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Old 05-19-2013, 10:35 PM   #76
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Haha thats not the best sales pitch. But that would explain why I haven't really heard of anything that did this.
I'd rather be honest and not make a sale, then be dishonest to make the sale

Still, not much will be truly dust repellant. One thing you can do to reduce static friction is to wipe down with any waterless wash. Doing so relieves built up static charge according to Mike Phillips.
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Haha thats not the best sales pitch. But that would explain why I haven't really heard of anything that did this.
I honestly don't think there's any real anti-dust products, water repellency yeah, which is just hydrophobic coatings that allow the water slide it off easier if it's a clean surface, rather than actual push water off (wouldn't that be sweet). Maybe in the future there will be anti-dust products.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:48 PM   #78
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I'd rather be honest and not make a sale, then be dishonest to make the sale

Still, not much will be truly dust repellant. One thing you can do to reduce static friction is to wipe down with any waterless wash. Doing so relieves built up static charge according to Mike Phillips.
And I very much appreciate that. It might be different if I was a mustang owner I'm sure...

Yeah, I wipe down with a cali duster and waterless wash a few times a week in between full washes and It's been working out great. It's just so annoying coming out to a dusty car every time. Someone needs to invent an anti dust force-field
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:43 AM   #79
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Just a note of thanks to all you guys. I started a complete detail on my 2003 Torreador Red F150 tonight as my trial run before the camaro. Washed and clayed so far, will continue with the process throughout the week. But the detailers here are a wealth of knowledge and I thank you for the info you all so willingly provide!

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I have a quick question! I'm getting my windshield replaced because I got about 3 rock chips that have turned into really big cracks. Is there any product that I could possibly put on to minimize the chance of rock chips? Any coating that might add protection or make the window slightly stronger? Anything I can do to help would be great.

Also, I think I'm going to take the plunge and do a ZL1 bumper swap. I'm highly considering doing a clear bra to protect it the best. Do you guys recommend it? And since it's getting painted, how long do I have to wait before I can clear bra it?
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:49 AM   #81
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Windshield protection I really don't know for that, there's not much you can add that will be stronger than glass.

I love my Xpel bra, I believe you may want to wait 30 days if it has to be corrected in any way, but I'm not positive. What I would do though, is take it to get the bra before you get the bumper on the car, it would insure no edges are shown plus probably a much easier fit for the installer. If you want a recommendation in San Antonio let me know.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:08 AM   #82
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It's really a societal problem at the core. We enjoyed so many years of prosperity that we decided our shit doesn't stink.
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We tell our kids they can do anything they want, we give trophies for participation, we use 'AP' courses to inflate GPAs, we curve grades so C students are now A students.... We celebrate mediocrity at every turn. As a result, everyone thinks they're too good for most jobs. Everyone wants to be CEO. In Asia, India, they celebrate the exceptional students and are realistic with the rest. As a result, they are staring us down in the rear view in education and are consistently the best students in our universities.
I'm all for encouraging children, but we have to stop telling everyone they can be an astronaut or whatever. It just holds back the gifted students because instructors always have to teach to the lowest student in the class. As such, you have the people who want to learn being bored to death and everyone graduates with a watered down education. I'm so disenchanted by the whole college experience. Maybe if I could have afforded a private school things would be different. But I just couldn't believe the people who were in the class and the questions they would ask. They should be raking leaves somewhere. Sorry if it's harsh, but I feel I just pissed away $30k for nothing.
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Haha that's a good one

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Windshield protection I really don't know for that, there's not much you can add that will be stronger than glass.

I love my Xpel bra, I believe you may want to wait 30 days if it has to be corrected in any way, but I'm not positive. What I would do though, is take it to get the bra before you get the bumper on the car, it would insure no edges are shown plus probably a much easier fit for the installer. If you want a recommendation in San Antonio let me know.
That's actually exactly what I was planning on doing. I want to get the bra put on before I even put the bumper on the car.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:30 AM   #86
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So what other stuff are you guys into?

Me: Golf, scotch, cigars, gym, barbecuing, Android, music, guitar
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So what other stuff are you guys into?

Me: Golf, scotch, cigars, gym, barbecuing, Android
BBQ is a favorite thing to do.
I've also always been fascinated by different types and ages of liquor a. I'm going to attended the bartending classes to pull out my license when I turn 21 in July.
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I've also always been fascinated by different types and ages of liquor a. I'm going to attended the bartending classes to pull out my license when I turn 21 in July.
I was a bartender for years at an upscale bistro/grill, if you have any questions I might be able to help somewhat. I never did any classes, just learned on the job.
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I was a bartender for years at an upscale bistro/grill, if you have any questions I might be able to help somewhat. I never did any classes, just learned on the job.
Wow really ? That's pretty awesome man. I'm hoping to possibly get hired for party's on the weekends. How is the pay for a place like you worked at ?
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Besides my car - Golf, working out and my son take up all my spare time. About a 8 handicap, what about u Matt?
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Work, Gym, Trail running, I worked in a running store for almost a year so got big into that, but mostly right now is work unfortunately. Getting ready for my 4th move in just over a year. I also fade in and out of playing games, right now it's been play once every 2-3 months. Then also investing, stocks, etc...
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Work, Gym, Trail running, I worked in a running store for almost a year so got big into that, but mostly right now is work unfortunately. Getting ready for my 4th move in just over a year. I also fade in and out of playing games, right now it's been play once every 2-3 months. Then also investing, stocks, etc...
Investing in stocks ? I'm actually going to start business classes to learn more.
Any pointers or sites that will help me get more info ?


Oh and I forgot to mention I love snowboarding. Hopefully going to Gatling burg this winter
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Wow really ? That's pretty awesome man. I'm hoping to possibly get hired for party's on the weekends. How is the pay for a place like you worked at ?
I got paid $5/hour plus tips. I could usually take home $100/night on a weeknight and $200 on a weekend night. Nice part is it wasn't a "bar" so I didn't have to deal with drunks, college kids, crazy ass drinks/shots, or staying til 2am. I poured scotch, made Manhattans, wine, and schmoozed with people who are still great connections today. One of them was on the board at my grad school and made a call, I got my acceptance letter the next day

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Besides my car - Golf, working out and my son take up all my spare time. About a 8 handicap, what about u Matt?
I play way too much golf. If I shoot a 75, I'm pissed. Never had a handicap established officially though.
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Any pointers or sites that will help me get more info ?


Oh and I forgot to mention I love snowboarding. Hopefully going to Gatling burg this winter
There's no such thing as "learning" about stocks. Over the long run, you'll either hit or miss, and on average you will trend with ETFs or indexes. Unless you know somebody with information on a new company or government contract, don't expect to make beaucoup bucks in the stock market, especially these days.

We kind of got screwed, we missed the tech boom and also missed the low commodity prices. If I had a time machine, I'd go back 15 years and buy ALL THE SILVER AND GOLD haha. Oh and that Google stock I heard something about
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I got paid $5/hour plus tips. I could usually take home $100/night on a weeknight and $200 on a weekend night. Nice part is it wasn't a "bar" so I didn't have to deal with drunks, college kids, crazy ass drinks/shots, or staying til 2am. I poured scotch, made Manhattans, wine, and schmoozed with people who are still great connections today. One of them was on the board at my grad school and made a call, I got my acceptance letter the next day



I play way too much golf. If I shoot a 75, I'm pissed. Never had a handicap established officially though.
I get pissed when I shoot 75 as well. Pissed when I wake up that is...
Wonder if moving up north will hurt the golf game with the insanely cold and long winters.
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I got paid $5/hour plus tips. I could usually take home $100/night on a weeknight and $200 on a weekend night. Nice part is it wasn't a "bar" so I didn't have to deal with drunks, college kids, crazy ass drinks/shots, or staying til 2am. I poured scotch, made Manhattans, wine, and schmoozed with people who are still great connections today. One of them was on the board at my grad school and made a call, I got my acceptance letter the next day.
Yeah I might aim to work at a higher end place opposed to working at party's. I never thought of it like that.

I've known a few bartenders that have met some really important people in their time. That's pretty awesome when you think about it. Oh and you Matt are a lucky son of a gun for knowing that guy

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There's no such thing as "learning" about stocks. Over the long run, you'll either hit or miss, and on average you will trend with ETFs or indexes. Unless you know somebody with information on a new company or government contract, don't expect to make beaucoup bucks in the stock market, especially these days.

We kind of got screwed, we missed the tech boom and also missed the low commodity prices. If I had a time machine, I'd go back 15 years and buy ALL THE SILVER AND GOLD haha. Oh and that Google stock I heard something about
Man, if I can turn back time.
So many missed opportunities. I was young so I can't blame my self haha.

Maybe as a bartender I can get to know some people that will come in handy for investing haha
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Any pointers or sites that will help me get more info ?


Oh and I forgot to mention I love snowboarding. Hopefully going to Gatling burg this winter
Do your research mainly, I'm a fan of doing all the research on my own, so yeah I take more risk in doing so but I also educate myself and gain a skill. I started roughly 2 years ago, almost. Motley Fool is a pretty good website. Take the risks you can, I tell anyone if you can't afford to lose it all in the stock market don't put it in. Personally I started with dividend funds (Ford/Intel, made close to 25% on those 2 overall, plus dividends at roughly 3-4% which is better than any money market/CD out there) That was the main reason for investing, I was looking at my checking account and steadily watched interest rates drop as the economy went down and just seems crazy not earn on money I'm not using.

For a safe bet I love Vanguard Mutual Funds, their Dividend fund closely matches the S&P which usually beats the market overall, as well as their Windsor II fund if well balanced, plus you can't beat their expense ratios.

You'll win and lose, I've had stocks go down 99% which I still hold since it's pointless to sell at this level, but I've also tripled money on a stock, recently I owned Power One (PWER) bought at $4, it was recently bought out for 6.50 a share. Sell when it's high, buy when it's low, I bought into Nike at a low point and have made almost 25% in just over a month. Now I don't have hundreds of thousands so it may appear miniscule but it's all a percentages game. I would love to do day trading once I safely have 10,000 in capital purely for that.

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There's no such thing as "learning" about stocks. Over the long run, you'll either hit or miss, and on average you will trend with ETFs or indexes. Unless you know somebody with information on a new company or government contract, don't expect to make beaucoup bucks in the stock market, especially these days.

We kind of got screwed, we missed the tech boom and also missed the low commodity prices. If I had a time machine, I'd go back 15 years and buy ALL THE SILVER AND GOLD haha. Oh and that Google stock I heard something about
Definitely, so don't buy into 3/5 year charts, 2007-early 2009 saw most stocks go down 20-50%, 2009-now have seen most go up 15-60%. So anyone who says they've made money the last 3 years is an idiot, why? Because anyone with money in the market with half a brain could have increased their money 50% plus in the last 3 years.

Mutual funds offer less risk but less reward, stocks are higher risk but high reward so keep it diversified. At most of our ages you can afford to be risky (within reason), but also save up for retirement, Lifetime funds which you put in your retirement year are great because the advisors shift the holdings less risky as you get closer. Unless you're lucky enough to have a matching retirement portfolio, then certainly do that first, me since I don't put money into my Roth.
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Do your research mainly, I'm a fan of doing all the research on my own, so yeah I take more risk in doing so but I also educate myself and gain a skill. I started roughly 2 years ago, almost. Motley Fool is a pretty good website. Take the risks you can, I tell anyone if you can't afford to lose it all in the stock market don't put it in. Personally I started with dividend funds (Ford/Intel, made close to 25% on those 2 overall, plus dividends at roughly 3-4% which is better than any money market/CD out there) That was the main reason for investing, I was looking at my checking account and steadily watched interest rates drop as the economy went down and just seems crazy not earn on money I'm not using.

For a safe bet I love Vanguard Mutual Funds, their Dividend fund closely matches the S&P which usually beats the market overall, as well as their Windsor II fund if well balanced, plus you can't beat their expense ratios.

You'll win and lose, I've had stocks go down 99% which I still hold since it's pointless to sell at this level, but I've also tripled money on a stock, recently I owned Power One (PWER) bought at $4, it was recently bought out for 6.50 a share. Sell when it's high, buy when it's low, I bought into Nike at a low point and have made almost 25% in just over a month. Now I don't have hundreds of thousands so it may appear miniscule but it's all a percentages game. I would love to do day trading once I safely have 10,000 in capital purely for that.



Definitely, so don't buy into 3/5 year charts, 2007-early 2009 saw most stocks go down 20-50%, 2009-now have seen most go up 15-60%. So anyone who says they've made money the last 3 years is an idiot, why? Because anyone with money in the market with half a brain could have increased their money 50% plus in the last 3 years.

Mutual funds offer less risk but less reward, stocks are higher risk but high reward so keep it diversified. At most of our ages you can afford to be risky (within reason), but also save up for retirement, Lifetime funds which you put in your retirement year are great because the advisors shift the holdings less risky as you get closer. Unless you're lucky enough to have a matching retirement portfolio, then certainly do that first, me since I don't put money into my Roth.
Great advice man. Thank you !
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Just found this thread, good stuff guys.

Been playing around in the stock market for a few years now, since 2008 actually. Did pretty well with a few stocks that had taken a major hit during all that september nonsense but also failed miserably on a few. Also through my job I have a 457 that I've been pouring money into for 6 years that overall has done very well. Being a government employee has SOME benefits lol

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