years behind the wheel of something with lots of glass and FWD in order to get a feel for how they can drive in crowded traffic and inclement weather, not to mention the fact that having a Camaro might put a young driver in "show-off" situations at school (it's also a car ripe for keying by anyone who could be jealous).

Following a demonstration of safety-consciousness, defensive driving ability, and ability to mitigate the effects of testosterone and peer pressure, only then would I entertain a performance-oriented vehicle for any child of mine.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:08 PM   #37
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get him a zl1 make it right the first time. then make him get a job.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #38
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Hello, my first post . My son is turning 16 this October and I really want to get him a new car. Him and myself always had an eye for a camaro. I am still debating wether to get him a camaro 2ss or a 2lt. Any feedback?
Good idea not letting your son decide which one he gets. And it's good to only have those two options for him. Let's a child know they do not always get everything they want. And to have a public forum help decide which one you buy for him is the way to go. Money is not an issue, 2SS is the answer.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:19 PM   #39
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Ummm... Wow. First, IMO, no matter how much experience your newly-minted 16 year old driver has driving high powered cars--and I don't care how long he's been "driving," at 16 he doesn't have much--he is just entering the time of his life where impressing his friends/girls will become more important than being responsible and making smart decisions all the time. Buying him a 400HP sports car is just plain dumb, and I'm not buying the BS about how much time he's been behind the wheel of your 700HP car.

But I'd this thread is legit, and if you have your mind made up to get him one, consider your location and what type of Indiana winter weather he'll be driving in and consider the SS and any V6/RS comes with summer tires before you buy.

But I'm sure you can just buy him a second set of wheels and winter tires for him, too, while you're at it.
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Good idea not letting your son decide which one he gets. And it's good to only have those two options for him. Let's a child know they do not always get everything they want. And to have a public forum help decide which one you buy for him is the way to go. Money is not an issue, 2SS is the answer.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:30 PM   #41
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I'm 19 and I have a SS and all I can say is that since I got my car I have learned to appreciate it more and more, and I really do take care of it. I know my parents worked hard to buy it so I work hard to keep it in pristine condition. Not because one is young means one is supposed to wreck!
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:32 PM   #42
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I had to buy my first car outright (plus every car since then), '95 Monte Carlo Z34. Had enough hp to have some fun but wasn't a speed demon.

IMO get him something like that, even if he's been driving under your supervision, who knows what he's going to be like without it. Not only do you have to think about your kid but others on the road that he may harm if he did something "stupid". Not saying he will but those younger years are full of no-thinking just go decisions, I know I was there 7 years ago... Once he proves himself, then offer him a Camaro.
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LS man! I got mine for my 17th birthday and I absolutly love it! Plus I've made it MINE.
Sure I would love an SS but it's nt really practical or necessary. The V6 has 320 horse, nothing to shake a stick at.
Also, make him work for it! I did, as did many other "kids" on here and it's worth so much more because of it!
One more thing. Don't modify his car for him. That annoys even us younger guys. That's something he should work for as well!
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What ever happened to the days when kids were just happy to get a car any car. My 1st car was a beater 84 Buick sky hawk and I loved it. If it were my son I would give him the opportunity to get the SS but if he chose that route, make him get a job and pay you the difference between the 2. That way he will learn some pride of ownership and will be more likely to take care of his investment

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Buy him a good used car and buy yourself the SS! When he has proven that he can handle it, then you can sell the used car and use the money to mod up the SS. Also you will be able to drive it yourself! Win Win!
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Oh, well, shit... just get him a ZL1 then and be done with it.

I hope you don' expect us to buy this BS you're feeding us.
The BS, come on. I don't know the OP, but I started pulling my dad's car in the driveway for him when he got home from work way before I was ten, with his help, and when I was ten I started driving a WW2 Wyllis Jeep, that's a stick of course. And yeah it was off road. Started driving on the road when I was 14, my dad acted like I had a learner's permit. Wanted me good and ready. So 15 learner's permit where I'm at. Both of my parents, divorced at that point, made me drive everywhere all the time. Not like I was complaining.

I'm 35, so not like I'm talking before they invented stop signs.

So you don't know how much this guy has taught his kid.



"I had a cruze loaner for 3 days...don't ever do that to anyone. My 2003 accord was 1000x's better than that piece of crap."

Yeah, my buddy has a 2012 cruze, he's talking about upgrading the turbo and crap. Come on, POS. I don't like riding in it, but I do to keep miles off my car and we went on a few road trips in it. But I can barely get in and out of the thing.



Far as people saying make him work for it, I won't have kids, just because, anyway, but for nieces and nephews I've thought that I screwed up in school the first go around, hence I'm 35 and back to finish my degree. So for them anything I do nice like that will be tied to grades in school.
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I don't ride with them on the mirror, don't want an excuse for a cop to pull me over, so I have them wedged up in the back window, throw them on the mirror for a show or meet
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The BS, come on. I don't know the OP, but I started pulling my dad's car in the driveway for him when he got home from work way before I was ten, with his help, and when I was ten I started driving a WW2 Wyllis Jeep, that's a stick of course. And yeah it was off road. Started driving on the road when I was 14, my dad acted like I had a learner's permit. Wanted me good and ready. So 15 learner's permit where I'm at. Both of my parents, divorced at that point, made me drive everywhere all the time. Not like I was complaining.

I'm 35, so not like I'm talking before they invented stop signs.

So you don't know how much this guy has taught his kid.
THIS!

The amount of jealousy in this thread is ridiculous. If the guy has money, knows that his kid is responsible, and is willing to make his son happy, why shouldn't he buy him an SS?

Some of you guys think that just because you were irresponsible at your age that all kids don't know jack $hit about handling (moderately) high hp cars (in reality, 400hp is nothing special). Btw, did you guys see that video of the Pedderized 1LE being driven by a high school kid, setting faster times than a ZL1? Take a look.

Op, if you know your son is more than capable of handling the car, obviously get him the SS.
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You know your son the best. I want to tell you that I am in high school as well, and you really do not want to buy an SS for him. By doing this, you are spoiling him and teaching him that good things will come easy. My dad offered me an SS as well, but I won't say yes, I want to work for my first car. Right now I have $20k saved up from ebay sales, and planning on buying a used 2LT. Second, even if you buy him a 1LS, he will end up making new friends because he is driving a nice car. These friends will persuade him into doing stupid things like street racing, drifting, speeding, etc. 323 HP is a lot for a beginner, but once he gets used to it, the 2LT is perfect. 2LT has good gas mileage, insurance is cheaper, it is also reliable. Personally, I think you should buy him the 2LT and if he wants a V8 tell him to work for it. By doing this, you know he is safe because he is in a safe car, and it gives him appreciation for his belongings and money.
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THIS!

The amount of jealousy in this thread is ridiculous. If the guy has money, knows that his kid is responsible, and is willing to make his son happy, why shouldn't he buy him an SS?

Some of you guys think that just because you were irresponsible at your age that all kids don't know jack $hit about handling (moderately) high hp cars (in reality, 400hp is nothing special). Btw, did you guys see that video of the Pedderized 1LE being driven by a high school kid, setting faster times than a ZL1? Take a look.

Op, if you know your son is more than capable of handling the car, obviously get him the SS.
Do you have a link for that video?
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Some of you guys think that just because you were irresponsible at your age that all kids don't know jack $hit about handling (moderately) high hp cars (in reality, 400hp is nothing special).

the odds are against any 16 yr old being responsible. the problem is, the part of your brain that controls reasoning is the last to fully develop, and that doesn't usually occur till your about 25 yrs old. it's not just a coincidence that most kids are irresponsible, irrational, and reckless. there's a reason we make them wait till they're 18 to make their own decisions, and wont let them drink (legally) till they're 21. it's biological. you combine that with a very powerful car, and virtually no experience and things could get ugly fast.

now that being said, sure, the op's kid may be the exception and fall into that 10% or so that are responsible, we all develop differently. but if he's not, buying him a 400 HP sports car with horrible visibility could very well end very expensively, tragically, or both.
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