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Old 05-06-2013, 11:20 PM   #1
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TC for Comp cam 231/247 617/624

Hey guys, could anyone tell me what size of TC I should get with a Comp cam 231/247 617/624? I don't really know much about TCs

Also what is you opinion on buying a fairly used TC?

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Old 05-06-2013, 11:45 PM   #2
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3000-3200 is what I have with same cam.....
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:13 AM   #3
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Did ARD do the work on your car? haha
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:06 AM   #4
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I would say at least a 3200.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:11 AM   #5
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3200 Minimum. Id go with a 3600-4000 if you are going to race the car at the track. The 3200 will not give you the 60' times you are looking for. I run a Circle D 4000 in my daily driver.

Regardless which converter you choose, be sure to install an external trans cooler.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:43 AM   #6
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It's going to depend on how you use your car. If it's a DD with occasional drag strip appearances, i'd look to something that is very street friendly. Also know that the same stall TC from different vendors can be very different. Talk to shops that know about them and try to drive a few before you make up your mind.
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3400-3600 if going with our triple disc. Takes 1-2 days to build it to match your goals and use. You wont regret it.
Drive like stock until you put your foot in it and allows lumpy cam idle.

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Also need to know that a 3x00 RPM stall from brand A converter company is not the same as from brand B. Its always good to call the converter company that you are buying from and tell them your mods, goals and driving wants so they can give you a recommendation. I would recommend FTI or Circle D.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:00 PM   #9
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Seems like TCs are more of custom product. Would going used be bad then? I figured i could save about $400-$500 and get a fairly used TC. Kind of working on a budget. I know I could wait till I got the money but its more of id rather spend 3500 on this project then 4000.
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Seems like TCs are more of custom product. Would going used be bad then? I figured i could save about $400-$500 and get a fairly used TC. Kind of working on a budget. I know I could wait till I got the money but its more of id rather spend 3500 on this project then 4000.
If you buy a used one I would get a FTI or Circle D and then send it back to the mfg to have it checked out and restalled for your mods. This will make it like new without the new price tag. It would also mean you could choose whatever used stall because you will be restalling it anyway.
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^^^ I bought a used Circle D and sent it back to Circle D and Chris fixed me up. He got with the shop I use and they opened it up and pretty much completely rebuilt it to spec.

I paid $500 for a Circle D multi disk stall and tci flex plate. It cost $325 to rebuild to spec. So $825 for spec'd stall and flex plate.

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:27 PM   #12
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I agree 3200 would be bare minimum. I personally would run a 3200 on a stock cam lol.
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Anyone have a vid of this cam, has to sound pretty sick with that big of a split.

@ OP, if you can try to drive a car with a converter if you've never had a bigger aftermarket one, to see if you like it. A Circle D 3200 can drive very nice, and you'll hardly notice it after a week. Their 3600 would do even better, but you are making a big move from the stock one which is like a 1600/1700.

Ryan, is the one in your car ultimately a 4000, Jim @ Speed thought it might even be a bit bigger (though it would have been looser with stock gearing).
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We have used that cam before in LS7's. I would suggest a Yank 3400 for that camshaft or a Vig3200. Feel free to give us a call and I can help answer any questions you may have.

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Anyone have a vid of this cam, has to sound pretty sick with that big of a split.

@ OP, if you can try to drive a car with a converter if you've never had a bigger aftermarket one, to see if you like it. A Circle D 3200 can drive very nice, and you'll hardly notice it after a week. Their 3600 would do even better, but you are making a big move from the stock one which is like a 1600/1700.

Ryan, is the one in your car ultimately a 4000, Jim @ Speed thought it might even be a bit bigger (though it would have been looser with stock gearing).
John iirc it's the MLee cam, just search and you should get a few hits, I'd do it but I'm on my phone lol
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Lol I found it

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Anyone have a vid of this cam, has to sound pretty sick with that big of a split.

@ OP, if you can try to drive a car with a converter if you've never had a bigger aftermarket one, to see if you like it. A Circle D 3200 can drive very nice, and you'll hardly notice it after a week. Their 3600 would do even better, but you are making a big move from the stock one which is like a 1600/1700.

Ryan, is the one in your car ultimately a 4000, Jim @ Speed thought it might even be a bit bigger (though it would have been looser with stock gearing).
Flashes right at 4000 according to the datalogs from NPR when I ran there. Been thinking about going up to the 2e.
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^^^ I bought a used Circle D and sent it back to Circle D and Chris fixed me up. He got with the shop I use and they opened it up and pretty much completely rebuilt it to spec.

I paid $500 for a Circle D multi disk stall and tci flex plate. It cost $325 to rebuild to spec. So $825 for spec'd stall and flex plate.


So did you save any money? lol New ones are like 900 right?
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We have used that cam before in LS7's. I would suggest a Yank 3400 for that camshaft or a Vig3200. Feel free to give us a call and I can help answer any questions you may have.

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So did you save any money? lol New ones are like 900 right?
The one I got is $1100 brand new(Pro Series Multi Disk) not including the cost of the tci flex plate.
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If you buy a used one I would get a FTI or Circle D and then send it back to the mfg to have it checked out and restalled for your mods. This will make it like new without the new price tag. It would also mean you could choose whatever used stall because you will be restalling it anyway.
Correct. We only have custom built FTI units having bracket raced for years with most others mentioned. Have had good luck with the others, but FTI has never let us down and runs quicker than any others of equivilant spec we have ever run.

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Wow that cam sounds sick, gahdang I like it.

I bet you need a converter probably getting some cam surge at lights eh?
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