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Old 05-12-2013, 03:03 PM   #1
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Can a Mini Cooper S beat the2013 camaro 1lt

In a straight line and on a course I'm in a heated debate with my cousin! He says he has a stock supercharger.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:10 PM   #2
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:14 PM   #3
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In a straight line and on a course I'm in a heated debate with my cousin! He says he has a stock supercharger.
He does have a stock supercharger. It should be close in a straight line. 0-60 will be side-by-side, you might pull ahead in the 1/4. In the twisties, he is probably going to walk away from you unless you have made some suspension upgrades. Those things are like go-carts.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:14 PM   #4
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Ok, heading to the strip now lol
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #5
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The LT owns it imo.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:44 PM   #6
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I have owned both as well. It's a drivers race on the strip and road course you will see his tail lights for sure.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:47 PM   #7
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It would be a different story if you had an SS.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:50 PM   #8
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I figured the cooper S it's like an SS in the camaro world
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:55 PM   #9
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A friend of mine has a Cooper S, well the supercharged one. With my new suspension I am not so sure it is a walk. Straight away I can catch him, corner with out new suspension he pulled away a little but it wasn't a walk away. I think the Cooper S is about 32K my car was 24K so stock stock not same. I say for price get a 1LE to battle the Cooper... haha.. now thats a walk away... perhaps a trot away.
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Old 05-12-2013, 05:10 PM   #10
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I actually thought about selling my '10 S/Ced SS and buying a John Cooper S Mini car. Went and test drove and realized there'd be no way I could go down that much in the acceleration food chain.

Two days later I bought a ZL1. lol
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I drove through a BMW lot when it was Mini Cooper Madness or some such.

Grown men looking at mini coopers

All eyes went to the Camaro.
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A stock s/c mini S could not beat a 1LT camaro in a straight line. If it was an 07+ (or when ever the cooper S went turbo) I have a feeling it might be close. If it is a 07+ JCW I would actually enjoy watching that, I think it would be close. But as for a stock S/C mini s........ no way.

Ive driven a 07 mini S t/c (friends car) and a 2010 camaro 1lt (rental car). track the mini may have it, especially a tight autocross type track. straight line camaro hands down.

line 'em up anyway, shut your cousin up. oooooo wow a stock supercharger...... so what? a saturn ion redline has a stock supercharger, a 2004-2007 cobalt ss has a stock supercharger (not saying they are slow, but i know they wont take a lt camaro stock) a 03 ford focus svt has a stock supercharger.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:12 AM   #13
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not sure what year the car is or if its a john works but looks like low 15s to low 14s depending on model. http://www.zeroto60times.com/Mini-Co...mph-Times.html
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #14
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A stock s/c mini S could not beat a 1LT camaro in a straight line. If it was an 07+ (or when ever the cooper S went turbo) I have a feeling it might be close. If it is a 07+ JCW I would actually enjoy watching that, I think it would be close. But as for a stock S/C mini s........ no way.

Ive driven a 07 mini S t/c (friends car) and a 2010 camaro 1lt (rental car). track the mini may have it, especially a tight autocross type track. straight line camaro hands down.

line 'em up anyway, shut your cousin up. oooooo wow a stock supercharger...... so what? a saturn ion redline has a stock supercharger, a 2004-2007 cobalt ss has a stock supercharger (not saying they are slow, but i know they wont take a lt camaro stock) a 03 ford focus svt has a stock supercharger.
You hardcore contradict yourself. Lol. First you say it would be close then you say hands down the camaro. The S went turbo in 07.

And no focus came stock with a blower. They made the SVT 02-04. It Had High compression and nice suspension and a 6 speed trans. No boost though.
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I ran a 15.4 at 90 mph in my all stock 06 Mini Cooper S 6 spd. Never ran it after I did a pulley swap, but that made it much faster. That car was very fun to drive and sometimes I wish I had kept it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:22 PM   #16
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Are u kidding me 186 hp vs 300 + camaro all the way.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:36 PM   #17
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Are u kidding me 186 hp vs 300 + camaro all the way.
forgot about the big weight difference
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forgot about the big weight difference
That's the trap many fall into. They feel that because their V6 Camaro makes 300+ hp it must be fast.
Unfortunately due to the weight (3700 + lbs) its not all that fast. Don't get me wrong its not slow. But by today's standards its quite average in speed.
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Even the 2012 turbo charged S is rated at mid 6 second 0 - 60 and a 15 second quarter mile. If this is an older less powerful model, you can expect to win in the straight line.

As for handling, whichever of you has more experience in the twisties will win, and when turns are involved, driver skill plays a much larger role.
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A V6 with full bolt ons, Long tube Headers, Exhaust, throttle body, CAI, Ported insulated intake and tune would eat the little bugger alive. Who would race a stock V6 Camaro anyways? You could attain 290 whp with these mods.. Good tires and suspension will leave it far behind.
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Even the 2012 turbo charged S is rated at mid 6 second 0 - 60 and a 15 second quarter mile. If this is an older less powerful model, you can expect to win in the straight line.

As for handling, whichever of you has more experience in the twisties will win, and when turns are involved, driver skill plays a much larger role.
Wouldn't catch me driving a Cooper Mini if you paid me, but several mags and online sources got high 14s out of the Mini Cooper S.

Here's the stats from one online mag testing

2012 Mini Cooper S vert
Valvetrain: DOHC, 16v, Valvetronic variable valve timing
Compression ratio: 10.5:1
Horsepower: 181bhp@5,500rpm
Torque: 177ft-lb@1,600-5,000rpm (192lb-ft on overboost mode)
Rev limit: 6,500rpm


Suspension (F) MacPherson Strut, Coil Spring, Anti-Roll Bar
Suspension (R) 4-link Independent, Aluminum Rear Trailing Arms, Coil Spring, Anti-Roll Bar
Steering: Rack & Pinion, Electronic Power Assist
Wheels/Tires: 17×7″ Alloy, 205/45/ZR17 run-flat tires
Brakes (F/R): 11.6″ vented discs F/ 10.2″ solid discs R. Anti-lock, corner brake control, elec. brakeforce distribution

0-60mph: 6.5s
Top speed: 142mph
1/4 Mile: 14.8 seconds

So its real close to V6 Camaro performance wise. But I'll definately give the edge to the V6 Camaro in a stragiht line.
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You hardcore contradict yourself. Lol. First you say it would be close then you say hands down the camaro. The S went turbo in 07.

And no focus came stock with a blower. They made the SVT 02-04. It Had High compression and nice suspension and a 6 speed trans. No boost though.
Yes, close with the 07s and up. Hands down Camaro vs the s/c mini s. Is that better clarity?

As for the Ford, thanks for teaching me something.
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Wouldn't catch me driving a Cooper Mini if you paid me, but several mags and online sources got high 14s out of the Mini Cooper S.

Here's the stats from one online mag testing

2012 Mini Cooper S vert
Valvetrain: DOHC, 16v, Valvetronic variable valve timing
Compression ratio: 10.5:1
Horsepower: 181bhp@5,500rpm
Torque: 177ft-lb@1,600-5,000rpm (192lb-ft on overboost mode)
Rev limit: 6,500rpm


Suspension (F) MacPherson Strut, Coil Spring, Anti-Roll Bar
Suspension (R) 4-link Independent, Aluminum Rear Trailing Arms, Coil Spring, Anti-Roll Bar
Steering: Rack & Pinion, Electronic Power Assist
Wheels/Tires: 17×7″ Alloy, 205/45/ZR17 run-flat tires
Brakes (F/R): 11.6″ vented discs F/ 10.2″ solid discs R. Anti-lock, corner brake control, elec. brakeforce distribution

0-60mph: 6.5s
Top speed: 142mph
1/4 Mile: 14.8 seconds

So its real close to V6 Camaro performance wise. But I'll definately give the edge to the V6 Camaro in a stragiht line.
That's a vert. Not a hardtop. The vert is slower.
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At autocross mini coopers and cooper s's are in D stock class with us v6 camaros and mustangs and cobalt ss' s, one of our cooper drivers and cobalt ss drivers run national events and are very good drivers and they are hard to match time with makes sundays fun with something to compete with
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