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Old 04-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #1
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Are there any coilovers that do not require drilling holes?

I really don't want to drill holes in the trunk floor but don't have a thousand dollars to spend.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:52 PM   #2
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Pedders, get springs if you don't want to spend over 1k.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:54 PM   #3
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I really don't want to drill holes in the trunk floor but don't have a thousand dollars to spend.
You do not want coil overs that cost less than $1000. It is one of those items where you will get what you pay for. I would recommend looking at lowering springs.
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As the above said, Pedders doesn't require you to drill holes in the trunk.
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You don't want to get coil overs that are new and cost less than $1,000. Now if someone has some used Pedders Xa's or Pfadt ones they are getting rid of, that is a different story.

Why do you want coilovers? What is your end purpose?

Is it just for looks? Then get some lowering springs. They are slightly functional as well since they lower the center of gravity of the car.

If you don't live in a REAL bumpy area, lowering springs are good. I did this for the 1st few months I had my car. Then that winter I put Coilovers on because I do track days and live in a VERY BUMPY area.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:14 PM   #6
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pedders does not require any drilling inside the car and they are pretty amazing
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pedders does not require any drilling inside the car and they are pretty amazing
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:34 PM   #8
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Thanks guys. Right now I have:

Pedders coils
Pedders end links
FE4 front and rear struts
Pedders front 28mm sway bar
Pedders rear ZL-1 32mm sway bar
ZL-1 rear toe arms
Pedders spec'd alignment

I love the current look but it rides like shit and would prefer to be .5" lower and have a little more smoother of a ride.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. Right now I have:

Pedders coils
Pedders end links
FE4 front and rear struts
Pedders front 28mm sway bar
Pedders rear ZL-1 32mm sway bar
ZL-1 rear toe arms
Pedders spec'd alignment

I love the current look but it rides like shit and would prefer to be .5" lower and have a little more smoother of a ride.
Ya, your next step is the Pedders XA's. I LOVE mine
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:35 PM   #10
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Personally I like having the wholes in the trunk. Makes it super easy to adjust and no leaning down under or even by my car. Over 1.5 years with mine and not a single issue with the wholes in the trunk.

That being said....if you want Pedders XA then keep an eye out on places like Amazon or AutoAgenda. A friend of mine picked up a set of Pedders for just over $1k from one of those sites. I just can't remember which one it was.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:13 PM   #11
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Personally I like having the wholes in the trunk. Makes it super easy to adjust and no leaning down under or even by my car. Over 1.5 years with mine and not a single issue with the wholes in the trunk.

That being said....if you want Pedders XA then keep an eye out on places like Amazon or AutoAgenda. A friend of mine picked up a set of Pedders for just over $1k from one of those sites. I just can't remember which one it was.
Having the adjusters in the trunk make it very easy to get to. You only have to make the hole as big as the cable. (The ends come off with a set screw)


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Old 05-03-2013, 01:12 PM   #12
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PFADT!

Adjustments are on the bottom side of the coilover... You do not need to drill holes in trunk, or even jack up the car to make adjustments. Not one tool needed to do any adjustments track-side.

We carry them and only sell Pfadt suspension components for a reason. The overseas stuff is just not worth it as down the line you will be replacing them for a good set of coilovers. As the others have said, is there a mandated reason for coilovers? Maybe use a drop-spring set now and then down the line save for a nice set of USA made coilovers?
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:55 PM   #13
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The overseas stuff is just not worth it as down the line you will be replacing them for a good set of coilovers.
Sorry but thats a ridiculous and closed minded statement. There's plenty of crap made here as well as overseas. Point of origin has nothing to do with quality. Salesmanship is one thing, blind bias is something entirely different.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:12 PM   #14
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Definitely check the Pfadts out! They can be adjusted from outside the car, with the wheel attached, with ease.


You're on the right path though- if you go any lower you should definitely bump up to a coilover. Like others have said, spending 1k on new coilovers is just one of those things where you're just better off not doing. Its better to wait a little longer and save to get the results your looking for from the start. Don't stress it though, have some fun, enjoy summer, and start planning the perfect suspension mods for you. We'll all be here when your ready. The Pfadt coilovers are specifically engineered for aggressive street/track handling or drag performance so there is something for everyone. The valving and spring rates are specifically tuned to allow drivers to capture all of the performance these cars can throw at them. You'll have some fun
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:00 PM   #15
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Sorry but thats a ridiculous and closed minded statement. There's plenty of crap made here as well as overseas. Point of origin has nothing to do with quality. Salesmanship is one thing, blind bias is something entirely different.
Ok... I will agree with you that crap can be made anywhere that is true.. However, if you are looking for replacement parts, etc. much easier to farm from the USA. Also being a small business in the USA, why would I want to support something out of our economic zone? No need to get into an economic debate here about supporting our country, so I'll bow out and yes you are 100% correct in correcting what I had said.

The shock bodies from a lot of the other companies are mass manufactured for all applications, then perches or extensions are made per car. The PFadt stuff are all purpose built for our specific cars that are tested on our specific cars, over and over again. I would not want a generic body on my personal car that is adapter to fit. Why even spend the money at this point, we are not talking about $50, $100 here.. Talking thousand plus here, so why not buy something that is purpose built for the vehicle.

Back to the OP's original subject, the Pfadt's do not have to drill through the trunk
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pfadt pfadt pfadt. not sure about k an w but they are worth a look
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #17
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Truth be told, neither one is easy to adjust the rears. The XAs I have just have the hole drilled in the upper perch so you could adjust from under the car. The Pfadts I have you have to dig around inside the rear LCA. Not as easy as Pfadt says, but in my opinion both are equally challenging.
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+1 for the Pfadt coilovers! That's what we run, and highly recommend them!

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PFADT!

Adjustments are on the bottom side of the coilover... You do not need to drill holes in trunk, or even jack up the car to make adjustments. Not one tool needed to do any adjustments track-side.

We carry them and only sell Pfadt suspension components for a reason. The overseas stuff is just not worth it as down the line you will be replacing them for a good set of coilovers. As the others have said, is there a mandated reason for coilovers? Maybe use a drop-spring set now and then down the line save for a nice set of USA made coilovers?
"The overseas stuff is just not worth it as down the line you will be replacing them for a good set of coilovers." Seems like someone never heard of Bilstein Pss10s I guess. Honestly when it comes to warranty, build quaility and proper valving, KW and Bilstein takes the cake. Even the H&Rs I just sold was very good. TUV approval goes a long way in my book. Also when I had a certain brand coilovers on my car over a year ago and had a noise issue that same manufacturer left me out to freaking hang dry. Want to talk about that Matt? Eibach at least repaired their coilover crappy endlink tab but they suck for customer service as well. Stay away from Eibach you have been warned. Their endlink tabs are very weak and only good for dropping the car not track use. Valving is very good though. Such a shame, great valving in such a lousy body with lousy build quality. Pfadt coilover build quality at least surpasses the Eibachs by a long shot , valving however I didn't care for where as the Eibach valving I like.
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Truth be told, neither one is easy to adjust the rears. The XAs I have just have the hole drilled in the upper perch so you could adjust from under the car. The Pfadts I have you have to dig around inside the rear LCA. Not as easy as Pfadt says, but in my opinion both are equally challenging.
But you do like the Pfadts better don't you?
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:47 AM   #21
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KW's do not require drilling. If you look at KW, don't go with anything below Variant 3.

I'm looking at picking up a set of Pfadt's new system for my car later this year or possibly a set of Pedders super car coil overs.

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Sorry but thats a ridiculous and closed minded statement. There's plenty of crap made here as well as overseas. Point of origin has nothing to do with quality. Salesmanship is one thing, blind bias is something entirely different.
Completely true. BC Racing for example is a white-label manufacturer for many high-end manufacturers. Buy from the source, get a huge bang for the buck. We have sold hundreds of BC Racing coilover systems (many for the 2004-2006 Pontiac GTO) without issue. There are many of quality options available, nothing wrong with any of them.
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