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Old 05-17-2013, 06:28 PM   #126
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I spent some time with the CTS-Vs that are running during the V8 Supercar event at COTA. There are elements of the car they do not want to show in photos so I can't show you great pictures.

The fronts have TWO ducts per side feeding carbon fiber custom made oval shape tubing. The tubing dumps into the rotor center and on the caliper. HUGE volume. HUGE.

In the rear they have a saddle like carbon fiber part that sits across the top of the caliper. ONE 'hump' in the saddle dumps air into the rotor blades. THE other 'hump' cools the caliper and center section. IT is a design that makes so much sense you look at it and say of course this is the right way to do this.


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Old 05-17-2013, 11:34 PM   #127
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:42 AM   #128
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Do you have a price yet or is there a group buy quantity we need to hit to get a group price?
Not yet. I am not one to start taking people's money for what at this point is vapor-ware. Once we get closer to shipping we will get that ball rolling.

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also interested in why they are making 4 pot vs 6 pot calipers for the Camaro.
These are going to be a bolt on direct upgrade for for the SS brake system. They will be lighter and perform better than the Brembos and provide 4-5mm more spoke clearance. They will be able to be used with RB SS rotors or even stock rotors. Those things would not be possible with a 6 piston caliper. For those that need to make the jump to 6 pot there is the ZL1 upgrade and I have a feeling we will be able to convince RB to do 6 pot calipers for that set up if there is a good response to this product.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:25 PM   #129
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Need a test mule chase
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i will throw a bitch fit if i dont have the first! kidding. rb already knows i want it and will get a set as soon as they have em. i will be testing out their stock caliper rebuild kit on june 1st the latest on a track. if anyone is interested in squeezing the most out of their stock calipers i will have a review then.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:31 PM   #130
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test mule is me muahaha!

i will throw a bitch fit if i dont have the first! kidding. rb already knows i want it and will get a set as soon as they have em. i will be testing out their stock caliper rebuild kit on june 1st the latest on a track. if anyone is interested in squeezing the most out of their stock calipers i will have a review then.
what's involved in the rebuild kit?
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:52 PM   #131
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what's involved in the rebuild kit?
This kit includes the following to rebuild one pair of calipers:

8 Pressure Seals

8 Dust Boots
8 Stainless Steel Pistons
Notice that these RacingBrake caliper rebuild components do not include and do not need shims. Eliminating the need for shims lowers overall cost and more importantly allows more direct positive torque transmission resulting in better braking.

These stainless steel pistons are excellent upgrade from your stock aluminum pistons, not only they are stronger and more rigid than aluminum, they will not corrode and can transmit more brake torque but with less heat (about 1/10) than stock aluminum pistons.

Our pistons also have vents to further prevent heat transfer to fluid, allow you to run your brake system at lower temperature which means less replacement on brake fluid, and eliminate the use of titanium shims saving you down time, operating and maintenance cost.

If you are hard on brake and have been looking to improve your overall braking efficiency, and tired of replacing brake fluid and don't like the soft pedal due to the use of heat shield Titanium shims, look no more!
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:36 PM   #132
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I have heard rumors that a couple of places are close with this type of design. IF not, I am going to go down and have BannonM help me out since he is local and a great guy.

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I'm always interested in something better than what I have. But so far no vendors have come through.

T, give me a shout when you're ready. You got my number.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:20 PM   #133
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This kit includes the following to rebuild one pair of calipers:

8 Pressure Seals

8 Dust Boots
8 Stainless Steel Pistons
Notice that these RacingBrake caliper rebuild components do not include and do not need shims. Eliminating the need for shims lowers overall cost and more importantly allows more direct positive torque transmission resulting in better braking.

These stainless steel pistons are excellent upgrade from your stock aluminum pistons, not only they are stronger and more rigid than aluminum, they will not corrode and can transmit more brake torque but with less heat (about 1/10) than stock aluminum pistons.

Our pistons also have vents to further prevent heat transfer to fluid, allow you to run your brake system at lower temperature which means less replacement on brake fluid, and eliminate the use of titanium shims saving you down time, operating and maintenance cost.

If you are hard on brake and have been looking to improve your overall braking efficiency, and tired of replacing brake fluid and don't like the soft pedal due to the use of heat shield Titanium shims, look no more!
Where did you find the SS pistons? I searched their website and even had a discussion about it with JP in another thread but could not find them. I have all of the other components, just need the SS pistons.

RB really needs to get their website together. I had to call them to get my rebuild kit of seals and dust boots.

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Old 05-19-2013, 12:26 PM   #134
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Where did you find the SS pistons? I searched their website and even had a discussion about it with JP in another thread but could not find them. I have all of the other components, just need the SS pistons.

RB really needs to get their website together. I had to call them to get my rebuild kit of seals and dust boots.

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http://www.racingbrake.com/CTS-V-Cam...p/bc-41bsp.htm

http://www.racingbrake.com/CTS-V-Cam...p/bc-42bsp.htm

I found them without a problem. Click on oem caliper rebuild on the main page and select the prompts to match your car. Not sure if they sell them separate but I am sure if you called them they would work something out for you.
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http://www.racingbrake.com/CTS-V-Cam...p/bc-41bsp.htm

http://www.racingbrake.com/CTS-V-Cam...p/bc-42bsp.htm

I found them without a problem. Click on oem caliper rebuild on the main page and select the prompts to match your car. Not sure if they sell them separate but I am sure if you called them they would work something out for you.
Only downside is the "usually ships in 6 to 8 weeks" ouch
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:42 PM   #136
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Only downside is the "usually ships in 6 to 8 weeks" ouch
Well they are custom made for our car so I guess they don't stock a whole bunch? Not sure. Ask Blake, I don't think he had to wait long to get his.
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pick my rebuild kit up tomorrow. along with some pads and other gooodies i ordered friday benefit of being local to them i suppose.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #138
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I will be at RacingBrake tomorrow in the am. If anyone wants pictures of anything let me know. I will have photos of the caliper rebuild kit for sure since they will be joining me in the garage.
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I will be at RacingBrake tomorrow in the am. If anyone wants pictures of anything let me know. I will have photos of the caliper rebuild kit for sure since they will be joining me in the garage.
Pics of these calipers would be nice.
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Don't suppose you could talk them into giving me a good deal on rotors for zl1 calipers while your there could you? Lol.
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Pics of these calipers would be nice.
i may get pics of some...without the mounting hardware/adapter

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Don't suppose you could talk them into giving me a good deal on rotors for zl1 calipers while your there could you? Lol.
afraid you are on your own for that one.
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:19 PM   #142
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pic of weight of caliper without pads or mounting hardware. plus some weight of the packing stuff.
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pic of half the caliper and a great shot of the pistons
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so they have a camaro spindle in their hands and are making test fits. they will have access to a camaro with both the oem 20s and 18s for the track for further fitment clarifications. People who are taking preorders are probably jumping the gun but not by much

They will have a total upgrade kit or package containing rotors and calipers as well as sell them normally. It will be in their website soon.

High gloss black blue and red powdercoat for those that care about colors. Blue is a more expensive color fyi.

I will have a review of their oem caliper rebuild kit (install and track review) as well as some of their track pads after my next track day on June 1st.
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pic of weight of caliper without pads or mounting hardware. plus some weight of the packing stuff.
It's only a 4 potter? You think it would be worth the price to replace the brembos with these or do the CTS-V set?

Also looking at how I could mod these for track usage. for 2k these are a bargin. Would need to source some 12.91" rotors and machine a bracket but I bet I could find an existing bracket that is already very close.

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ohh ya forgot to mention the allen head bolts that keep the pads in. amazing concept instead of the pins.... i am pretty sure with these calipers we can change pads without taking the wheels off...beat that.
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It's only a 4 potter? You think it would be worth the price to replace the brembos with these or do the CTS-V set?

Also looking at how I could mod these for track usage. for 2k these are a bargin. Would need to source some 12.91" rotors and machine a bracket but I bet I could find an existing bracket that is already very close.

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i am confused by your questions and picture.

I can say only you can decide whats right for you. They do make ctsv/zl1 sized rotors and caliper rebuild kits i know for sure. Not sure if they make the caliper to be honest.

If you are asking my opinion. I like the weight loss. I wish to see my completed setup brake against a ctsv oem setup.
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ohh ya forgot to mention the allen head bolts that keep the rotors in. amazing concept instead of the pins.... i am pretty sure with these calipers we can change pads without taking the wheels off...beat that.
That would be awesome - do they have an estimated price yet for these?
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I saw a picture of them on apex's Facebook page.
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That would be awesome - do they have an estimated price yet for these?
I have an idea...but dont know if i am supposed to say. It should be on RB's website soon.

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I saw a picture of them on apex's Facebook page.
yes Apex and Chase specifically have been as excited for this product as I am. FYI Chase RB says your a quality no problem vendor. Many of us here know that...might be nice to hear me paraphrasing that from one of your suppliers.
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