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Old 06-27-2009, 07:29 PM   #1
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Exclamation Urgent - How to drain/fill rear-end fluid

Okay - now don't take me for being dumb, I have changed many rear-end fluids on trucks before, easy, bottom plug drain, top plug fill. Problem is, this rear end doesn't look anything like them and there are so many bolts in various locations I am not sure which is the drain and which is the fill, please help - I am trying to get this done before going on a cruise with a bunch of friends tonight.

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Old 06-27-2009, 07:31 PM   #2
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Are you swapping the fluid? Like with a red line fluid?
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:33 PM   #3
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Are you swapping the fluid? Like with a red line fluid?
I am changing out the current fluid with Mobil 1 75W-90 as recommended by the manual at 1500 miles if planning on racing the car. So I just need to drain the existing fluid then put the new fluid in.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:43 PM   #4
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Hmm, I didn't notice that in the manual. Good to know. Make sure I'll get that done with my first oil change.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:45 PM   #5
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Hmm, I didn't notice that in the manual. Good to know. Make sure I'll get that done with my first oil change.
Yea, it is under the "break-in" section
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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as recommended by the manual ... if planning on racing the car.
Wow, that's cool. I wonder how they define "racing", and whether if you do in fact track the car and something blows up, they'll still fix it as long as you did what the manual told you to do.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:38 AM   #7
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I was apparently blind - two plugs are located on passenger side. They use a 3/8" socket. Amazingly they are magnetic plugs, had some shavings on them but not much - all is changed and ready to go
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:35 PM   #8
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The manual says you need to use GM fluid (new criteria) with LSD additive...

Did you check into that? Just a heads up
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:29 PM   #9
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Kind of off topic, but does the manual say anything about flushing out the rear end for just normal use?
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:49 PM   #10
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You don't flush gearboxes unless your rebuilding. Just change fluid as scheduled.
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:57 PM   #11
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You don't flush gearboxes unless your rebuilding. Just change fluid as scheduled.
I'm pretty sure that is what he meant. He just wanted to know for normal use should you change the fluid.
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:59 PM   #12
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so, what you guys think is the best gear oil? Royal Purple, Amsoil, Mobil 1, Red line, or get the stock stuff with the additive?

Also whats the recommended weight?
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:13 PM   #13
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The manual says you need to use GM fluid (new criteria) with LSD additive...

Did you check into that? Just a heads up
I am pretty sure Mobil 1 is acceptable - this is directly off of the label on the back:

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Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lubricant LS is a race proven fully synthetic product that outperforms conventional, extreme-pressure type gear lubricants in both conventional and limited slip applications and helps provide:

- Outstanding protection of hybrid differentials where an API GL-5 quality 75W-90 oil is recommended

- Minimal wear and spalling under high-speed, high-torque and high-horsepower conditions.

- Exceptional resistance to oil breakdown from heat and extended high-speed operation.

- Outstanding cold temperature performance.

- Gear shifting ease and reduction of chatter.

- Excellent durability for towing and heavy loads.

- Less friction which helps to lower operating temperatures.

Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lubricant LS 75W-90 exceeds the performance requirements of API Service GL-5.
I did however send Mobil 1 an e-mail asking to verify, we will see what they say.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:14 PM   #14
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so, what you guys think is the best gear oil? Royal Purple, Amsoil, Mobil 1, Red line, or get the stock stuff with the additive?

Also whats the recommended weight?
I go Mobil 1 for everything, recommended weight is 75W-90
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:18 PM   #15
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Kind of off topic, but does the manual say anything about flushing out the rear end for just normal use?
As Vash said - you only flush when rebuilding or changing something in the rear-end. Just switching out is all that is needed otherwise. And actually as the manual states on page 8-17:

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Should the vehicle be used for racing or competitive driving (after break-in), the rear axle lubricant must be replaced beforehand.
So if you just plan on driving it and not having any fun, you don't need to change it - however if you are like almost everyone on this forum, you are going to want to see what she's got and prove it - so change the fluid
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As Vash said - you only flush when rebuilding or changing something in the rear-end. Just switching out is all that is needed otherwise. And actually as the manual states on page 8-17:



So if you just plan on driving it and not having any fun, you don't need to change it - however if you are like almost everyone on this forum, you are going to want to see what she's got and prove it - so change the fluid

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:09 AM   #17
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Mobil 1 got back to me and They said that it would not work and to pick up the stuff from my local dealer Anyway, I know what I am doing today, changing it out again
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:21 AM   #18
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Alright guys - so I brought a copy of the rear-axle fluid page from my manual to my local chevy dealer and asked them for that fluid.

They handed me 75W-90 Mobil 1 LS same exact stuff I put in. The only difference is it cost 35.80 rather than 10.25 from advance auto. Then they handed me this little bottle of Limited Slip Additive - they said I really don't need to put it in with the Mobil 1 but I said I wanted it anyway.

So there you have it - your dealer is going to put Mobil 1 in the rear and maybe put the additive in.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:26 PM   #19
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Just an FYI. On my 4th gen Z28 I had the rear end diff. fluid changed. My manual also states to use the additive. However the dealer put in Royal Purple and told me the additive wasn't necessary with RP. The differential has been fine, no noise or whining.
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Just an FYI. On my 4th gen Z28 I had the rear end diff. fluid changed. My manual also states to use the additive. However the dealer put in Royal Purple and told me the additive wasn't necessary with RP. The differential has been fine, no noise or whining.
Good to know, thanks!
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Weird that they sold you Mobil 1 instead of the part number listed in the owner's manual.

I took the part numbers from the manual, purchased that- and got GM brand rear end fluid and I also got the additive.
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Ok, thanks
Just wondering what your allocation# is from your dealer????
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:17 PM   #23
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i'll probably replace mine when i do my 1st oil change. what do you guys recommend??
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i'll probably replace mine when i do my 1st oil change. what do you guys recommend??

That is what I was thinking....maybe in the 1300-1400 mile mark....I need to find out how much they will charge to do the rear end fluid flush and fill.....the first oil change is free though. I hope they don't mind me handing them my K&N oil filter I purchased this week for it
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A rear diff fluid change is probably about $50 for labor. there is no such thing as a flush for a rear end, just a fluid change. I dont even think there is a rear cover on these as it is made by getrag. The GM fluid probably already has the additive in it and I recommend GM fluid for everything on your car, except motor oil (i run mobile). It is designed for your cars specific application. Also, some dealers dont always use gm fluids (the dealer i work for is guilty of this), so be sure to ask for it. Granted, on your Camaro, I'm sure they will, but its something to be aware of.
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