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Old 05-18-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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pfadt coilover issues

Today i installed my pfadt coilovers literally by the book! After i finished and lowered the car to adjust the ride height, i set both front and back coilovers all the way down and worked my way up to the ride height i wanted. The only problem was that i didnt even touch the front coilovers which were bottomed out and they were still sitting way too high. Almost factory height! I installed everything while reading the instructions and everything went very smooth until I came across this problem. Dont know if its me that screwed up the install or what. please help me out
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:49 PM   #2
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Today i installed my pfadt coilovers literally by the book! After i finished and lowered the car to adjust the ride height, i set both front and back coilovers all the way down and worked my way up to the ride height i wanted. The only problem was that i didnt even touch the front coilovers which were bottomed out and they were still sitting way too high. Almost factory height! I installed everything while reading the instructions and everything went very smooth until I came across this problem. Dont know if its me that screwed up the install or what. please help me out
Which coil overs do you have?
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:02 PM   #3
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they are the street coilovers, not the drag ones
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:04 PM   #4
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:08 PM   #5
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Today i installed my pfadt coilovers literally by the book! After i finished and lowered the car to adjust the ride height, i set both front and back coilovers all the way down and worked my way up to the ride height i wanted. The only problem was that i didnt even touch the front coilovers which were bottomed out and they were still sitting way too high. Almost factory height! I installed everything while reading the instructions and everything went very smooth until I came across this problem. Dont know if its me that screwed up the install or what. please help me out
I have the brand new drag race specific coil overs. My chassis guy had a similar problem. The front spring was to hard and the rear was to soft. Pfadt offers me another spring package.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:19 PM   #7
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Supercharged ss was the problem solved after the new springs?
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Supercharged ss was the problem solved after the new springs?
Front spring is probably too tall maybe 10" instead of 8".
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:23 PM   #9
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Supercharged ss was the problem solved after the new springs?
Yes it was. It allowed the tech to adjust the ride height to what he wanted. The way we got them we also had both adjustments maxed out. The front was so bad it looked like it was pulling a wheelie not to mention you couldn't even push down on the nose. Pfadt knew what we wanted and sent them to us. It was only a 25lb difference in spring weight but it worked for us.
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Front spring is probably too tall maybe 10" instead of 8".
We got the same height springs. Just 25 lbs lighter in front and 25 lbs heavier in the rear.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:24 PM   #11
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looks awesome sorry you are having a problem. Keep us posted please I am thinking of getting these soon!
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:32 PM   #12
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Yes it was. It allowed the tech to adjust the ride height to what he wanted. The way we got them we also had both adjustments maxed out. The front was so bad it looked like it was pulling a wheelie not to mention you couldn't even push down on the nose. Pfadt knew what we wanted and sent them to us. It was only a 25lb difference in spring weight but it worked for us.
Same exact thing, im maxed out and it does look like its doing a wheelie. I emailed pfadt, hopefully they get back to me soon
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Same exact thing, im maxed out and it does look like its doing a wheelie. I emailed pfadt, hopefully they get back to me soon
That's weird though, I went from 225lbs on my Eibach kit to 325 lbs and it wasn't that much of a height difference.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:49 PM   #14
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wow glad i didnt but these yet seems like some kinks still need to get worked out.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:50 PM   #15
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Same exact thing, im maxed out and it does look like its doing a wheelie. I emailed pfadt, hopefully they get back to me soon

Blair or Arron are the guys helping us along the way. If call them on Monday. Either guy is awesome to deal with.


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That's weird though, I went from 225lbs on my Eibach kit to 325 lbs and it wasn't that much of a height difference.
The springs I'm using are actually Eibachs too. The 25lb was enough to get what the chassis guy wanted and still have adjustment left.

Now that hard part is getting it all to work together. Gone are the days if showing up, running a bunch of 10.0's then going home. It's like work right now!!
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #16
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I just received these exact coil overs. Do you guys happen to have the part numbers on these springs? The ones on mine are marked- front: Z/M P1396 rear: 57-193-104,9. I really don't want to put these on just to find that I have to swap out springs.
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I just received these exact coil overs. Do you guys happen to have the part numbers on these springs? The ones on mine are marked- front: Z/M P1396 rear: 57-193-104,9. I really don't want to put these on just to find that I have to swap out springs.
The springs we took off are up at my shop. I can prob check tomorrow.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:30 PM   #18
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I just received these exact coil overs. Do you guys happen to have the part numbers on these springs? The ones on mine are marked- front: Z/M P1396 rear: 57-193-104,9. I really don't want to put these on just to find that I have to swap out springs.
Yea i would hold off
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these are camaro specific i would think they would be right.....
something doesnt sound right..
Jamie you dont have the new feather light pfadt coilovers do u ?
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The springs we took off are up at my shop. I can prob check tomorrow.
Supercharged SS: You have a drag spring package that is trying to be dialed in, the OP has a normal "street-strip" spring package that is completely unrelated to what you are doing with your car.

I am sure the guys over at Pfadt can help you get this squared away. Have you rolled the car a few times after putting the coilovers on ? That will make a big difference to start with.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:58 AM   #21
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I wish I would have logged on over the weekend! I almost did just to check up on everyone, but I had too much work in the shop. EncoreCamaros, call me! 888-972-2464. Something definitely does not seem right here. These are highly engineered and have been tested through the roof! You should be able to slam the car, burn around corners, and have a beautiful ride. Supercharged SS has a drag package which is very vehicle/application specific and may require individual tuning, that is a completely different issue than what you are seeing. I will figure out what is happening and get you set up ASAP! Our products are our pride and joy, and if it isn't a problem with the install itself, you can rest assured I will do everything to make sure we take care of you.

I personally have not seen this issue, so lets take a closer look and find out what is going on
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:51 AM   #22
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I have some thoughts: I went and reviewed your build sheet and dyno results, everything is spot on. We build everything in house so the we have all the accountability, but also have full transparency on our work. I am wondering if the car just needs to settle? Any time you are lowering one of these Camaros, it should be driven around to make sure it all settles. That, or you can loosen the front arm bushing bolts and then re-torque them while its loaded, this will get it settled much quicker. Please give me a ring and let me know the actual before and after fender heights so I can better assist you.
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Also don't forget you need to time the bushings, that will help.
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Also don't forget you need to time the bushings, that will help.
Talked to Hunter this morning, the car has dropped significantly just by moving it around, I informed him to time the bushings and get back to me.

Guys, we put a lot of work into making sure these were perfect from the start. No need to worry about "tuning" or "fiddling" with spring rates/heights or any of that crap. You should be able to just put them on and have a spring rate and ride height that makes that car look amazing, ride smoothly, and blast around turns like you never imagined
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:02 PM   #25
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I have the first generation coilovers and had a similar issue. No problem from pfadt, I just wanted a slammed track ride height. They hooked me up with the GMPP spec springs and all is perfect.
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