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Old 05-16-2013, 02:44 PM   #1
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2015 Mustang Power Plant Rumors

Strong Rumor: 2015 Mustang Engine Lineup Leaked, Includes 475 hp 5.0 Coyote



http://www.stangtv.com/features/car-...es-475-hp-5-0/

"The final rumored engine according to the source would be a slightly revised 5.0 Coyote. Firing yet another salvo in the ponycar wars, the S550 Mustang GT would be carrying a big stick and running a 475 hp version of the popular 302. It’s hard to say exactly how Ford will achieve 475 hp. We would speculate the use of direct injection would help with this since the cylinder heads are already cast with direct injection in mind. Adding DI could allow for more power in the form of either a higher compression ratio, or more aggressive cam profiles, and timing. It may also open the door to further improvements in intake manifold design, and even a cylinder shut down system for cruising, improving fuel economy and emissions while allowing for V8 power on demand. No doubt the engineers have found a way to boost power and ensure the 2015 Mustang debuts as king-of-the-muscelcar-hill."
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:04 PM   #2
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Man....its a FN GREAT TIME THAT WE LIVE IN

MUSCLE CAR WARS ARE BACK!!!!

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Old 05-16-2013, 03:15 PM   #3
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If true, that's pretty stout for a naturally aspirated 5L.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:16 PM   #4
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:34 PM   #5
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #6
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No surprise here. Ford spent good money developing the coyote motor and were able to achieve their power goals without DI. The next step is DI in the coyote. I hope GM's new v8 will make more than the estimated 450 hp.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #7
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If GM doesnt make the 6th gen lighter than the next mustang, it wont be able to keep up with the LT1...That would be a lot of HP for a stock Mustang GT!!! Crazy I'd say!
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:24 PM   #8
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If true, that's pretty stout for a naturally aspirated 5L.
With DOHC (more aggressive cam lobes), Boss 302 IM and DI..500 hp would be the ideal figure imo....7000+ redline. This motor will be revolutionary for American muscle. I just hope the next stang doesn't look like a fusion coupe. The 2013 Mustang looks as good as it gets for a Mustang.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:42 PM   #9
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They need to do something as the 5th Gen is still killing it in sales.

Maybe instead of more power they could offer better transmissions for the same price.
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That 450 LT1 "estimate" better be a lie, otherwise the Camaro is ******.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:58 PM   #12
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They need to do something as the 5th Gen is still killing it in sales.

Maybe instead of more power they could offer better transmissions for the same price.
Yep, they could put 500hp in the 5.0 and it still won't outsell the Camaro.

V6 sales are usually Mustangs bread and butter anyways.

Now hopefully GM won't screw up the Camaro. The Camaro great sales have very little to do with total HP. We are HP junkies in this forum, but most people buy the Camaro for its looks, not its HP numbers.

But I'm sure GM will setup and increase the HP numbers across the board to keep in competive with the Mustang.
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Yep, they could put 500hp in the 5.0 and it still won't outsell the Camaro.

V6 sales are usually Mustangs bread and butter anyways.

Now hopefully GM won't screw up the Camaro. The Camaro great sales have very little to do with total HP. We are HP junkies in this forum, but most people buy the Camaro for its looks, not its HP numbers.

But I'm sure GM will setup and increase the HP numbers across the board to keep in competive with the Mustang.
A lot of (clueless) people base their decisions on these cars solely by their HP ratings, so this could be an issue.
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Yep, they could put 500hp in the 5.0 and it still won't outsell the Camaro.
I don't know about that..
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Yep, they could put 500hp in the 5.0 and it still won't outsell the Camaro.

V6 sales are usually Mustangs bread and butter anyways.

Now hopefully GM won't screw up the Camaro. The Camaro great sales have very little to do with total HP. We are HP junkies in this forum, but most people buy the Camaro for its looks, not its HP numbers.

But I'm sure GM will setup and increase the HP numbers across the board to keep in competive with the Mustang.
I know there have actually been a few months where the Mustang has outsold the Camaro since the 5th gen came out. You have to realize there are many factors to this. For starters there was a pent up demand for the Camaros that had been missing for 8 years. It was the new thing out there. The sales have gotten closer and closer over the years. When the new mustang comes out there will be as much fanfare for it as there was for the 5th gen and it will have the benefit of being the new big thing. I will hedge my bet that the Mustang will take it's top seller spot back.
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A lot of (clueless) people base their decisions on these cars solely by their HP ratings, so this could be an issue.
I certainly would not call anyone who buys these cars based on performance clueless, that IS the real reason why these cars exist as they are. If it was just a matter of looks you could could throw the Camaro body on a Cruze platform and be done with it, but I can guarantee you would lose a LOT of sales.
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There are diehards for both brands, heck i know people that wouldn't buy anything but a ford, period, or vice versa
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I certainly would not call anyone who buys these cars based on performance clueless, that IS the real reason why these cars exist as they are. If it was just a matter of looks you could could throw the Camaro body on a Cruze platform and be done with it, but I can guarantee you would lose a LOT of sales.
I said they base it solely on HP, not performance. I once had a person tell me that my car was better than the Mustang because it has 6 more HP.
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I said they base it solely on HP, not performance. I once had a person tell me that my car was better than the Mustang because it has 6 more HP.
There i agree haha
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I can't wait until the new Mustang and Camaro come out, so I can do some good ol' fashioned car comparison shopping. I narrowed it down to those two out of all the things that are coming out in the next 2 years. If the Mustang comes in under 3,400 lbs with 475hp, it will be a pretty good contender, dare I say it, against a base C7?
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Now hopefully GM won't screw up the Camaro. The Camaro great sales have very little to do with total HP. We are HP junkies in this forum, but most people buy the Camaro for its looks, not its HP numbers.

But I'm sure GM will setup and increase the HP numbers across the board to keep in competive with the Mustang.
Been saying this for a long time. As long as the cars are decently competitive in performance, its will always be the LOOK of the car that determines the winner.

Next gen mustang, with 475 HP, and at 3,400 lbs would still not outsell a Camaro with 460HP and 3,450 lbs if the Camaro looked much better.

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I can't wait until the new Mustang and Camaro come out, so I can do some good ol' fashioned car comparison shopping. I narrowed it down to those two out of all the things that are coming out in the next 2 years. If the Mustang comes in under 3,400 lbs with 475hp, it will be a pretty good contender, dare I say it, against a base C7?
I'll be in utter amazement if they really can shed a couple hundred lbs off the current Mustang and throw a 475HP V8 in there. It will be a freaking monster.

I predict the next gen Camaro V8 to be around 3,550 lbs and have the LT1 with 450 or so HP...that alone will demolish the current pony cars. If Ford does even better it will be something.

Welcome to the new golden age of muscle.

...and all I want is a measly 330+ HP V6 in a 3,400 lb Camaro.
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475 shouldn't be too hard to get, the Boss is at 444 already. I am more curious at the base engine and weight. A 275hp four in a 3200lb base model could make for some decent track cars.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:37 PM   #23
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475 in just a gt sounds far fetched. 10 years ago 420 or 426 was far fetched as well though. Man I hope it doesn't jump to 475. A big jump in Camaro hp will kill our value as well.... Look at the 10 vs 11 mustang values.
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I'll be in utter amazement if they really can shed a couple hundred lbs off the current Mustang and throw a 475HP V8 in there.
And add IRS
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Keep in mind that the 450 number on the LT1 is always proceeded by the words "at least". I have a feeling the real number is going to be 465-475. Also, we already know that the 6th Gen Camaro will be smaller and light, riding on the new lightweight Alpha architecture that just debuted under the Cadillac ATS.
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