Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
dave@hennessey
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Marketplace > Vendor and Seller review / feedback / experiences


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #18
Irnwkrkev
 
Irnwkrkev's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 510
They can't do that if they're a paid sponsor! They'll delete your posts instead

Like they probably will this one.
Irnwkrkev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2013, 01:47 PM   #19
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Bone Stock LS3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 14,140
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irnwkrkev View Post
They can't do that if they're a paid sponsor! They'll delete your posts instead

Like they probably will this one.
Seriously, did you notice that my user name isn't quite the same shade of red as yours... I'm a moderator, and I've been asked for two years to post what happened, and until now I refused....

This sub-forum is exactly what is being demonstrated here... the satisfaction of dis-satisfaction with vendors, regardless of sponsor status....

Having said that, there are people with an unfounded agenda that do nothing but follow vendors around creating havoc.... You don't pay to be here, the sponsoring vendors do... That certainly doesn't mean the vendors are always right, or the members are always wrong....

We delete postings of harassment regardless of whom they are directed towards; be it a general member or a sponsoring vendor. We track post histories prior to making rash decisions, and we have access to much more information than the general populous.
__________________
If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

“If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti

If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2013, 02:57 PM   #20
Irnwkrkev
 
Irnwkrkev's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Miami
Posts: 510
Why refuse for years to help keep someone from getting ripped off..... especially if they've been taken for thousands? It's beneficial for everyone to broadcast troubles and findings.
It can also force manufacturers to keep on their toes with quality.

Vendors always have the right to explain themselves and some of them do a damn good job of it.
Irnwkrkev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2013, 03:26 PM   #21
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Bone Stock LS3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 14,140
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irnwkrkev View Post
Why refuse for years to help keep someone from getting ripped off..... especially if they've been taken for thousands? It's beneficial for everyone to broadcast troubles and findings.
It can also force manufacturers to keep on their toes with quality.

Vendors always have the right to explain themselves and some of them do a damn good job of it.
In my experience it becomes a he said she said thing.

You're written off as a disgruntled customer.

I spend a lot of time at a performance shop, and I've learned one thing... In a quality shop, the occasional unhappy customer is the customer that has no idea what they want in the first place....

Typically, they tramp from shop to shop looking for satisfaction, but like my ex wife, if they don't know what they want it's a given no one else will...

I refuse to be one of them. I knew from the start what I wanted... I didn't go out and buy parts that didn't fit the end product.. I worked with a reputable quality builder and we planned for several months prior to even starting... We saw good things and were getting good information about the kit I was purchasing... and that's how it was right up until my credit card info was given over... Does me slinging mud help anything, maybe to a few close friends that are actually witnesses to what occurred... At this point, I'm just venting... and like I mentioned earlier, I've had literally dozens of people ask me privately via Pm or other methods, and I've steered them to other vendors that have proven their worth and customer support... My two favorites to send people to to this point are Hellion and IPS.

Finally, I'm not the kind to complain... Stuff happens, racecar... I've made two trips to the Texas Mile to set a 5th Gen record, racecar... I'll be going back in October schedule providing, and hopefully it'll work out...
__________________
If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

“If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti

If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 12:03 AM   #22
gmg69
 
gmg69's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Twin Turbo SS, Summit White
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ventura, CA
Posts: 240
To the OP:
Really sorry to hear about your experience there man. Mine couldn't be more different. I spent close to 20k on his twin turbo kit, an LS3 conversion, cam, and a race fuel system. Everything went fine...no troubles, car runs strong.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IJrCOJvy4T4
Thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=240989&page=1
gmg69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 01:19 AM   #23
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,694
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmg69 View Post
To the OP:
Really sorry to hear about your experience there man. Mine couldn't be more different. I spent close to 20k on his twin turbo kit, an LS3 conversion, cam, and a race fuel system. Everything went fine...no troubles, car runs strong.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IJrCOJvy4T4
Thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=240989&page=1
Is that you JR?
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 01:21 AM   #24
KlugSS
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Wow! Very interesting.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 01:29 AM   #25
BigBlock69RS
Ed
 
BigBlock69RS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 942
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS View Post

He is a silver spoon born tool making money off of his families name... and screwing the world one customer or ten at a time...
Wow what a sleaz-ball, definitely convinced me never to buy anything from him. hope this thread stays so I can link to it if anyone ever asks about them...
__________________
BigBlock69RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 01:31 AM   #26
bw26ss
Banned
 
Drives: ss camaro
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: usa
Posts: 876
i was going to buy a few things, guess not now
bw26ss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 08:15 PM   #27
Whipped416

 
Whipped416's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,517
i will be taking my wires apart tonight and look at them...
did u take any pics robert?
Whipped416 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 09:23 PM   #28
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Bone Stock LS3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 14,140
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whipped416 View Post
i will be taking my wires apart tonight and look at them...
did u take any pics robert?
Pics of the wires...??? No, waste of time,,,, When we saw what they were we threw them away and put my factory wires back on... There are tons of pics of the turbo debacle and over 100 witnesses as to how it happened... Lots of it is in my build thread... We did keep the little heat shield socks he uses to disguise the crappy wires... Best part of the whole wire set... They were cut and assemble wires... buy in bulk and cut to fit... then cover them to sell as high dollar wires... I bet I could build the entire set for 25% or less of what he charges for them...
__________________
If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

“If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti

If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 11:17 PM   #29
Supermaro585HP
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,186
I just put Granatelli rotors on my 2011 SS RS with Hawk pads. The rear bracket is rubbing on the rotors and making noise while driving and get worse when braking. The front ones are fine. It looks like the rotors might be slightly bigger than stock and causing this. After reading this post I'm wondering what kind of BS I'm going to have to go trough to return these. I did get them through Summit so maybe I will be ok. What a pain in the ass though..
Supermaro585HP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 12:37 AM   #30
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,694
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS View Post
Pics of the wires...??? No, waste of time,,,, When we saw what they were we threw them away and put my factory wires back on... There are tons of pics of the turbo debacle and over 100 witnesses as to how it happened... Lots of it is in my build thread... We did keep the little heat shield socks he uses to disguise the crappy wires... Best part of the whole wire set... They were cut and assemble wires... buy in bulk and cut to fit... then cover them to sell as high dollar wires... I bet I could build the entire set for 25% or less of what he charges for them...
You have the largest build thread in the history of build threads...
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 03:27 AM   #31
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Bone Stock LS3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 14,140
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyg36 View Post
You have the largest build thread in the history of build threads...
Most of the witness comments are on page 33... Lots of funny reading in addition as well.

Page 33 if your page count is 25 posts per page...
__________________
If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

“If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti

If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 04:50 PM   #32
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,694
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS View Post
Most of the witness comments are on page 33... Lots of funny reading in addition as well.

Page 33 if your page count is 25 posts per page...
Ok I'll go check it out. I liked Doug's comments about poop
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 05:13 PM   #33
mikeyg36


 
mikeyg36's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533, 2016 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Garden City, NY/Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 6,694
Wow. He is a piece of shit if he actually said that to a custom.
__________________
“Driving a muscle car fast isn't that fun, it's driving one slowly and making a ton of noise and pissing people off, that's what’s fun.” –Matt Farah
mikeyg36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 10:31 PM   #34
sweasey
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2 SS RS
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Thousand Oaks
Posts: 10
At the cost of being the next person banned for sticking up for Granatelli, here it goes. I am 56 and can finally afford the car I always wanted. While I did have a 1969 Z28 in a past life prior to marriage and kids. My 2010 is the first nice car I have had for "me". Meaning not a 4 door to chauffeur my family around.

I researched all my options and in fact did see that SSE 4 2SS started a link about adding Granatelli twin turbos. The fact that Granatelli, Paxton, Whipple, Vortech, Turbonetics and Magnusson are all basically local companies, I sorta had my pick.

I made a trip to Granatelli, Paxton, Vortech, Turbonetics and Magnusson all in the same day as they are only a few miles apart. Far and away Granatelli was the easy choice for me. They make you feel like you are one of their own. I will add that darn near every time I was at Granatelli Joey B and his famous blue bass ass Camaro was there getting more work. So, needless to say I have had several conversations with him. He has always been very complementary to J.R. Granatelli and this is the first time I have heard him say he was not happy and I can tell you his car did not break down every time they worked on it or he would not keep coming back. Its too bad he had to resort to a slam tactic rather then speak with GMS.

My Twin turbo kit and all the suspension came direct from Granatelli and I have been driving it likes it stolen for over a year. I even remember once when Joey B was there I was showing off and bounced my car off a curb and Granatelli in typical fashion bent over backwards to make sure I was OK and help me get my car repaired at no profit to himself. I have been there countless times and seen him do work for Joey B, GMG69, myself and several others for free. Like installing a billet grill in Joey B's car before he left for a car show at a moments notice. He installed my 1G suspension while i waited and let me watch the entire process.

I can't say much more than that but I can say Granatelli has ALWAYS been happy to take my call and happy to help. They offer pick up and delivery and I know they have been to Joey B's house several times at no charge to him.

There was a comment made about parts being made in China - more hearsay. I watch Granatelli and his staff make every suspension part that is on my car right there in house. There are videos out there that show that.

If this gets me banned then so be it but Joey B I think you know Joe would do anything for you if you asked nicely and explained your concerns. In your comment above you say you spun a cam bearing and that when Granatelli worked on your engine the bearings were good. If he installed your camshaft and it eat the bearings there must be a reason. I saw your car make 740rwhp on the dyno with the huge Vortech and Cog drive and then I saw you drive it away like it was stock. It was awesome.

Hope everything works out for you.

adding more:

I re-re-read this thread. Granatelli wires have had so many great things said about them and so many dyno tests from all over the country. They are American made and not cheap crap at indicated by SSE 4 2SS. Sir I know you have tons of pull around here and your voice is well respected. I read your thread and you probably don't recall speaking with me in the parking lot at the motel outside of AZ during CamaroFest. You told me then that you though Granatelli was a stand up guy because he gave you the turbos off his own engine and helped you change them in his trailer in 100-degree weather inside his trailer right there at the event. You told me you were especially impressed because didn't even buy the turbo kit from him. Now you are inferring otherwise. If you recall you talked me out of journal bearing turbos and said that was your mistake - having a big engine set up to race and not just going with ball bearing turbos right out of the box. That is why when I purchased mine I just opted upfront for the biggest baddest turbos Granatelli offered. Did you purchase your turbo kit from Granatelli? Or am I misspoken?

Last edited by sweasey; 05-28-2013 at 10:44 PM.
sweasey is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
gms crooks, granatelli sucks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.