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Old 05-23-2013, 07:28 AM   #101
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Not 100% GM related but...

Ford Australia announced they are shutting down operations in 2016. 1200 jobs lost.

Not a very promising sign for Holden.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:31 AM   #102
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:35 AM   #103
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Because Holden's seen a similar drop off in sales of Commodores as Ford did with Falcons. Basically the volume products aren't selling like they used to.

I think Holden's overall lineup is much stronger than Ford's but I know things are still up in the air.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:40 AM   #104
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Not 100% GM related but...

Ford Australia announced they are shutting down operations in 2016. 1200 jobs lost.

Not a very promising sign for Holden.
Damn, 1200 jobs. That really sucks. It's going to be a tough job market for those guys.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:00 AM   #105
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About 20k 2013 SRXs recalled for faulty lug nuts.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:37 PM   #106
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About 20k 2013 SRXs recalled for faulty lug nuts.
How in the world do you produce a faulty lug nut........ It's not a complicated device.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:47 PM   #107
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Because Holden's seen a similar drop off in sales of Commodores as Ford did with Falcons. Basically the volume products aren't selling like they used to.

I think Holden's overall lineup is much stronger than Ford's but I know things are still up in the air.
On the other hand ... without the Falcon, Commodore sales should increase. Much like how the Tacoma has seen an increase lately as the Ranger & Dakota ceased production.
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How in the world do you produce a faulty lug nut........ It's not a complicated device.
Murphys Law: if anything can go wrong, eventually it will.

As simple as a lug nut is, there are plenty of ways a car (or in this case, crossover) can end up with out of spec parts. Might have been a bad batch of steel (or the wrong type), one of the dies could have been wrong (nearest metric equivalent, for example) or been too worn out for proper tolerances, possibly some procedure relating to after treatment wasn't correctly followed (not sure if this applies to lug nuts, but it might). Could have been as simple as a bungling of the order. Specs require one type, yet you somehow receive another & nobody notices until the vehicles hit the road. I'm sure there are others, and all of them involve multiple steps of quality control to have failed. Its a pretty rare thing for any of that to happen, but thats why you hardly ever hear about lug nut recalls. Afterall, even if 99.999% of lug nuts are to spec when installed on a new vehicle, there are going to be about 20,000 or so that are wrong each year.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:11 PM   #110
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On the other hand ... without the Falcon, Commodore sales should increase. Much like how the Tacoma has seen an increase lately as the Ranger & Dakota ceased production.
Except Holden and Ford, particularly with Commodore and Falcon, are like Chevrolet and Ford with pickups here in the US. Nobody really switches over.

Probably what will happen is that Ford will introduce the Taurus into the Australian market to replace the Falcon. There will be a split in the Ford crowd over those who want a RWD full size sedan and those who want to stay with the brand.
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Except Holden and Ford, particularly with Commodore and Falcon, are like Chevrolet and Ford with pickups here in the US. Nobody really switches over.

Probably what will happen is that Ford will introduce the Taurus into the Australian market to replace the Falcon. There will be a split in the Ford crowd over those who want a RWD full size sedan and those who want to stay with the brand.
Of course, I didn't mean to imply that everyone would switch. But there might be enough that simply want those big RWD sedans to allow Holden to stagger along.
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:22 PM   #112
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Also not GM related, but the pissing match between Tesla and Chrysler is pretty amusing.
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:33 PM   #113
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Also not GM related, but the pissing match between Tesla and Chrysler is pretty amusing.
First time I'm hearing about this
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #114
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Tesla declared last night that they were the first US automaker to repay their DoE loans, but Chrysler said they were today. Tesla's CEO just told Chrysler that since they're owned by Fiat, they're not American anymore and that they actually still owe some money.

Which is kinda like Tesla calling Chrysler's mom fat.
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Hmm?
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Ohh. Yeah it's just a pissing match.
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How in the world do you produce a faulty lug nut........ It's not a complicated device.
The same way that Savini produces wheels that aren't round
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:59 AM   #124
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Two things regarding Chevrolet:

Cruze Diesel is now on sale.

2014 Chevrolet Impalas are spending an average of seven days in inventory before being sold.
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