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y2jdmbfan · 06-25-2009, 03:12 PM

Guys,

Just noticed in the last two extremely HOT and SUNNY days up here in the suburbs of Chicago that my new Victory Red 2SS Camaro has alot of fine swirl marks in it...I am guessing this is probably from when the dealer unpacked and washed it, although I have taken it through a touchless car war a couple of times and used some brand new microfiber rags to dry the spots the air dryer didn't get. I am thinking about taking it to a local detail guy next week and see what he can do with it. Any other hints / ideas? I bought some Meguiar's SwirlX and I may try it on a section tonight...

Y2J

2010 2-Tone · 06-25-2009, 03:14 PM

If they are light the swirlX will work just fine!!

y2jdmbfan · 06-25-2009, 03:18 PM

Do you have any experience with the swirlx? Do I need to really work it in and apply lots of pressure to the point where the applicator has paint on it? I don't have a dual action polisher yet or anything...

2010 2-Tone · 06-25-2009, 03:22 PM

I have a friend that used it and it worked great. I know that he never used it before that time and I guess he just followed the directions and it came out awesome.

Paperer · 06-25-2009, 03:23 PM

Swirls will happen, the best thing I've used (on black paint) is Meguiar's new "Swirl X" you apply it like wax, but just a little more thorough and then just wipe off.

Here's a review:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=30630

NAHURRY · 06-25-2009, 05:41 PM

I would'nt start taking thin layers of your paint off this early. Use a good
glaze to cover them for now. Z-5 might work although it is more for darker
colors I think.

live2well · 06-25-2009, 06:43 PM

Adam's Polish swirl and haze remover along with their revive polish

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-97-ad...ar-polish.aspx

Angelo@Autopia · 06-25-2009, 07:47 PM

Swirls can be visually hid by polishing the surface with a mild polish. This rounds off the top edge of the swirl, robbing sunlight of a sharp edge to cause a reflection. When you buff off the polishing residues, fillers will stay in the depressions. Finish by applying your favorite wax or paint sealant. This will hold the fillers in place, cosmetically hiding swirls and minor paint blemishes. Polishing also restores surface gloss and prepares the surface for waxing. This procedure does not remove the swirl. Swirls may be visible in certain light conditions (fluorescent lamps are ruthlessly revealing) and will reappear as the wax ages. That said, most people will look at your car and think it's flawless.

Before polishing, it's a good idea to check for paint contamination. This is easily done by placing your hand inside a plastic sandwich bag and running your fingertips over the surface. If the paint is rough or gritty, consider using a clay bar before trying to remove swirls.This step is optional but worth the extra effort. Hand polishing will not remove rough, gritty paint contamination. If your car's paint surface is smooth, proceed with polishing.

A mild polish such as SwirlX, Meguiar's No.9 Swirl Remover or 3M Perfect-It Swirl Remover. A Microfiber or form Applicator Pad. A Microfiber Towel. Your favorite wax or paint sealant.

Work on a 16 to 20 square inch area, out of direct sunlight.
Apply your polish to a Microfiber or Foam Applicator Pad or directly on the paint. This is a personal preference. If applying polish to the applicator pad, I use a liberal, Quarter-size amount of product. If applying to the paint, I apply a couple of 6-8 inch long lines of polish.
Using moderate to firm pressure, work the polish over the paint using back-and-forth motions. Polish in a side-to-side motion and then in an up-and-down motion until the polish is almost dry.
Wipe off polish residues using a clean Microfiber Towel.
Continue working in 16 to 20 square inch areas until the complete panel or vehicle is polished.
Follow immediately with your favorite wax or paint sealant to protect and seal the finish.

Rockytophummer · 06-25-2009, 08:05 PM

When I picked mine up it had 3 swirl marks on trunk they told me it was from when they put that white tape for shipment had come loose they caused that. Went straight back to the dealer since I had just had it 5 mins. They took it to shop and fixed the problem. Don't know if that's what your are from but it can be easily fixed.

69 Hugger · 06-25-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr G

Swirls can be visually hid by polishing the surface with a mild polish. This rounds off the top edge of the swirl, robbing sunlight of a sharp edge to cause a reflection. When you buff off the polishing residues, fillers will stay in the depressions. Finish by applying your favorite wax or paint sealant. This will hold the fillers in place, cosmetically hiding swirls and minor paint blemishes. Polishing also restores surface gloss and prepares the surface for waxing. This procedure does not remove the swirl. Swirls may be visible in certain light conditions (fluorescent lamps are ruthlessly revealing) and will reappear as the wax ages. That said, most people will look at your car and think it's flawless.

Before polishing, it's a good idea to check for paint contamination. This is easily done by placing your hand inside a plastic sandwich bag and running your fingertips over the surface. If the paint is rough or gritty, consider using a clay bar before trying to remove swirls.This step is optional but worth the extra effort. Hand polishing will not remove rough, gritty paint contamination. If your car's paint surface is smooth, proceed with polishing.

A mild polish such as SwirlX, Meguiar's No.9 Swirl Remover or 3M Perfect-It Swirl Remover. A Microfiber or form Applicator Pad. A Microfiber Towel. Your favorite wax or paint sealant.

Work on a 18 to 24 square inch area, out of direct sunlight.
Apply your polish to a Microfiber or Foam Applicator Pad or directly on the paint. This is a personal preference. If applying polish to the applicator pad, I use a liberal, Quarter-size amount of product. If applying to the paint, I apply a couple of 6-8 inch long lines of polish.
Using a moderate to firm pressure, work the polish over the paint using back-and-forth motions. Polish in a side-to-side motion and then in an up-and-down motion until the polish is almost dry.
Wipe off polish residues using a clean Microfiber Towel.
Continue working in 16 to 20 square inch areas until the complete panel or vehicle is polished.
Follow immediately with your favorite wax or paint sealant to protect and seal the finish.

What site did you get this off of ?

Tecca · 06-25-2009, 08:24 PM

ll

Angelo@Autopia · 06-25-2009, 08:47 PM

No Site , go with Meguiars Swirl X Swirl Remover (works the best for me). After you finish with Swirl X you can finish with Z2 or Z5, or go with both mixed together as a combo killer ( don't forget to ZFX them ), Z6 is your quick detailer.

Brian2SS/RS · 06-25-2009, 08:48 PM

here is a tip. dont take it to a local car wash. lol

Angelo@Autopia · 06-25-2009, 08:50 PM

On soft Clear coats it can be done with no problem, but look out for those hard ones, you might need a Polisher to remove them.

Angelo@Autopia · 06-25-2009, 08:51 PM

Very true Brian2SS/RS.

Thrillz · 06-25-2009, 09:03 PM

This is gona happen its bad washing techniques that cause this. If there was rail dust and the dealer didnt remove them correctly with a clay bar they would have scratched it u can count on it. If u are to do it yourself wash it then use a clay bar then try swirlx. If swirlx doesnt work take it to a pro to have a look at it. For about 275 u can have him do a full detail to start fresh from wash,clay bar,polish and wax the full deal.Good luck

Angelo@Autopia · 06-25-2009, 09:08 PM

I agreed with Thrillz!

69 Hugger · 06-25-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr G

No Site , go with Meguiars Swirl X Swirl Remover (works the best for me). After you finish with Swirl X you can finish with Z2 or Z5, or go with both mixed together as a combo killer ( don't forget to ZFX them ), Z6 is your quick detailer.

No Site

The only reason I asked was I had just read the exact same paragraph about a hour ago from this site.

http://www.properautocare.com/byhand1.html

Nexus6 · 06-25-2009, 10:26 PM

BUSTED

Steve P · 06-26-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr G

On soft Clear coats it can be done with no problem, but look out for those hard ones, you might need a Polisher to remove them.

Hand attempts will mask or remove the finest blemishes. For those harder clear coat surfaces, I have always recommended to use the least agressive means necessary until something stronger is needed. On darker colors, I like to use the Menzerna PO 106 FA "Super Finish" using a black finishing pad on a PC or FLEX. This is an extremely fine micro-abrasive that smooths and refines to perfection while removing the fine lines that occur during the washing/drying process.

Angelo@Autopia · 06-27-2009, 07:54 PM

I wrote that part for that site, and a few others also.

69 Hugger · 06-27-2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr G

I wrote that part for that site, and a few others also.

Thats cool, What are the other sites ? I like reading new detailing techniques

Angelo@Autopia · 06-28-2009, 01:17 PM

There are so many out ( Truth In Detailing, Detailing Bliss, Detailer's Club, Pakshak. Detailing World..)and One should always read and think before you touch you ride. And if your not sure always ask. All I want to see are awesome finishes on your Camaro's!

sav1 · 07-12-2009, 02:00 AM

If you're touching your car with anything other then these.... You're wrong

"Zaino Blonde Borderfree Towel: 3 pack"

firstmate · 07-12-2009, 04:03 PM

Hi, I did take the plunge and bought the 3 pack of towels from Zaino, and they stated they were "pre-washed", so I used them right out of the package. My car is black, and when I use it to wipe off the Z6, or dry, I end up with little shiny things all over the car.

They aren't like fluff that comes right off either, they are stuck to the car... So...

It is 100 degrees every day, but even after the sun goes down it doesn't seem to make a difference, they are still there.

Or, should I have washed them anyway? Could I be "using" them wrong?

I have yet to be happy with any of the towels I have tried, which is why I bought the blonde's... Now I am thinking about going to a higher end store like Macy's and buying the white 100% cotton expensive towels, cut the border and give them a try. I just want to find something that works, I will pay the higher price, but the blonde ones don't seem to work as well as I thought they would. They are very soft, but maybe they are only an issue on the black...

Sorry, any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!!

06-25-2009, 03:12 PM	#1
y2jdmbfan Drives: 2013 IOM ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 89	Swirl Marks on Victory Red... Guys, Just noticed in the last two extremely HOT and SUNNY days up here in the suburbs of Chicago that my new Victory Red 2SS Camaro has alot of fine swirl marks in it...I am guessing this is probably from when the dealer unpacked and washed it, although I have taken it through a touchless car war a couple of times and used some brand new microfiber rags to dry the spots the air dryer didn't get. I am thinking about taking it to a local detail guy next week and see what he can do with it. Any other hints / ideas? I bought some Meguiar's SwirlX and I may try it on a section tonight... Y2J

06-25-2009, 06:43 PM	#7
live2well Drives: 2010 VR 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 690	Adam's Polish swirl and haze remover along with their revive polish http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-97-ad...ar-polish.aspx __________________ Intelligence plus character that is the goal of true education. BrianC. :flag2:

06-25-2009, 07:47 PM	#8
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	Swirls can be visually hid by polishing the surface with a mild polish. This rounds off the top edge of the swirl, robbing sunlight of a sharp edge to cause a reflection. When you buff off the polishing residues, fillers will stay in the depressions. Finish by applying your favorite wax or paint sealant. This will hold the fillers in place, cosmetically hiding swirls and minor paint blemishes. Polishing also restores surface gloss and prepares the surface for waxing. This procedure does not remove the swirl. Swirls may be visible in certain light conditions (fluorescent lamps are ruthlessly revealing) and will reappear as the wax ages. That said, most people will look at your car and think it's flawless. Before polishing, it's a good idea to check for paint contamination. This is easily done by placing your hand inside a plastic sandwich bag and running your fingertips over the surface. If the paint is rough or gritty, consider using a clay bar before trying to remove swirls.This step is optional but worth the extra effort. Hand polishing will not remove rough, gritty paint contamination. If your car's paint surface is smooth, proceed with polishing. A mild polish such as SwirlX, Meguiar's No.9 Swirl Remover or 3M Perfect-It Swirl Remover. A Microfiber or form Applicator Pad. A Microfiber Towel. Your favorite wax or paint sealant. Work on a 16 to 20 square inch area, out of direct sunlight. Apply your polish to a Microfiber or Foam Applicator Pad or directly on the paint. This is a personal preference. If applying polish to the applicator pad, I use a liberal, Quarter-size amount of product. If applying to the paint, I apply a couple of 6-8 inch long lines of polish. Using moderate to firm pressure, work the polish over the paint using back-and-forth motions. Polish in a side-to-side motion and then in an up-and-down motion until the polish is almost dry. Wipe off polish residues using a clean Microfiber Towel. Continue working in 16 to 20 square inch areas until the complete panel or vehicle is polished. Follow immediately with your favorite wax or paint sealant to protect and seal the finish. Last edited by Angelo@Autopia; 06-25-2009 at 08:48 PM.

06-25-2009, 08:24 PM	#11
Tecca . Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT SIM/RJT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,326	ll Last edited by Tecca; 07-02-2011 at 10:23 AM.

06-25-2009, 08:47 PM	#12
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	No Site , go with Meguiars Swirl X Swirl Remover (works the best for me). After you finish with Swirl X you can finish with Z2 or Z5, or go with both mixed together as a combo killer ( don't forget to ZFX them ), Z6 is your quick detailer. Last edited by Angelo@Autopia; 06-25-2009 at 08:59 PM.

06-25-2009, 03:14 PM	#2
2010 2-Tone Drives: 2010 RY 2SS with Custom Stripes Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jennings, La. Posts: 2,293 View My Garage	If they are light the swirlX will work just fine!!

06-25-2009, 03:18 PM	#3
y2jdmbfan Drives: 2013 IOM ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 89	Do you have any experience with the swirlx? Do I need to really work it in and apply lots of pressure to the point where the applicator has paint on it? I don't have a dual action polisher yet or anything...

06-25-2009, 03:22 PM	#4
2010 2-Tone Drives: 2010 RY 2SS with Custom Stripes Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jennings, La. Posts: 2,293 View My Garage	I have a friend that used it and it worked great. I know that he never used it before that time and I guess he just followed the directions and it came out awesome.

06-25-2009, 03:23 PM	#5
Paperer Ragin' Cajun Drives: '02 Camaro SS - '10 CGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas/Oklahoma Posts: 1,171 View My Garage	Swirls will happen, the best thing I've used (on black paint) is Meguiar's new "Swirl X" you apply it like wax, but just a little more thorough and then just wipe off. Here's a review: http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=30630

06-25-2009, 05:41 PM	#6
NAHURRY Love's to Detail Drives: 2010 SS,97silverado/08crewcab Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville SC. Posts: 1,422	I would'nt start taking thin layers of your paint off this early. Use a good glaze to cover them for now. Z-5 might work although it is more for darker colors I think.

06-25-2009, 08:05 PM	#9
Rockytophummer Drives: 2006 Hummer H2 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryville tn. Posts: 587	When I picked mine up it had 3 swirl marks on trunk they told me it was from when they put that white tape for shipment had come loose they caused that. Went straight back to the dealer since I had just had it 5 mins. They took it to shop and fixed the problem. Don't know if that's what your are from but it can be easily fixed.

06-25-2009, 08:48 PM	#13
Brian2SS/RS Giggity Drives: 2009 Malibu 1LT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bladenboro, NC Posts: 342	here is a tip. dont take it to a local car wash. lol

06-25-2009, 08:50 PM	#14
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	On soft Clear coats it can be done with no problem, but look out for those hard ones, you might need a Polisher to remove them.

06-25-2009, 08:51 PM	#15
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	Very true Brian2SS/RS.

06-25-2009, 09:03 PM	#16
Thrillz Drives: 2012 Dodge Ram Sport Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,179	This is gona happen its bad washing techniques that cause this. If there was rail dust and the dealer didnt remove them correctly with a clay bar they would have scratched it u can count on it. If u are to do it yourself wash it then use a clay bar then try swirlx. If swirlx doesnt work take it to a pro to have a look at it. For about 275 u can have him do a full detail to start fresh from wash,clay bar,polish and wax the full deal.Good luck

06-25-2009, 09:08 PM	#17
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	I agreed with Thrillz!

06-25-2009, 10:26 PM	#19
Nexus6 More human than human Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: The mouth of hell Posts: 1,901 View My Garage	BUSTED __________________ 1100 - 10/22/2008 3000 - 05/27/2009 3300 - 06/06/2009 3800 - 06/29/2009 4B00 - 06/29/2009 Warehouse 13 survivor Blood stains,speed kills,fast cars,cheap thrills,rich women,fine wine,i lost my sense i lost control i lost my mind.

06-27-2009, 07:54 PM	#21
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	I wrote that part for that site, and a few others also.

06-28-2009, 01:17 PM	#23
Angelo@Autopia Drives: 73 Camaro Z28 (Sold) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 903	There are so many out ( Truth In Detailing, Detailing Bliss, Detailer's Club, Pakshak. Detailing World..)and One should always read and think before you touch you ride. And if your not sure always ask. All I want to see are awesome finishes on your Camaro's!

07-12-2009, 02:00 AM	#24
sav1 Drives: 2009 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 561	If you're touching your car with anything other then these.... You're wrong "Zaino Blonde Borderfree Towel: 3 pack" Attached Images

07-12-2009, 04:03 PM	#25
firstmate Drives: 2010 Blk/Gry SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 457 View My Garage	I bought the blonde towels - but.... Hi, I did take the plunge and bought the 3 pack of towels from Zaino, and they stated they were "pre-washed", so I used them right out of the package. My car is black, and when I use it to wipe off the Z6, or dry, I end up with little shiny things all over the car. They aren't like fluff that comes right off either, they are stuck to the car... So... It is 100 degrees every day, but even after the sun goes down it doesn't seem to make a difference, they are still there. Or, should I have washed them anyway? Could I be "using" them wrong? I have yet to be happy with any of the towels I have tried, which is why I bought the blonde's... Now I am thinking about going to a higher end store like Macy's and buying the white 100% cotton expensive towels, cut the border and give them a try. I just want to find something that works, I will pay the higher price, but the blonde ones don't seem to work as well as I thought they would. They are very soft, but maybe they are only an issue on the black... Sorry, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!! __________________ Ordered 10-13-08 2SS/RS M6 BLK/GRY VIN #2386 Delivered 6-11-09 - Woo Hoo!!! Hey Houston locals-------- Join the H-Town Camaro Club www.H-TownCamaroClub.com

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