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Old 05-14-2013, 05:30 PM   #26
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #27
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #28
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^^^^YES IT DOES. After the awesome sound of LTs, AFM was the second thing I noticed. You can really tell when it kicks in with headers. That's why I am just parking it until I get my tune in a couple of days. I am not knocking on the Range device. I just want to get the most out of the headers. Can't wait!!
Your doing it right! But why remote tune bud when your down there in the Mecca of the LsX world lol.
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Personal preference? Your 510HP motor drinks gas faster than a Honda. You don't feel bad for driving a gas guzzler? You're depleting natural resources rapidly
the planets atmosphere is way worse of an issue of gas guzzling.
and my car is 49 state legal even with the parts installed and blows clean.
Didn't you hear the US now has as much oil as the Middle East from shale discoveries.
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Sorry not buying it.
there is no reason not to have them unless racecar or not equipped from the factory.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #30
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Lmbo! Dusk even your oracle lighting is light pollution lol! Your car is NEVA gonna be 49 state legal with LT's and that stage 4 cam lol!
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:42 PM   #31
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Lmbo! Dusk even your oracle lighting is light pollution lol! Your car is NEVA gonna be 49 state legal with LT's and that stage 4 cam lol!
um I have no idea what you are talking about. the car is 100% in compliance with all states that require emissions testing and OE equipment.
only Cali since my parts do not have CARB stickers.

Texas DOES require yearly testing and I am compliant here.
sorry I specifically made sure I would have no issues before installing any parts that I was legal.
The emissions equipment was NOT touched and the cats were replaced with legal high flow versions.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:49 PM   #32
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:12 PM   #33
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um I have no idea what you are talking about. the car is 100% in compliance with all states that require emissions testing and OE equipment.
only Cali since my parts do not have CARB stickers.

Texas DOES require yearly testing and I am compliant here.
sorry I specifically made sure I would have no issues before installing any parts that I was legal.
The emissions equipment was NOT touched and the cats were replaced with legal high flow versions.

Ok do you understand that by you relocating the stock position of the cats your car technically is now "off road" and is technically illegal as far as the "EPA" is concerned, will you pass your state emission testings? Sure as long as your tune is correct and you have NO "CEL" lights you'll be fine. You think that your headers are 49state legal? Lol HELL no they will never carry a carb certification especially your cam bud. No need to get mad or anything it's just the truth.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:26 PM   #35
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Yep. By EPA laws if emission devices have been removed, moved or altered they are no longer compliant. I worked for Midas for years as an ase certified under car specialist that includes exhaust systems certification.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:20 PM   #36
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Looking at getting headers and high flow cats soon (2011 L99 borla atak catback) leaning towards kooks long tubes.. Any of you members out there running headers and cats with out a tune?
Yes, I'm running Coated Kooks long tubes with HFC's without a tune.(B&B 3" catback) have been running with them about 2,000 miles and CEL came on about 2 or 3 weeks after the install! I just got a EFI Live,(very good deal) so I will be tuned very soon!
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:49 PM   #37
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I've got Cat-back aftermarket exhaust only....If cats reduce pollution, that's fine...I believe if you take them off and are pulled over, and the exhaust is looked over by a savvy officer, or you take it in for an emissions inspection and you have no cats,...the fine is huge, your car is impounded, and you may not get it back. It's federal law and not worth the risk to me..good luck if you do....
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um I have no idea what you are talking about. the car is 100% in compliance with all states that require emissions testing and OE equipment.
only Cali since my parts do not have CARB stickers.

Texas DOES require yearly testing and I am compliant here.
sorry I specifically made sure I would have no issues before installing any parts that I was legal.
The emissions equipment was NOT touched and the cats were replaced with legal high flow versions.
you'll have to go see your tuner first to pass TX inspection

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Ok do you understand that by you relocating the stock position of the cats your car technically is now "off road" and is technically illegal as far as the "EPA" is concerned, will you pass your state emission testings? Sure as long as your tune is correct and you have NO "CEL" lights you'll be fine. You think that your headers are 49state legal? Lol HELL no they will never carry a carb certification especially your cam bud. No need to get mad or anything it's just the truth.
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...and in Texas you cannot have more than one "not ready" code, meaning if you turn your O2 sensors off to avoid a CEL that's 2 and you won't pass. I see these guys get their new cars with a 2 year inspection from the dealer totally forget about this stuff until they have to get the inspection done.
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Your doing it right! But why remote tune bud when your down there in the Mecca of the LsX world lol.
I wanted a dyno tune but I shopped around in my area and the problem was that I wanted more control of my stock file and didn't want to have to return to the tuner should I need to return to stock for whatever reason. I know....just do it and don't look back (I have read enough of your posts) but I am not as hard-core as you....at least not yet.

Thanks for all the good posts though. I have learned and confirmed a lot by them.
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I wanted a dyno tune but I shopped around in my area and the problem was that I wanted more control of my stock file and didn't want to have to return to the tuner should I need to return to stock for whatever reason. I know....just do it and don't look back (I have read enough of your posts) but I am not as hard-core as you....at least not yet.

Thanks for all the good posts though. I have learned and confirmed a lot by them.
Lol ahh gotcha, if you have a handheld or if you get one your tuner can also save that file in your handheld so you can switch it back to stock as well. Some hold up to 3 tunes. But that's all good bud!!

Hope it makes lots of powa!! Keep us posted!
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That's exactly what I did. I already had an SCT X3 and the only dyno tuner I trusted had an EFI setup. My tune is on order as of a couple of minutes ago. I should have it before the end of the week and will be testing on the butt-dyno shortly thereafter! After that, I will find a dyno and do a couple of pulls just so I have an idea of numbers.
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That's exactly what I did. I already had an SCT X3 and the only dyno tuner I trusted had an EFI setup. My tune is on order as of a couple of minutes ago. I should have it before the end of the week and will be testing on the butt-dyno shortly thereafter! After that, I will find a dyno and do a couple of pulls just so I have an idea of numbers.
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That's exactly what I did. I already had an SCT X3 and the only dyno tuner I trusted had an EFI setup. My tune is on order as of a couple of minutes ago. I should have it before the end of the week and will be testing on the butt-dyno shortly thereafter! After that, I will find a dyno and do a couple of pulls just so I have an idea of numbers.
Awesome!
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:36 AM   #44
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Um SC cars still pollute...
and ZL1s and ZR1s still have cats..
cost? was very little difference with the SW system.

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Spraying will destroy cats too. Post 8.
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Ran no tune, headers and hf cats with no issues other than cel coming on after about 200 miles, LS3 though. Was a little rich. Spraying destroyed the cats. So they are punched out now, the passenger side punched itself out. No cats with tune has an occasional smell, depends on wind, not very bad. If not doing nitrous or supercharging, then either way would be fine.
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This thread got sideways fast lol

The short answer yes.

The drone and CEL will start to bug the heck out of you, but the car wont have any issues, with the exception of some of your FOB and specialty features of the car might not work with the CEL on.

Just spending a couple grand on parts and not maximizing them will always seem odd, but the car wont have issues.

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This thread got sideways fast lol

The short answer yes.

The drone and CEL will start to bug the heck out of you, but the car wont have any issues, with the exception of some of your FOB and specialty features of the car might not work with the CEL on.

Just spending a couple grand on parts and not maximizing them will always seem odd, but the car wont have issues.

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The way I see it... It's a win/win/win. The OP gets their answer (eventually), we get some good laughs, and you venders get to pop in and drop your name. I vote this be the new approved way to handle repeat threads.
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you'll have to go see your tuner first to pass TX inspection

Correct...

...and in Texas you cannot have more than one "not ready" code, meaning if you turn your O2 sensors off to avoid a CEL that's 2 and you won't pass. I see these guys get their new cars with a 2 year inspection from the dealer totally forget about this stuff until they have to get the inspection done.


Ok I just talked to Shawn.
he said my car should be 100% compliant with Texas inspection and emission laws.
and I should NOT have to go see him or require anything else for the inspection.
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you'll have to go see your tuner first to pass TX inspection

Correct...

...and in Texas you cannot have more than one "not ready" code, meaning if you turn your O2 sensors off to avoid a CEL that's 2 and you won't pass. I see these guys get their new cars with a 2 year inspection from the dealer totally forget about this stuff until they have to get the inspection done.
You could just move to a TX county that doesn't have emission testing like me.
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Ok I just talked to Shawn.
he said my car should be 100% compliant with Texas inspection and emission laws.
and I should NOT have to go see him or require anything else for the inspection.
That's good to know Dusk!!!

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My main reason for not wanting a tune was powertrain warranty issues, but I guess it might not be an issues if its just to tune for the headers as they would have to prove any problems were from they tune itself
GOODLUCK with that any dealer is going to look at your headers read the computer and see a tune and your warranty is gone my friend mess with the comp= no warranty
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Um it is still illegal.. don't care if you eat them or not.

I'm sorry I'm all for performance and HP. but excessively polluting because you are too cheap or because boost will chew them up is not a valid reason.
so is texas doing emissions testing now?
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