Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
BORLA
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-14-2013, 04:28 PM   #15
thahemp
Geek
 
thahemp's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Black LS3
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Derby, KS
Posts: 4,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskSS View Post
Um SC cars still pollute...
and ZL1s and ZR1s still have cats..
cost? was very little difference with the SW system.

/boggle.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183230

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269253 (post #8)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267204

There are tons of examples. Superchargers melt HF cats.
__________________
01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001

x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1
x = ~x
thahemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 04:44 PM   #16
Bo White



 
Bo White's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Summit White 1SS
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 5,242
Yep. Vehicles that are boosted with a good tune eat cats over time.
Bo White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 04:50 PM   #17
DuskSS
Bayou City Muscle Cars
 
DuskSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS Dusk Edition
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 1,442
Um it is still illegal.. don't care if you eat them or not.

I'm sorry I'm all for performance and HP. but excessively polluting because you are too cheap or because boost will chew them up is not a valid reason.
__________________
2013 2SS Dusk Edition
Lethal Racing Stage V
PER 418ci Forged LS3
530/520 SAE
DuskSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:05 PM   #18
Nutro


 
Nutro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS Synergy Green
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskSS View Post
Um it is still illegal.. don't care if you eat them or not.

I'm sorry I'm all for performance and HP. but excessively polluting because you are too cheap or because boost will chew them up is not a valid reason.
Personal preference? Your 510HP motor drinks gas faster than a Honda. You don't feel bad for driving a gas guzzler? You're depleting natural resources rapidly
__________________
2011 L99 W/ Kooks Long Tubes, Ported TB, Roto-Fab CAI, Apex Catch can, Stainless Works 3" ZL-1 Catback, Overdriven Maggie @10 Pounds boost putting down 501/535 on a conservative tune. Oh and Forgestar 20's
Nutro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:09 PM   #19
litle88
V8 Lounge member #2
 
litle88's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Ws6
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Burbank,IL
Posts: 6,337
Your polluting turning a Camaro SS with a 6.2 L/376ci motor, I love pulling up next to a Prius with my cutouts open and 22* of catless overlap on a nice HOT azz day in humid shitcago.

L99 has NO cats, the blown GTO has NO cats, and I sleep well and love the fumes.


Op if you want headers and can deal with the CEL light on and the horrible sound when DOD kicks in then just run them. If not just tune it! I tuned mine back in 2010 just 10? Weeks after delivery and I haven't had a problem.
__________________
2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.
litle88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:13 PM   #20
PoorMansCamaro



 
PoorMansCamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: Really Slow
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 55,423
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskSS View Post
Um it is still illegal.. don't care if you eat them or not.

I'm sorry I'm all for performance and HP. but excessively polluting because you are too cheap or because boost will chew them up is not a valid reason.
__________________
PoorMansCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:15 PM   #21
thahemp
Geek
 
thahemp's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Black LS3
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Derby, KS
Posts: 4,343
Cats are ineffective until they heat up too. My drive to work is 2 minutes long. My factory cats haven't done sh!t for the environment for 75% of all the miles on the car.

You get headers, and you've moved them even further down the exhaust stream. They say 5 minutes on a typical car before the cat is at operating temp. It would be even longer with headers + HF cats.

I'm not worried about the EPA prosecuting me for something that is perfectly legal in my state.
__________________
01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001

x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1
x = ~x
thahemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:16 PM   #22
Bo White



 
Bo White's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Summit White 1SS
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 5,242
Yep. If you really car for the environment you would be driving a Prius. I too feel that today's cat technology has caught up to the performance levels of today but most high flow cats still throw codes and most feel what's the point. I also feel that today's v8s make less hydrocarbons uncatted vs catted v8s of 20 years ago. Now, if you go with a can with any amount of lope you pollute even more. This website is full of members that don't give a rats a$$ when it comes to cats or no cats. I feel that if you don't care then at least get a proper tune and keep the vehicle well maintained.
Back on subject of the op now.
Bo White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:21 PM   #23
RJT-SS
 
RJT-SS's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 2SS/RS A6
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 501
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveagogo1 View Post
AFM is gonna suck big time with headers.
^^^^YES IT DOES. After the awesome sound of LTs, AFM was the second thing I noticed. You can really tell when it kicks in with headers. That's why I am just parking it until I get my tune in a couple of days. I am not knocking on the Range device. I just want to get the most out of the headers. Can't wait!!
__________________
Performance Mods:
Kooks 1-7/8 LTs; Calico coated w/HFCs, Solo Mach XL catback w/J-pipes, VMax TB, C.A.I. Intake, JRE Tune, RX Catch-Can
RJT-SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #24
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,724
I couldn't give a shit about my pollution when there are countries that only burn leaded gasoline. Fix their pollution before you come after mine.
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:30 PM   #25
litle88
V8 Lounge member #2
 
litle88's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Ws6
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Burbank,IL
Posts: 6,337
In other news! Lol

__________________
2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.
litle88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:30 PM   #26
Dznts
Anabolic Connoisseur
 
Dznts's Avatar
 
Drives: Sold - Blown Camaro 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 22,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by litle88 View Post
In other news! Lol

__________________
Dznts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #27
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,724
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #28
litle88
V8 Lounge member #2
 
litle88's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Ws6
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Burbank,IL
Posts: 6,337
Quote:
Originally Posted by RJT-SS View Post
^^^^YES IT DOES. After the awesome sound of LTs, AFM was the second thing I noticed. You can really tell when it kicks in with headers. That's why I am just parking it until I get my tune in a couple of days. I am not knocking on the Range device. I just want to get the most out of the headers. Can't wait!!
Your doing it right! But why remote tune bud when your down there in the Mecca of the LsX world lol.
__________________
2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.
litle88 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.