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Old 05-04-2013, 05:33 PM   #1
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2013 Camaro guys,does your paint have this?

Just wondering if anybody else has these imperfections in their paint.This is under the clear coat.I took it to the dealer,and they will have it repainted,but i don't want that,as no way the factory paint job can be duplicated. You can only see this in certain conditions,and the pic actually looks worse then it really is,it kinda looks like a suction cup from the factory.My 2011 1LT RS didn't have any of these,but my 2013 has 3 or 4.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #2
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #3
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Looks like rotary buffer marks, but if its under the clear its probably not. A good body shop should be able to repaint better than the factory can, which isn't to hard in your particular case because the factory job doesn't look to good.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:38 PM   #4
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How'd you find out its under the clear?
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:41 PM   #5
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Honestly I wouldn't want them to repaint it. That will remove all the value from the car
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #6
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How'd you find out its under the clear?
I tried removing it,and had no luck.When i took it to the dealer the light wasn't right, and they actually couldn't see it.They believed me though, i have one of the good dealers.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:24 PM   #7
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I took it to the dealer,and they will have it repainted,but i don't want that,as no way the factory paint job can be duplicated.
If you don't want the dealer to fix it, what is it you want them to do?
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:54 PM   #8
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I tried removing it,and had no luck.When i took it to the dealer the light wasn't right, and they actually couldn't see it.They believed me though, i have one of the good dealers.
what was your method? If those were a clear coat scratch/marring it would take pretty heavy compounding to remove. Not saying it is, just making sure so you avoid getting another paint job having to be done if it can be fixed.
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If you don't want the dealer to fix it, what is it you want them to do?
I dont want them to do anything since it wont come out.I was just wondering if anyone else had this in their paint,and if anyone knew what exactly it was.

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what was your method? If those were a clear coat scratch/marring it would take pretty heavy compounding to remove. Not saying it is, just making sure so you avoid getting another paint job having to be done if it can be fixed.
Yeah, i tried buffing it out,and had no luck.Thats when i realized it was under the clear coat. I just used wax,and elbow grease.
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I have noticed some similar marks/imperfections that seem to be under my clearcoat as well. I was considering having my dealer look at it. I guess I'm not sure why it would devalue the car to have it repainted under warranty if they can just take a few of the parts off to reshoot them to correct the issue. I could see it if the entire car needed to be repainted but a bumper, fender or hood doesn't seem like it would be a big deal. Especially when the reason for the repainting is given to any potential buyer down the road.

My car is also VR. I wonder if it's something more commonly seen in VR compared to other colors or maybe the defects are easier to see on VR for some reason.
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Wait, why would you not want them to repaint it? Why would you want that factory paint job replicated?

Are you sure that isn't in the clear coat?
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I have a 2013 Black Camaro and I had the same issue. It could only be seen in certain light and angles. I couldn't get them out myself. I took it back and they fixed it with no repaint.
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I had a circle mark similar to the pic, on mine it was at the top of the bumper in front of the hood opening.
I figured it was a buffing wheel mark so used my porter cable and polish and it cleaned up completely.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:34 AM   #14
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I dont want them to do anything since it wont come out.I was just wondering if anyone else had this in their paint,and if anyone knew what exactly it was.


Yeah, i tried buffing it out,and had no luck.Thats when i realized it was under the clear coat. I just used wax,and elbow grease.
Wax will just cover it with a clear layer of wax. Needs a polishing compound to break the surface of the clear coat to remove that, but not so much to go through the clear.
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:05 AM   #15
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DA sander marks. Common practice when they see a imperfection like a fish eye or trash in the paint. Problem is the buffer they use either holograms or leaves behind what you have. A good buff will knock that right out.
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:23 AM   #16
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Listen to everyone here. I'm 99% sure you don't need a repaint. What you need is to polish them out with a machine. Wax is used to protect paint. Doesn't matter how much "elbow grease" you use, it will never remove anything. EVER. Take it to a good detailer in your area and have him see it. Chances are he can knock it out no problem
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:21 AM   #17
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Listen to everyone here. I'm 99% sure you don't need a repaint. What you need is to polish them out with a machine. Wax is used to protect paint. Doesn't matter how much "elbow grease" you use, it will never remove anything. EVER. Take it to a good detailer in your area and have him see it. Chances are he can knock it out no problem
This^^^ Pretty much what I was saying.

After looking at the pic again, it made me think sunspot. If it goes away at night, then you would know.
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:52 AM   #18
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I have never seen that on any new car.
Don,t think I could live with that.
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:18 AM   #19
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I have it also on the back drivers side on top of the hip above the wheel.
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Just compound and polish it with a da machine. Should be enough to take it out.
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Yep. I agree with the posts above. Looks some DA sander marks. My 2013 had some of the same. I used my porter cable along with some Mequiars 205 first with an orange pad and then finished with a white pad. Looks perfect now.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:44 PM   #22
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Isn't it amazing what passes for finished work from dealerships? Imagine having that on your entire hood, front clip, passenger door and quarter panel. That's what I was presented with after the body shop "repaired" my car after my wreck. Took me 12+ hours of polishing to correct.

Anyway, the guys above are right, you can remove that with a compound. Should take 30 minutes, tops.

If you don't have the equipment, maybe a member near you will step up and help you out. I know if you were near me I'd take care of it for you for nothing.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #23
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I doubt its under the clearcoat..it looks like buffer marks....there is no way gm would pass that as good from the factory, I know my paint has some inperfections but the are very small. Maybe the dealer saw there was a bleamish and tried to fix it,making it worse. Das or used a little line to blend in bleamishs on the paint off line, they are very fine grit and are concentrated in a small area......this looks like something that's happened after the car left the plant
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:29 PM   #24
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They also will touch them up at the factory if they note any tiny blems. So it could be dealer or factory. Either way, I'm in the camp of trying to use a bit of polishing compound to remove. But if you REALLY want it to pop and don't trust yourself, perhaps take it by a professional detailer shop and have them correct it or even go over the whole car so you know it's all corrected.
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Old 05-06-2013, 04:32 PM   #25
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Thanks for all your info guys.I went to the shop that the dealer will send me to today. Im not driving my car right now,as it is so close to my race.I seem to get really paranoid about some stupid ass crashing in to me so close to my race,as i wouldn't have time to get her fixed.I had the guy at the shop look at the pic i posted,and he didn't know what it was. He told me to bring it by,but it will have to wait til after my race.
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