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Old 12-21-2014, 02:50 AM   #1
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I decided on a Challenger

I've been weighing my choices between cars, and today I test drove a 2SS-1LE and an A8 Scat Pack Challenger.

The Challenger, while far from being a track/sports car, won for me overall. I love power, the interior, the style and it has much more room for my family.

I'm not a brand loyalist, and I greatly appreciate the friendly and helpful members here who answered all my questions about new Camaros.

Ironically I had tons of problems in the past with some of the forum members on challengertalk, but obviously getting the car I want trumps whatever online bad experiences I've had.

I'll probably still be around because I still like all American muscle, but once I buy my Challenger more time will be spend on Challenger related topics.

Thanks again everyone, and I hope the 2016 Camaro rocks! It's just way too long for me to wait to find out.

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Old 12-21-2014, 04:48 AM   #2
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Congrats on the buy. I love the look and ride of the challengers, and the interior just feels at home to me. Enjoy the new ride!
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:01 AM   #3
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Enjoy your new ride and thanks for your service.
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:37 AM   #4
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:54 AM   #5
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Congrats on a great purchase. It must have been a tough choice between the two, both have their strengths. If you read the other Scatpack thread here one just ran a 12:14 completely stock. Have fun and post some pictures. The reason I love this site is that for the most part the members here seem to appreciate cars regardless of brand.
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:59 AM   #6
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Congrats wish I had enough cash to own all of the great muscle cars out there.


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Old 12-21-2014, 08:22 AM   #7
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A point of clarification guys, I haven't bought it yet. I have 15K saved and another 26K-sh coming to me after the first, and then after that I'm pulling the trigger.

Maybe before that. I'm going to talk to USAA on Monday about delayed payments and whether I can get the loan now and give them a huge chunk toward the principle after the first.
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:52 AM   #8
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There's a few ZL1's out there also with some very good pricing right now.
With that kind of down payment you would be in real good shape. Good luck.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:12 AM   #9
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One thing about the Challengers is you don't see your self coming and going.

With 500,000 5th Gens....well...
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:31 AM   #10
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Nice car choice. You mentioned family and I think the Challenger has more backseat room. In my Camaro NOBODY sits behind me. I'm 6' and the seat has about 4" to the backseat (and there is no way my knee comes within 6+ inches of the key fob, anybody that does must be sitting with their chest in the steering wheel). I really liked the looks of the Challenger when it came out. But after the Camaro debuted it when to number 1. If there wasn't a Camaro, I would own the Challenger. But, the handling of the 1LE is awesome. BTW, kids out of the house so it is a two seater for me.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:33 AM   #11
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I've been weighing my choices between cars, and today I test drove a 2SS-1LE and an A8 Scat Pack Challenger.

The Challenger, while far from being a track/sports car, won for me overall. I love power, the interior, the style and it has much more room for my family.

I'm not a brand loyalist, and I greatly appreciate the friendly and helpful members here who answered all my questions about new Camaros.

Ironically I had tons of problems in the past with some of the forum members on challengertalk, but obviously getting the car I want trumps whatever online bad experiences I've had.

I'll probably still be around because I still like all American muscle, but once I buy my Challenger more time will be spend on Challenger related topics.

Thanks again everyone, and I hope the 2016 Camaro rocks! It's just way too long for me to wait to find out.

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I can't blame you. The Challenger is a great looking car and while it has some problems, so does a Camaro. I vastly prefer the Challenger's interior, myself, and as you mention that extra rooms helps the family.

I hope you post some pics. If I could have gotten a deal close to my 1SS on a Challenger, I might be driving a white Challenger with a 'KWLSKI' license plate.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:53 AM   #12
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you may want to check on the repair history on true delta of dodge products first.......... and think about if you want to mod the car in the future what pains it entails..... and think about things like if ...say a car has a iron block and aluminum heads now often one might have to take the valve covers off and retighten all the head bolts, etc... and well being a hemi head if it has basically couple little cams on top of the heads that operate the valves like old hemis..... just a few things to think about as iron and aluminum do expand and contract at different rates and head bolts tend to walk out eventually on iron block and aluminum head cars such as the srt8 hellcat ...I know I am a old hot rodder, and then you can check into the problems most challengers or other things like chargers have had happen. ANd from what I saw their track record is........ http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability not that they have the challenger on there..... as I guess not enough people joined like Zero , and yet enough I have read says dodge leads the pack in repair trips........ big time over chevy and yes ford too. http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/201...ss-Release.htm

SO good luck to you the new hemis are weirder than the old hemis...... can you say 16 spark plugs? weird the way they can make things change over time, and hope you do not have displacement on demand...... http://www.allpar.com/mopar/SRT-V8.html here read up some on hemi rods or hemiroids as we called them, there are many from the 5.7 in the r/t and stuff and they well..... all look like they are cast iron block and aluminum heads and heavy like the car. Not that I do not like the appearance of the challenger or the mustang, I just did a lot of homework to know I picked the right car for longevity, ease of build, and good looks, back seat not so much...but the same is said for the mustang, and well you don't want to get into building dual over head cammed expensive rubber band timed coyote dropping do yah? I didn't and being a old hot rodder think about it..... who made the most popular engines that were retrofitted to other brands........ who is still currently making the most popular engine being retrofitted into hotrods more than any other... the LS series is that just as the small and big bock chevys were and are...... Just putting in my ten cents, there is a reason Camaros have been so popular out selling the competition especially the challenger by so far.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:04 AM   #13
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:04 AM   #14
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Congrats. If the new Camaro doesn't blow me a way I think I see a chally in my future after I pay off the gen5.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:10 AM   #15
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Congrats. If the new Camaro doesn't blow me a way I think I see a chally in my future after I pay off the gen5.
I'm in the same boat. I'm looking to trade my Gen5 in here in 2 years. I hope the new Camaro blows me away otherwise I'm going to consider a Challenger.

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Old 12-21-2014, 11:36 AM   #16
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That was my other choice 2015 Challenger, I might have waited had I known the scat pack was going to be the 392 engine not just CAI and different tune like they were speculating. I dont think you can go wrong with either one. While very different they are both sweet cars.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:50 AM   #17
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Auto 8 with 485hp and more room = Fayetteville drag strip and easier to live with .
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6 speed manual, 426 hp and better handling = VIR.
My self I just really am liking the Chargers/Challengers as of lately.

But don't forget about the 20% off on Camaro's
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:08 PM   #18
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If you are picking on the interior alone, the Camaro loses every time. And if you need some space for folks in the back seat on a regular basis, the Fiat wins every time.

If you aren't really picking your car on 10/10ths performance, they are all pretty much equal for driving enjoyment. Push the right pedal down......smile. Push the left pedal......smile. Turn the wheel........smile. All the pony cars pretty much do that smile creation thing better than most other cars.

Just can't say it's an American car any more. Built in Canada, owned by the Italians.
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If you are picking on the interior alone, the Camaro loses every time. And if you need some space for folks in the back seat on a regular basis, the Fiat wins every time.

If you aren't really picking your car on 10/10ths performance, they are all pretty much equal for driving enjoyment. Push the right pedal down......smile. Push the left pedal......smile. Turn the wheel........smile. All the pony cars pretty much do that smile creation thing better than most other cars.

Just can't say it's an American car any more. Built in Canada, owned by the Italians.
Built on a Mercedes chassis
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:52 PM   #20
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Built on a Mercedes chassis
It's got that going for it. A nice leftover
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:25 PM   #21
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Great choice OP, Hav you thought about a Charger ScatPak? I might sell my Camaro and get a Scatpak, either a Chally or a Charger..

Pls post pic!!
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:20 PM   #22
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Thanks again everyone, and I hope the 2016 Camaro rocks! It's just way too long for me to wait to find out.

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Can't wait just ONE more month? Ok.. but you'll be back. I just know it. Enjoy your Chally. Someone has to.
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:12 PM   #23
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Can't wait just ONE more month? Ok.. but you'll be back. I just know it. Enjoy your Chally. Someone has to.
The 2016 Camaro is being released January 2015?
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:10 PM   #24
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I own both myself. A 2014 1SS/1LE & a 2014 R/T Classic Challenger. They are 2 completely different animals no doubt. I enjoy driving both cars but I think I like to drive the Challenger a little more , even though it in no way compares to the 1LE's handling. Both are fun though and you really can't go wrong with either..Good luck and post pics!!
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:05 PM   #25
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To say the Dodge engines are prone to breaking any more then the Chevy is crap show me any numbers that show Dodge 5.7, 392 have a failure rate that is much different than that of the Chevy. I have many friends with the RT and SRT and no issues.
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